Keynesian Economics Does Not Work

[Bfgrn]

Obama s stimulus package 5 years later Dems defend Republicans ridicule - Washington Times
When are liberals going to understand that spending taxpayers money on public works projects is not the answer to our economy. These are short term boondoggles that go to Congressional districts where senior Democrats have the seat. Conservatives, however, must get off the income tax cut trip that they are on. We do not manufacture big ticket items in America anymore. If an individual gets a tax rebate and goes out and buys a washing machine, refrigerator, microwave, television, computer, etc. it stimulates the Chinese economy when factory orders go up. JFK's tax cut of 1962 was a success because orders went up for American factories due to the fact these big ticket consumer items were manufactured in the USA.

Public works projects and infrastructure spending is NOT short term. Tax cuts are short term.

Yes it is. The spending for the project ends. And depending on what it is you are left with a white elephant and nothing more.
How many airports to nowhere do we need? What economic value do they provide?
Libs are incapable of thinking beyond Stage One.

Holy fuck. Is there anyone who is more stupid then you? Infrastructure is the foundation of COMMERCE. It is what separates first world nations from third world jungles.

Hey MORON...if it takes a week to deliver goods and produce to your local market, vs one day, which goods and produce will have a HIGHER cost to the end user?

So tell me pea brain...what economic value does commerce have?

What a fucking dipshit you are.
What is "infrastructure"? Do you mean highways? Yeah, those have been built.Bridges? ALready built. Most of the infrastructure that is economically useful has already been built. Building bridges to nowhere and airports that service no one is not economically useful. Please tell me you understand this concept: that not all infrastructure projects offer return on their investment. Please.

More than just highways and bridges.

Infrastructure refers to the basic physical and organizational structures needed for the operation of a society or enterprise or the services and facilities necessary for an economy to function. It can be generally defined as the set of interconnected structural elements that provide a framework supporting an entire structure of development. It is an important term for judging a country or region's development.

The term typically refers to the technical structures that support a society, such as roads, bridges, water supply, sewers, electrical grids, telecommunications, and so forth, and can be defined as "the physical components of interrelated systems providing commodities and services essential to enable, sustain, or enhance societal living conditions."

Viewed functionally, infrastructure facilitates the production of goods and services, and also the distribution of finished products to markets, as well as basic social services such as schools and hospitals; for example, roads enable the transport of raw materials to a factory. In military parlance, the term refers to the buildings and permanent installations necessary for the support, redeployment, and operation of military forces.



And highway and especially bridges need to be RE-built, updated and expanded as population grows. Any area where there is gridlock is in need of updating. Gridlock COSTS everyone money. Not just wasted fuel, but wasted time and a drag on commerce. Every hour a semi filled with goods sits on a highway, the COST of those goods goes UP.

 

[Nyvin]

What a fucking dipshit you are.
What is "infrastructure"? Do you mean highways? Yeah, those have been built.Bridges? ALready built. Most of the infrastructure that is economically useful has already been built. Building bridges to nowhere and airports that service no one is not economically useful. Please tell me you understand this concept: that not all infrastructure projects offer return on their investment. Please.

Look at all the bridges in Ohio that are about to crumble and say everything has been built.

Wow, this post just really reeks of stupid. Honest, I don't attack people personally like this often but...man.

 

[The Rabbi]

What a fucking dipshit you are.
What is "infrastructure"? Do you mean highways? Yeah, those have been built.Bridges? ALready built. Most of the infrastructure that is economically useful has already been built. Building bridges to nowhere and airports that service no one is not economically useful. Please tell me you understand this concept: that not all infrastructure projects offer return on their investment. Please.

Look at all the bridges in Ohio that are about to crumble and say everything has been built.

Wow, this post just really reeks of stupid. Honest, I don't attack people personally like this often but...man.

Please show me all teh bridges in Ohio about to crumble. Then you can explain why the stimulus didnt pay to repair any of them. Oh yeah, you can also explain how an existing bridge hasnt been built.

 

[The Rabbi]

Obama s stimulus package 5 years later Dems defend Republicans ridicule - Washington Times
When are liberals going to understand that spending taxpayers money on public works projects is not the answer to our economy. These are short term boondoggles that go to Congressional districts where senior Democrats have the seat. Conservatives, however, must get off the income tax cut trip that they are on. We do not manufacture big ticket items in America anymore. If an individual gets a tax rebate and goes out and buys a washing machine, refrigerator, microwave, television, computer, etc. it stimulates the Chinese economy when factory orders go up. JFK's tax cut of 1962 was a success because orders went up for American factories due to the fact these big ticket consumer items were manufactured in the USA.

Public works projects and infrastructure spending is NOT short term. Tax cuts are short term.

Yes it is. The spending for the project ends. And depending on what it is you are left with a white elephant and nothing more.
How many airports to nowhere do we need? What economic value do they provide?
Libs are incapable of thinking beyond Stage One.

