Kim Davis...and the Judge's "mistake"

[nat4900]

Of course, the federal judge who ruled that Davis' was in breach of her position description duties did the right thing.....but in placing her in lock-up, rather than imposing a heavy daily fine was somewhat of a mistake.

I understand that the ruling was based on the fact that if simply a fine was imposed, that Davis would be out of jail and her supporters would be paying the fine.....although I understand that such would have happened, I disagree with what the ultimate impact would have been. For example:

Davis NOT being in jail would have prevented the charlatans like Huckabee in trying to garner some "support" by visiting Davis in jail.,,,,and, even more importantly,

had the fine been $10,000 per day, I am sure that a few days would have been picked up by Davis' supporters....but keep asking those supporters to constantly dig into their pockets for more and more funds to keep Davis "free", and the true LOYALTY and CONVICTION of evangelicals would have been better tested.

 

[bodecea]

Of course, the federal judge who ruled that Davis' was in breach of her position description duties did the right thing.....but in placing her in lock-up, rather than imposing a heavy daily fine was somewhat of a mistake.

I understand that the ruling was based on the fact that if simply a fine was imposed, that Davis would be out of jail and her supporters would be paying the fine.....although I understand that such would have happened, I disagree with what the ultimate impact would have been. For example:

Davis NOT being in jail would have prevented the charlatans like Huckabee in trying to garner some "support" by visiting Davis in jail.,,,,and, even more importantly,

had the fine been $10,000 per day, I am sure that a few days would have been picked up by Davis' supporters....but keep asking those supporters to constantly dig into their pockets for more and more funds to keep Davis "free", and the true LOYALTY and CONVICTION of evangelicals would have been better tested.

In about 2 months it will be "Kim Who?"

 

[Stephanie]

People better start waking up to what is going on. They came for Kim Davis and you said Nothing. well you know the rest of that saying

SNIP:
The federal judge who threw Christian clerk Kim Davis in jail previously “oversaw a legal settlement that included anti-harassment sessions” for students in Boyd County, Kentucky, The New York Times
reports. In fact, the judge, David Bunning, had denied free speech rights to those students.

The so-called “anti-harassment sessions” in the Boyd County case were actually designed to instruct students “to withhold Christian viewpoints about homosexual behavior,” the Alliance Defense Fund (ADF), the legal group representing the students, reported.

Bunning’s ruling against the students, a direct ban on free speech, was overturned on appeal.

The Times admitted this fact only later in the story, noting that Bunning’s ruling forcing students into the “anti-harassment sessions” was “overruled by an appellate court.”

The fact that he “was overruled by an appellate case” demonstrates how wrong his ruling was.

It is this out-of-control judge who is at the center of the Kim Davis case. Ironically, the media are reporting that Bunning is a Christian. If so, he has no fundamental understanding of how Christians helped create this nation, and are entitled to the rights and liberties guaranteed to them under the Constitution.

The Times’ handling of this case reflects how the actions of Davis have also been distorted by most of the media. The Times said Bunning sent Davis to jail for “refusing to issue same-sex marriage licenses.” In fact, she had simply exercised her religious rights and liberties in refusing to sign the gay marriage licenses.

Her attorneys at Liberty Counsel noted, “Davis only asked that the Kentucky marriage license forms be changed so her name would not appear on them.” This simple request was deemed to be “contempt” and she was thrown in jail.


Pattern of discrimination against Christians
What we see in the case of Judge Bunning, under pressure from the gay lobby, is a pattern of discrimination against Christians, a pattern we also see in the coverage of the cases in which he has ruled. The media have refused to respect the rights of free speech and freedom of religion that Americans are supposed to have under the Constitution.

A rally in support of county clerk Kim Davis has been announced for Tuesday, September 8, at the Carter County Detention Center in Grayson, Kentucky at 3:00 p.m. The address is 13 Crossbar Road, Grayson, Kentucky.

Heather Clark of the Christian News Network first noted that Bunning, appointed to the federal bench by President George W. Bush, had, in the Boyd County case, “ordered Kentucky students to be re-educated about homosexuality despite their objections.”

In the case, she noted, a number of students objected to being forced to watch a video that asserted that it is wrong to oppose homosexuality and that a person’s sexuality cannot be changed. Clark reported, “They discovered that they could not opt-out of the training without being penalized, and contacted the legal organization Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF) for assistance.”

That began the process of filing suit, and eventually the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals overturned Bunning’s ruling in October 2007.

Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee has sided with Davis, saying she not only has the right to object on religious grounds to signing gay marriage licenses, but that the Supreme Court did not in any sense make gay marriage the “law of the land.”

Numerous experts have pointed out that, under the U.S. Constitution, the Supreme Court cannot make law. The Supreme Court’s “power to offer opinion does not equal the power to make law,” notes the Tenth Amendment Center. Generally speaking, experts say, the Supreme Court can overturn laws and executive actions but it cannot enforce its rulings. The power to make law is given to the representatives of the people in the national and state legislatures.

‘Under what law am I authorized to issue homosexual couples a marriage license?’



Huckabee says Davis, a county official elected as a Democrat, should be immediately released from federal custody. “Exercising religious liberty should never be a crime in America,” he says. “This is a direct attack on our God-given, constitutional rights.”

all of it here:
Anti-Christian Bigotry on the Bench and in the Media

 

[bodecea]

I believe that Catholic judge would be surprised to be called anti-christian.

 

[frigidweirdo]

They came for someone who was clearly being anti-constitutional. SHOCKING. I think most people would have less worries of the govt coming for.... the government (as she represents the govt) than when it goes after people like Leonard Peltier, been in solitary for like 35 years or more because he has something to say the US govt didn't like.

