Killing The ACA

[francoHFW]

^^ The perfect bigoted hater dupe....Reaganism at itsfinest. Mario Cuomo: "Reagan made it acceptable to blame the poor"...a disgrace.

 

[francoHFW]

I find it ironic that we have "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance and "In God We Trust" on this country's money. Yet, we don't practice what the Word of God tells us.

"If among you, one of your brothers should become poor, in any of your towns within your land that the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart or shut your hand against your poor brother, but you shall open your hand to him and lend him sufficient for his need, whatever it may be. Take care lest there be an unworthy thought in your heart and you say, ‘The seventh year, the year of release is near,’ and your eye look grudgingly on your poor brother, and you give him nothing, and he cry to the Lord against you, and you be guilty of sin. You shall give to him freely, and your heart shall not be grudging when you give to him, because for this the Lord your God will bless you in all your work and in all that you undertake. For there will never cease to be poor in the land. Therefore I command you, ‘You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor, in your land "-
Deuteronomy 15:7-11

There are many versus in the Bible that are along the same lines and thoughts as the scripture above..
Here we are the wealthiest country in the world. Here we are a country that is God based, yet we are the only wealthy country in the world that heathcare is not a right.
It seems commonplace, that a thread or post claims the other side is anti-Christian. Typically those It who post such trash are the same ones who deny the opportunity of healthcare to our poor, weak and elderly. These are also the same people who call the Pope a socialist/communist for repeating what is in the Bible. The sad irony of this country, is it doesn't practice what it preaches. No our theme is, "what's mine is mine and the hell with anybody else".

Where does the word of God tell us that one person should dictate to another who they should help? You ASSume that if I oppose a government program that I don't help others. Your problem is you define greedy and selfish as someone who doesn't help another person the way and to the level you think they should.

Your verses from Deuteronomy above say "You shall give to him freely". In other words, because you choose to do so. What you support is a mandate from the taker not a willful act by the giver.

Who is denying the poor, weak, and elderly the opportunity of healthcare? If you say it's because we oppose things like Obamacare, you damn sure don't understand the concept of opportunity. I am for anyone and everyone having healthcare. What I'm not for is you demanding I pay for it on their behalf. Me saying no doesn't deny them the opportunity just like you saying no if I demand you buy me a new car doesn't deny that to me.

If the Pope adheres to what would be considered socialist ideas, that makes him one. Apparently you have a problem with a duck being called a duck. I find it interesting how you chastise people like me and use phrases like "what's mine is mine and the hell with anybody else" yet are perfectly OK with someone saying "I don't have what you have so yours is mine and if you don't give it to me willingly, I'll find someone in government to force you to do so". No deserves what another person earned unless the one that earned it willingly gives it to them. That's along the lines of what the Bible says not how you've twisted it. In other words, I don't owe you or anyone else shit in life.

Except no one says that lol, and it's pure Pubcrappe, for hater dupes only. ACA saves everyone monet, especially in the long run, and saves lives and helps so many.

What it does it gives a piece of shit like you something at the expense of someone else.

I had healthcare coverage before Obamacare. How does it help me? If you want to save someone's life that didn't have coverage, you didn't need Obamacare to do that. All you had to do was be a man and find those that didn't then pay for it yourself. No government involvement was necessary for that to ever take place. You're the kind that if you need something, you'd do without before I'd ever give you a damn thing.

Already, you are getting better coverage at the same cost and will soon save. Think, functional pinhead! Get everyone health care AND SAVE MONEY. Jeezus- get people off welfare and contributing. Jeebus what a selfish idiot- just like your megarich Pub heroes...

 

[Conservative65]

I find it ironic that we have "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance and "In God We Trust" on this country's money. Yet, we don't practice what the Word of God tells us.

"If among you, one of your brothers should become poor, in any of your towns within your land that the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart or shut your hand against your poor brother, but you shall open your hand to him and lend him sufficient for his need, whatever it may be. Take care lest there be an unworthy thought in your heart and you say, ‘The seventh year, the year of release is near,’ and your eye look grudgingly on your poor brother, and you give him nothing, and he cry to the Lord against you, and you be guilty of sin. You shall give to him freely, and your heart shall not be grudging when you give to him, because for this the Lord your God will bless you in all your work and in all that you undertake. For there will never cease to be poor in the land. Therefore I command you, ‘You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor, in your land "-
Deuteronomy 15:7-11

There are many versus in the Bible that are along the same lines and thoughts as the scripture above..
Here we are the wealthiest country in the world. Here we are a country that is God based, yet we are the only wealthy country in the world that heathcare is not a right.
It seems commonplace, that a thread or post claims the other side is anti-Christian. Typically those It who post such trash are the same ones who deny the opportunity of healthcare to our poor, weak and elderly. These are also the same people who call the Pope a socialist/communist for repeating what is in the Bible. The sad irony of this country, is it doesn't practice what it preaches. No our theme is, "what's mine is mine and the hell with anybody else".

