Kim jong il should see the end of Gadaffi

[crazybear]

Libya's dictator Gadaffi who was called a mad dog of the Middle East was dead and it's civil war also ended. People are wondering who will be the next victim. Bashar al-Assad (the president of Syria) and Ali Abdullah Saleh (the president of yemen) are expected now. Among them, North Korea's Kim jong il, His name is being highly regarded. There is something wrong with Kim jong il's government like Gadaffi's. He has carried out public executions and compulsory labor & abortion. Especially it's prison camps called euphemistically "reducation camps" have detained about 200,000 people. Besides, After the midst of 1990s, About 2 million people were dead of severe starvation. I think that Gadaffi's death will be a trigger for liberalization to many other autocratic states. I'm sure that Kim's dynasty also won't last long.

 

[Unkotare]

Hard to compare

 

[waltky]

Might not be a bad idea for Assad of Syria to sit up and take notice too.

 

[JoeB131]

But here's the problem. No one really wants to see Kim Jong Il toppled.

That is why Japan, China, the US and South Korea spend billions every year propping up his economy and sending them tons of free food. Because if the government of North Korea collapsed, there would be chaos. Millions of refugees would pour into China and South Korea.

Korean Unificiation would be a horrible thing because there is such a huge disparity between North Korea and South Korea in terms of economics, infrastructure. To the point where North Koreans are physically smaller than South Koreans because they've all grown up malnourished.

 

[KissMy]

I'm sure that Kim's dynasty also won't last long.

Great prediction!

Saddam = Gone
Ben Ali = Gone
Mubarak = Gone
Bin Ladin = Gone
Gaddafi = Gone
Kim Jong Il = Gone
Ahmadinejad = Still Waiting
Chavez = Still Waiting

 

[occupied]

Not sure we have ever seen a country so heavily indoctrinated as N Korea. Even as horribly as Kim treated his people, right now they are weeping in the streets, their mourning will be long and terrible. There will be no uprising there, they have been thoroughly inoculated against revolution.

 

[KissMy]

Not sure we have ever seen a country so heavily indoctrinated as N Korea. Even as horribly as Kim treated his people, right now they are weeping in the streets, their mourning will be long and terrible. There will be no uprising there, they have been thoroughly inoculated against revolution.

Never count out the hidden underground resistance. Just wait until Face-Book & Twitter opens their eyes. Big business is licking their chops to exploit this source of cheap labor. Once the boarders open, information will flood into this dark country.

 

[Unkotare]

You think a lot of people in North Korea are on facebook and twitter? Really?...

 

[Unkotare]

I'm sure that Kim's dynasty also won't last long.

Great prediction!

Saddam = Gone
Ben Ali = Gone
Mubarak = Gone
Bin Ladin = Gone
Gaddafi = Gone
Kim Jong Il = Gone
Ahmadinejad = Still Waiting
Chavez = Still Waiting

Not a great prediction yet. He said, "dynasty," remember?

 

[KissMy]

You think a lot of people in North Korea are on facebook and twitter? Really?...

Not now, but maybe soon under the new leader. He was schooled in Switzerland & may have been influenced differently than his father.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

You think a lot of people in North Korea are on facebook and twitter? Really?...

Not now, but maybe soon under the new leader. He was schooled in Switzerland & may have been influenced differently than his father.

It's lookin' like he recognizes that the Obama Admin has similarities to the Clinton Admin, as-far-as trustworthiness goes.....​

February 29, 2012

North Korea/Nuclear Activities​

"North Korea has agreed to halt nuclear tests, long-range missile launches and enrichment activities at its Yongbyon nuclear complex in exchange for food aid from the United States, the State Department said Wednesday.

The state-run North Korean news agency, KCNA, announced the agreement separately.

"Today's announcement represents a modest first step in the right direction. We, of course, will be watching closely and judging North Korea's new leaders by their actions," Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Wednesday before the House Appropriations Committee.