 

[Stephanie]

the post was barley up and in comes the clowns.

 

[bodecea]

the post was barley up and in comes the clowns.

"Barley up"

 

[Stephanie]

They came for someone who was clearly being anti-constitutional. SHOCKING. I think most people would have less worries of the govt coming for.... the government (as she represents the govt) than when it goes after people like Leonard Peltier, been in solitary for like 35 years or more because he has something to say the US govt didn't like.

really? I guess you have proof about her being ANTI-constitutional;
from the article:
Numerous experts have pointed out that, under the U.S. Constitution, the Supreme Court cannot make law. The Supreme Court’s “power to offer opinion does not equal the power to make law,” notes the Tenth Amendment Center. Generally speaking, experts say, the Supreme Court can overturn laws and executive actions but it cannot enforce its rulings. The power to make law is given to the representatives of the people in the national and state legislatures.

I doubt you read the whole article because you were in here before it was barley up

 

[NYcarbineer]

Of course, the federal judge who ruled that Davis' was in breach of her position description duties did the right thing.....but in placing her in lock-up, rather than imposing a heavy daily fine was somewhat of a mistake.

I understand that the ruling was based on the fact that if simply a fine was imposed, that Davis would be out of jail and her supporters would be paying the fine.....although I understand that such would have happened, I disagree with what the ultimate impact would have been. For example:

Davis NOT being in jail would have prevented the charlatans like Huckabee in trying to garner some "support" by visiting Davis in jail.,,,,and, even more importantly,

had the fine been $10,000 per day, I am sure that a few days would have been picked up by Davis' supporters....but keep asking those supporters to constantly dig into their pockets for more and more funds to keep Davis "free", and the true LOYALTY and CONVICTION of evangelicals would have been better tested.

In about 2 months it will be "Kim Who?"

You mean like the pizzeria people? ...what's his name and what's her name...

 

[007]

I believe that Catholic judge would be surprised to be called anti-christian.

OK, then I'll call him a heterophobic bigot.

 

[TheOldSchool]

the post was barley up and in comes the clowns.

The thread had a clown from the very first post.

 

[bodecea]

I believe that Catholic judge would be surprised to be called anti-christian.

OK, then I'll call him a heterophobic bigot.

A heterophobic bigot? Where do you get that?

 

[JimBowie1958]

I believe that Catholic judge would be surprised to be called anti-christian.

You believe wrong. So-called Catholic clergy and professionals have a great number who are Catholic in name only.

But then you don't really think anyway, so who am I kidding?

 

[bodecea]

the post was barley up and in comes the clowns.

The thread had a clown from the very first post.

With barley, no less.

 

[bodecea]

I believe that Catholic judge would be surprised to be called anti-christian.

You believe wrong. So-called Catholic clergy and professionals have a great number who are Catholic in name only.

But then you don't really think anyway, so who am I kidding?

Ah...there it is...he's "not really a Catholic/Christian" because he didn't do what you wanted. More of that christian sharia support.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

I believe that Catholic judge would be surprised to be called anti-christian.

The Bunning family — including Jim Bunning’s nine children — is a prominent one, not just in the state of Kentucky, but among conservative Republicans.

But throughout Davis’s months-long legal battle, David Bunning has made it clear that he knew his decision to force the Rowan County clerk to follow the law put him at odds with the deeply held personal beliefs of a lot of Americans, himself included.

“Our form of government will not survive unless we, as a society, agree to respect the U.S. Supreme Court’s decisions, regardless of our personal opinions,”
‘He has guts': David Bunning, the same-sex marriage decision’s unlikely enforcer

 

[JimBowie1958]

the post was barley up and in comes the clowns.

The thread had a clown from the very first post.

You were reading it from the first second it was up?

You are the only clown here not in make up on his avatar, dude.

 

[JimBowie1958]

I believe that Catholic judge would be surprised to be called anti-christian.

The Bunning family — including Jim Bunning’s nine children — is a prominent one, not just in the state of Kentucky, but among conservative Republicans.

But throughout Davis’s months-long legal battle, David Bunning has made it clear that he knew his decision to force the Rowan County clerk to follow the law put him at odds with the deeply held personal beliefs of a lot of Americans, himself included.

“Our form of government will not survive unless we, as a society, agree to respect the U.S. Supreme Court’s decisions, regardless of our personal opinions,”
‘He has guts': David Bunning, the same-sex marriage decision’s unlikely enforcer

This guy is a gay advocate who already got hammered by an appellate court for trying to silence free speech against homosexuals.

You are such a serial liar.

 

[JimBowie1958]

They came for someone who was clearly being anti-constitutional. .

What is anti-constitutional about Davis requesting her name be removed from the fagot marriage certificates?

Would seem to be a reasonable accommodation. I think I would rather go to jail too than sign that shit.

 

[Seawytch]

Of course, the federal judge who ruled that Davis' was in breach of her position description duties did the right thing.....but in placing her in lock-up, rather than imposing a heavy daily fine was somewhat of a mistake.

I understand that the ruling was based on the fact that if simply a fine was imposed, that Davis would be out of jail and her supporters would be paying the fine.....although I understand that such would have happened, I disagree with what the ultimate impact would have been. For example:

Davis NOT being in jail would have prevented the charlatans like Huckabee in trying to garner some "support" by visiting Davis in jail.,,,,and, even more importantly,

had the fine been $10,000 per day, I am sure that a few days would have been picked up by Davis' supporters....but keep asking those supporters to constantly dig into their pockets for more and more funds to keep Davis "free", and the true LOYALTY and CONVICTION of evangelicals would have been better tested.

That gives them a "cause" and makes it about more than her just refusing to do her job.