Keystone Pipeline: Yes Or No

Keystone Pipeline: Yes Or No


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I live in pipeline alley for natural gas for the NE USA.

IN the past 30 years we have had 6 blowouts within 15 miles of my location. The most recent one was a 29" one. Was 5 miles away by aie and sounded like the space shuttle going off. That one did not catch fire. But in the past others have and a few have been killed and homes burned.

The Keystone XL Pipeline isn't natural gas.

What's the name of the gas pipeline your talking about?

I'd like to research it myself and see just how honest/dishonest you are.

Gas/Oil does not matter where iminent domain is used. That is my point.
And it is wrong to use it for a foreign owned private company on US soil.

You got BUSTED.. LIAR fits.
 
so having a foreign company come in and condemn private property for their pipeline is fine with you?


Nope several companies including Tenneco, a US company.

A Canadian company is not able to do that. Any properties involved would be subject to their State government I would think.

And TransCanada is more than willing to move the proposed pipeline further east in Nebraskas as to avoid the aquifer in Sandhills area. I thnk that's the area the Nebraskan government was concerned about..

We really take the environment seriously up here. I've been a conservationist for as long as I can remember. And we never let our guard down. We have huge areas of pristine wilderness and take being caretakers of the earth with a passion.

And that's coast to coast. Canucks are really protective of the land we live on. And we demand very high standards for corporations that deal with mining, forestry, fishing or oil.
 
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For those concerned about the dirty oil aspect again that you hear ad nauseaum by enviro whackos (please note I am a conservationist and there is a difference between enviro whackos and conservationists)

Here's more truth:

In a speech to the Canadian Club in Toronto on September 23, 2011, Joe Oliver, Canada's Minister of Natural Resources, sharply criticized opponents of oil sands development and the pipeline, arguing that:

The total area that has been affected by surface mining represents only 0.1% of Canada's boreal forest.

The oil sands account for about 0.1% of global greenhouse-gas emissions.

Electricity plants powered by coal in the U.S. generate almost 40 times more greenhouse-gas emissions than Canada's oil sands (the coal-fired electricity plants in the State of Wisconsin alone produce the equivalent of the entire GHG emissions of the oil sands.

California bitumen is more GHG-intensive than the oil sands.

Oliver criticized opponents of the pipeline, stating that all of the above facts are ignored by "celebrity protestors."
 
Do we really need this? Is it really worth it? Lets try and preserve our clean air and water. Because once that's gone,you can't get it back.
 
I just want to sit and enjoy nature for a bit. Damn,is that too much to ask? I don't give a shit about oil and money. I just want to chill and enjoy some clean air & water. I don't need this pipeline. Do you?
 
I was just watching the news. Here's a real kick in the teeth. The New Democratic Party of Canada (socialists), Her Majesty's so called loyal opposition, is at this very moment in Washington DC trying to convince your politicians to kill the pipeline, kill the thousands of jobs that will be created on both sides of the border, trashing on my province and our oil sands. They can afford to do this as they only have one elected federal politician in my province. They are determined to turn Canada into a welfare state. It makes my blood boil.
 
I just want to sit and enjoy nature for a bit. Damn,is that too much to ask? I don't give a shit about oil and money. I just want to chill and enjoy some clean air & water. I don't need this pipeline. Do you?

You can have a pipeline and still enjoy nature. I'm far more concerned about the impact of intensive hog farming than I am about a pipeline. But that's for another day in the Enviroment Forum.
 
Not all that familiar with the issue but from what I saw in the paper it looks like the pipeline is above ground? is that right?

Not really worried about the aquifier, but what causes me concern would be the proximity of the pipeline to tornado alley. as the route goes through Oklahoma. Can anyone tell me what they plan to do when a F4 hits the pipeline? and what the contingency plan would be?
 
I was just watching the news. Here's a real kick in the teeth. The New Democratic Party of Canada (socialists), Her Majesty's so called loyal opposition, is at this very moment in Washington DC trying to convince your politicians to kill the pipeline, kill the thousands of jobs that will be created on both sides of the border, trashing on my province and our oil sands. They can afford to do this as they only have one elected federal politician in my province. They are determined to turn Canada into a welfare state. It makes my blood boil.

The radicals in the NDP are going to push their party into oblivion by the next election unless they get someone like Gary Doer to head the party.

I was afraid this would happen when Jack died.That the crazies would charge forth.

Layton was a practical hands on not pie in the sky rabid NDP persons. I knew Layton and Chow for all my years in Toronto.

Manitoba for me now on the edge of Sandilands eta: It's a provincial forest. lol, not kidding when I say I live in the middle of nowhere.

To the point of jobs. This is seriously anti Union on both sides of the border. And the Unions are going to be more than pissed off at this in the States and here at home.

Watch Unions run back to the Liberals, lol.
 
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BlindBoo,
Yes that's alot of oil. We supply 25% of your energy needs today but we can supply so much more. Come on, wouldn't you rather deal with a close friend and buy less from the Saudi's or that crazy Hugo Chavez?
 
Oh and don't worry about Canuck jobs. Harper will make good on his promise to get a pipeline to the coast and sell to Asia.

I pity the American workers who were really counting on this pipeline to provide much needed jobs.
 
Let Canada and China work their deal out. And lets do the right thing and preserve what little clean air,water,and land we have left. Whada ya say America?
 
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Let Canada and China work their deal out. And lets do the riight thing and preserve what little clean air,water,and land we have left. Whada ya say America?

WTF???? What little clean air we have left??? Did someone steal all of our clean air? I must have been seeing an illusion these past few years with the clear blue skies over the Outer Banks???
 
Come on people,get it together. There's nothing better than watching nature in action. You forget about all your problems and get a real chance to escape. You lose that,you lose your sanity. This pipeline will only take that away from you in the end. Forget the Money and do the right thing. Lets pass on this one.
 
BlindBoo,
Yes that's alot of oil. We supply 25% of your energy needs today but we can supply so much more. Come on, wouldn't you rather deal with a close friend and buy less from the Saudi's or that crazy Hugo Chavez?

Well, somedays I think Obama would prefer to work with crazies. Don't forget Bill Ayers and Chesa his adopted son are linked at the hip with Hugo.

And Obama loaned Brazil huge $$$$$$$$$$ for guess what? Offshore freaking drilling. But then Soros has a ton of stock in that company.
 
Yes, but to be viable a Natural gas liquification facility needs to be built.
And the natural gas needs to be piped to there.

And this pipeline will just move oil to where it can be easially exported.


What ever happened to Palins gas line anyway? The one god told her to build.

I thought that she wanted to "drill baby drill"? I didn't know God had told her to do it though :lol:

Umm the natural gas line from Alaska to the lower 48.

It would appear you follow and pay closer attention to Palin than I do. I don't know anything about her gas line, hence my other post ;)
 
The only thing i know for sure is that there will be no possible negative impacts on our environment if this pipeline isn't built. And that's good enough for me. I'm not interested in risking our clean nature environment. The money just doesn't mean anything to me.
 
The only thing i know for sure is that there will be no possible negative impacts on our environment if this pipeline isn't built. And that's good enough for me. I'm not interested in risking our clean nature environment. The money just doesn't mean anything to me.

I still think we should just build refineries for the oil in the northern US and use the products in that area.
 

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