Where does the word of God tell us that one person should dictate to another who they should help? You ASSume that if I oppose a government program that I don't help others. Your problem is you define greedy and selfish as someone who doesn't help another person the way and to the level you think they should.

Your verses from Deuteronomy above say "You shall give to him freely". In other words, because you choose to do so. What you support is a mandate from the taker not a willful act by the giver.

Who is denying the poor, weak, and elderly the opportunity of healthcare? If you say it's because we oppose things like Obamacare, you damn sure don't understand the concept of opportunity. I am for anyone and everyone having healthcare. What I'm not for is you demanding I pay for it on their behalf. Me saying no doesn't deny them the opportunity just like you saying no if I demand you buy me a new car doesn't deny that to me.

If the Pope adheres to what would be considered socialist ideas, that makes him one. Apparently you have a problem with a duck being called a duck. I find it interesting how you chastise people like me and use phrases like "what's mine is mine and the hell with anybody else" yet are perfectly OK with someone saying "I don't have what you have so yours is mine and if you don't give it to me willingly, I'll find someone in government to force you to do so". No deserves what another person earned unless the one that earned it willingly gives it to them. That's along the lines of what the Bible says not how you've twisted it. In other words, I don't owe you or anyone else shit in life.

Except no one says that lol, and it's pure Pubcrappe, for hater dupes only. ACA saves everyone monet, especially in the long run, and saves lives and helps so many.

What it does it gives a piece of shit like you something at the expense of someone else.

I had healthcare coverage before Obamacare. How does it help me? If you want to save someone's life that didn't have coverage, you didn't need Obamacare to do that. All you had to do was be a man and find those that didn't then pay for it yourself. No government involvement was necessary for that to ever take place. You're the kind that if you need something, you'd do without before I'd ever give you a damn thing.

Already, you are getting better coverage at the same cost and will soon save. Think, functional pinhead! Get everyone health care AND SAVE MONEY. Jeezus- get people off welfare and contributing. Jeebus what a selfish idiot- just like your megarich Pub heroes...

How about those who don't have healthcare get it themselves like those like me did.

People don't get off welfare when you make welfare more beneficial than working.

 

[francoHFW]

A- Under ACA, ANYONE can get good insurance at an affordable price. Not before.

b- Yup. So ACA raises Medicaid upper limit from $0 to $1400 so people can get a job (except in mindless red states). Nobody wants to be on welfare. You hater dupes want those on it to cry nonstop or something. A disgrace.

 

[Flanders]

It is Karl Rove’s Republicans like Sen. Johnson & Company who refuse to kill the ACA:

The GOP seems determined to reinforce its reputation as “the stupid party.” Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and other prominent Republicans plan to co-sponsor a piece of legislation introduced by Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson that, as he recently admitted in the Wall Street Journal, would allow Obamacare subsidies issued through federal exchanges to continue for two more years — even if the Supreme Court declares them illegal. This will not only mask the negative consequences of the sloppily written law, it will antagonize the voters who reinstated the GOP congressional majority last November and provide yet more time for Obamacare to metastasize.

Senator Johnson and his co-sponsors have evidently fallen for the counterintuitive Democrat talking point, relentlessly repeated in the media, that a Supreme Court ruling against the Obama administration in King v. Burwell will harm the GOP.

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It is, however, far less likely that the wrath of these Obamacare victims will be directed at Republicans, assuming the GOP handles itself with intestinal fortitude and intelligence.​

Obviously, Johnson and McConnell have no sense of smell:

Another reason Senator Johnson’s bill is a bad idea involves the voters who went to the polls in November, many with fingers clamped tightly over their noses, and provided the GOP with its congressional majority. As Michael Barone pointed out after the midterms, Obamacare was a crucial motivating factor for the voters who put the Republicans in control of the Senate. These people didn’t give power to the Republicans so they could make nice with Democrats. They want Obamacare repealed and replaced, and they are not going to be pleased to see the GOP producing a “bipartisan subsidy fix” that lets the Obama administration off the hook if the Supreme Court hands it a defeat.