In return for the moratorium on nuclear activities at this key site, the United States has agreed to finalize a package of 240,000 metric tons of nutritional assistance to North Korea. There will be intensive monitoring to assure that the delivery is made to those in need and not diverted to the military or government elites, State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said in a statement."

Maybe, now (even) the Teabaggers will get an education on how.....

Lil' Dumbya DROPPED-THE-BALL

"But then along came Jimmy. In June 1994, former President Carter went to North Korea to negotiate with Kim Il Sung, president of North Korea. These negotiations were a great success. North Korea committed to freezing its plutonium weapons program in exchange for two proliferation-resistant nuclear reactors and other aid. As President Carter explained,

Responding to a standing invitation from North Korean President Kim Il Sung and with the approval of President Bill Clinton, I went to Pyongyang and helped to secure an agreement that North Korea would cease its nuclear program at Yongbyon and permit I.A.E.A. inspectors to return to the site to assure that the spent fuel was not reprocessed. In return, the United States and our allies subsequently assured the North Koreans that there would be no nuclear threat to them, that a supply of fuel oil would be provided to replace the power lost by terminating the Yongbyon nuclear program and that two modern nuclear plants would also be provided, with their fuel supplies to be monitored by international inspectors. [Carter, "Engaging North Korea," The New York Times, October 27, 2002]

And, in spite of what the righties will tell you, the North Koreans kept this agreement. The plutonium processing at Yongbyon and elsewhere stopped, and IAEA inspectors were allowed back into North Korea. The plutonium processors were sealed with IAEA seals.

Kim Dae Jung came to Washington in March 2001 to pay respects to the new U.S. President Bush and ask for his support for the Sunshine Policy. And what happened?

Bush dissed him, that's what. The arrogant little twerp snubbed a Nobel Prize winner and friend to America. And when word of the snub reached North Korea, the "Sunshine Policy" died.

The late, great Mary McGrory wrote:

We should perhaps remember that President Bush has never liked talking to Koreans. His first overseas visitor was the estimable Kim Dae Jung, whom Bush snubbed.

Bush, as he was eager to demonstrate, was not a fan. Kim's sin? He was instituting a sunshine policy with the North, ending a half-century of estrangement. Bush, who looked upon North Korea as the most potent argument for his obsession to build a national missile defense, saw Kim, a Nobel Peace Prize winner, as nothing but trouble. He sent him home humiliated and empty-handed. [McGrory, "Bush's Moonshine Policy," The Washington Post, December 29, 2002; emphasis added].

As a reaction to Bush's unexpected hard-line stance, North Korea cancelled scheduled reconciliation talks with South Korea."
​

 

[Claudette]

I doubt the people of NK will rise up against their new "Dear Leader."

The people have been beaten down for decades and are starving so if the new "Dear Leader" goes it will be because his own military gets rid of him.

 

[zzzz]

North Korea is an entirely different animal than the middle east. The military there has an iron fist that will never relinquish control and the people are brainwashed from birth to accept this.

I can see Assad toppling this summer and the King of Jordan is troubled too, even though he has been making changes.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I'm sure that Kim's dynasty also won't last long.

Great prediction!

Saddam = Gone
Ben Ali = Gone
Mubarak = Gone
Bin Ladin = Gone
Gaddafi = Gone
Kim Jong Il = Gone
Ahmadinejad = Still Waiting
Chavez = Still Waiting

Interesting list.

The ONE we got rid of during the Bush debacle cost us how many TRILLIONS of DOLLARS, thousands of American lives and hundreds of thousands of innocent civilian lives in an unwarranted and illegal attack on an innocent people.

President Obama got rid of bin Laden, al-Awaki, Gaddafi, countless Taliban and al-Qeada leaders with NO loss of American life and for very little money.

Three of the current four occupants of the Candidate Clown Car have said they would start new wars, thus guaranteeing more dead Americans and more debt and more countries to "rebuild". Idiot Mittens wants to enlarge the military even though it is bigger than the next thirteen!

Why not do it Obama's way and use all that money (and people) to rebuild our own country, as he has said he wants us to?