Kick Ass vs Pussy Wars

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  1. Lumpy 1
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    I think it's about time America started kicking some ass around the world. Stop this politically correct BS and put some fear in our enemies and so-called friends. I say leave war to the military and let the politicians and historians piss and moan later.

    I'm no military strategist, obviously but it seems to me that when politicians, lawyers, foreign countries and the peace niks get involved in setting U.S. military policy, more of our brave and honored soldiers end up injured and dead and wars seem an endless dribble of wasted money and lives.

    So, I say if the military set the strategy of winning in the shortest possible amount of time, with least amount of military casualties. If that involved the death of innocent civilians, loss of cherished artifacts and so for forth, tough shit.

    Clinton's no hero of mine but the War in Kosovo and the NATO method of bombing from March 22nd to June 11 1999 and breaking some politically correct eggs along the way was a step in the right direction.

    Afghanistan/ Pakistan seems like a good place to start. Also, if countries like Germany, France and so forth are just over there to twiddle there thumbs, send them home in the disgrace they deserve.....

    Ok that's off my chest....:salute:
     
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    Too late I'm afraid. The ability of any country to wage total war is probably now non-existent. Since war is a political strategy it has inherent limitations and also war is only a means to and end, not an end in itself as you seem to think.
     
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    I feel mumbo then jumbo, resulting in just dumbo....:eusa_doh:....:Some further explanation would be appreciated.
     
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    Certainly!

    Total war - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    We'll start there. And I think it's only fair that I give you a chance to comment on my claim that I think you are advocating total war.

    Are you?
     
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    It's so easy for people to talk about waging war from in front of their computer screens....

    i love chickenhawks... don't you?
     
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    when did you serve?
     
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    Too many video games, I'd guess. :lol:
     
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    People who've served don't generally pray for war. They fight when needed, IMO.

    I'm thinking our lumpy friend just likes the cool uniforms.
     
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    War is not won by declaring victory. It is won when one party admits defeat.
    There are only a few ways to make them admit defeat, that is to either destroy their ability to continue fighting (killing people and/or destroying resources), destroy their will to fight (usually by killing people), or scare them so badly that they fear they will all be killed if they continue.
    The way to win is to be brutal, cold and vicious. You have to be willing to use whatever means necessary to win, then do it.
     
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    you might be on the right track ;)
     

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