Let Obamacare’s Subsidy Victims Suffer
The GOP must not legalize subsidies that SCOTUS strikes down.
By David Catron – 4.27.15

Let Obamacare s Subsidy Victims Suffer The American Spectator​

Months ago, the media jumped all over a bunch of stuff in order to drive repealing HillaryCare II out of sight. I guess that is why networks led by FOX are getting away with pushing douche bags like Jeb Bush (Common Core and amnesty for illegal aliens) and Marco Rubio (point man for The Gang Of Eight). You do not have to pay attention to know what media choices stand for? The question is: Exactly what in hell will they stand against when it comes down to the nitty-gritty?

Incidentally, conservatives should be asking themselves why Karl Rove gets so much face time on FOX.

 

[francoHFW]

^^ Brainwashed or bought off RW idiocy...

 

[jasonnfree]

I find it ironic that we have "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance and "In God We Trust" on this country's money. Yet, we don't practice what the Word of God tells us.

"If among you, one of your brothers should become poor, in any of your towns within your land that the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart or shut your hand against your poor brother, but you shall open your hand to him and lend him sufficient for his need, whatever it may be. Take care lest there be an unworthy thought in your heart and you say, ‘The seventh year, the year of release is near,’ and your eye look grudgingly on your poor brother, and you give him nothing, and he cry to the Lord against you, and you be guilty of sin. You shall give to him freely, and your heart shall not be grudging when you give to him, because for this the Lord your God will bless you in all your work and in all that you undertake. For there will never cease to be poor in the land. Therefore I command you, ‘You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor, in your land "-
Deuteronomy 15:7-11

There are many versus in the Bible that are along the same lines and thoughts as the scripture above..
Here we are the wealthiest country in the world. Here we are a country that is God based, yet we are the only wealthy country in the world that heathcare is not a right.
It seems commonplace, that a thread or post claims the other side is anti-Christian. Typically those It who post such trash are the same ones who deny the opportunity of healthcare to our poor, weak and elderly. These are also the same people who call the Pope a socialist/communist for repeating what is in the Bible. The sad irony of this country, is it doesn't practice what it preaches. No our theme is, "what's mine is mine and the hell with anybody else".

To kiwiman127: I do not discuss Jesus or the Bible except in very general terms, but I am certain that Jesus never preached institutional charity. Apparently you do not know the difference between institutional charity, and the parable of the Good Samaritan.

In short: Every parasite since the beginning of time shared the same personality trait with every other parasite. Their personal morality only has meaning so long as everybody practices the same morality. The instant a true Good Samaritan appears, institutional charity must be enforced. If you cannot grasp the meaning in my comments I’ll cut to the chase in relation to the ACA.

Socialized medicine is the ultimate government charity by force. The parasite class had to be first created in a welfare state. That was accomplished with free education, free housing, free food, and all of the rest of the garbage the parasite class spouts.

Basically, the parasite class had to be established before socialized medicine was possible. In plain English voters had to be created incrementally before free healthcare. Had free healthcare been possible ——FIRST —— progressive freaks would have legislated it more than a century ago. That is how long it took to create enough parasite voters to sustain a welfare state. Indeed, even with a substantial number of parasites voting for coerced charity, Democrats still had to force socialized medicine on the country.

Today, jesus would be a registered republican and would have "don't help the poor if it raises my taxes" on his license plates.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Costs are going down because of transparent competition and regulation of Big Health for the first time. The corrupt GOP/Big Health party is over,despite a tidal wave of bs propaganda and your selfish ignorance.

We are not regulating health care for the first time. That is simply silly.

However, it appears that we are actually paying attention to costs.

 

[francoHFW]

silly and true. or link.

 

[oldernwiser]

Take a real close look at this graph. Medicare HI and Cadillac taxes are the only ones which grow except for the projected employer mandates after 2015 (we're already looking at the individual mandate). Every other category in the graph is relatively constant. This means that if you're one of those lucky rich folks, you'll pay a little more - chances are really good that you can afford it without too much pinching. The rest of us (more than 80% of the populace) will see absolutely no appreciable change apart from the seasonal adjustment of insurance rates - and they happen every year with or without ACA.

Sorry - it's going to be an uphill battle to convince a diabetic with 3 kids and a low wage earning wife how horrible ACA is when they just got their whole family insured for $20/month.

 

[Politico]

A- Under ACA, ANYONE can get good insurance at an affordable price. Not before.

b- Yup. So ACA raises Medicaid upper limit from $0 to $1400 so people can get a job (except in mindless red states). Nobody wants to be on welfare. You hater dupes want those on it to cry nonstop or something. A disgrace.

LOL!!!!!

 

[francoHFW]

You have a feqqed up sense of humor.

 

[dblack]

The purpose of the mandate was to get EVERYONE on insurance, because otherwise people with preexisting conditions and low income couldn't afford it.

Yep. Because most of you idiots have been suckered by the insurance industry sales pitch, you decide to force everyone else to follow your blunder.