Holy fuck. Is there anyone who is more stupid then you? Infrastructure is the foundation of COMMERCE. It is what separates first world nations from third world jungles.

Hey MORON...if it takes a week to deliver goods and produce to your local market, vs one day, which goods and produce will have a HIGHER cost to the end user?

So tell me pea brain...what economic value does commerce have?

What a fucking dipshit you are.
What is "infrastructure"? Do you mean highways? Yeah, those have been built.Bridges? ALready built. Most of the infrastructure that is economically useful has already been built. Building bridges to nowhere and airports that service no one is not economically useful. Please tell me you understand this concept: that not all infrastructure projects offer return on their investment. Please.

More than just highways and bridges.

Infrastructure refers to the basic physical and organizational structures needed for the operation of a society or enterprise or the services and facilities necessary for an economy to function. It can be generally defined as the set of interconnected structural elements that provide a framework supporting an entire structure of development. It is an important term for judging a country or region's development.

The term typically refers to the technical structures that support a society, such as roads, bridges, water supply, sewers, electrical grids, telecommunications, and so forth, and can be defined as "the physical components of interrelated systems providing commodities and services essential to enable, sustain, or enhance societal living conditions."

Viewed functionally, infrastructure facilitates the production of goods and services, and also the distribution of finished products to markets, as well as basic social services such as schools and hospitals; for example, roads enable the transport of raw materials to a factory. In military parlance, the term refers to the buildings and permanent installations necessary for the support, redeployment, and operation of military forces.



And highway and especially bridges need to be RE-built, updated and expanded as population grows. Any area where there is gridlock is in need of updating. Gridlock COSTS everyone money. Not just wasted fuel, but wasted time and a drag on commerce. Every hour a semi filled with goods sits on a highway, the COST of those goods goes UP.

So you plagiarized a definition and want to claim an argument.
Where are these highways that need to be built? Why didn teh stimulus build them? What water supplies need to be built? Where are these? Do you know what you're talking about or just spewing shit? I knwo the answer to that one.

 

[regent]

Was the spending for WWII an example of Keneyes?

 

[Nyvin]

Please show me all teh bridges in Ohio about to crumble. Then you can explain why the stimulus didnt pay to repair any of them. Oh yeah, you can also explain how an existing bridge hasnt been built.

you're a dunce. In a nation with a population growing at about ~9% per decade and technology advancing as fast as it is just saying "everything needed has been built" is just so....so....SO dumb. Really, just stop.

 

[Bfgrn]

Obama s stimulus package 5 years later Dems defend Republicans ridicule - Washington Times
When are liberals going to understand that spending taxpayers money on public works projects is not the answer to our economy. These are short term boondoggles that go to Congressional districts where senior Democrats have the seat. Conservatives, however, must get off the income tax cut trip that they are on. We do not manufacture big ticket items in America anymore. If an individual gets a tax rebate and goes out and buys a washing machine, refrigerator, microwave, television, computer, etc. it stimulates the Chinese economy when factory orders go up. JFK's tax cut of 1962 was a success because orders went up for American factories due to the fact these big ticket consumer items were manufactured in the USA.

Public works projects and infrastructure spending is NOT short term. Tax cuts are short term.

Yes it is. The spending for the project ends. And depending on what it is you are left with a white elephant and nothing more.
How many airports to nowhere do we need? What economic value do they provide?
Libs are incapable of thinking beyond Stage One.

Holy fuck. Is there anyone who is more stupid then you? Infrastructure is the foundation of COMMERCE. It is what separates first world nations from third world jungles.

Hey MORON...if it takes a week to deliver goods and produce to your local market, vs one day, which goods and produce will have a HIGHER cost to the end user?

So tell me pea brain...what economic value does commerce have?

What a fucking dipshit you are.
What is "infrastructure"? Do you mean highways? Yeah, those have been built.Bridges? ALready built. Most of the infrastructure that is economically useful has already been built. Building bridges to nowhere and airports that service no one is not economically useful. Please tell me you understand this concept: that not all infrastructure projects offer return on their investment. Please.

More than just highways and bridges.

Infrastructure refers to the basic physical and organizational structures needed for the operation of a society or enterprise or the services and facilities necessary for an economy to function. It can be generally defined as the set of interconnected structural elements that provide a framework supporting an entire structure of development. It is an important term for judging a country or region's development.

The term typically refers to the technical structures that support a society, such as roads, bridges, water supply, sewers, electrical grids, telecommunications, and so forth, and can be defined as "the physical components of interrelated systems providing commodities and services essential to enable, sustain, or enhance societal living conditions."

Viewed functionally, infrastructure facilitates the production of goods and services, and also the distribution of finished products to markets, as well as basic social services such as schools and hospitals; for example, roads enable the transport of raw materials to a factory. In military parlance, the term refers to the buildings and permanent installations necessary for the support, redeployment, and operation of military forces.



And highway and especially bridges need to be RE-built, updated and expanded as population grows. Any area where there is gridlock is in need of updating. Gridlock COSTS everyone money. Not just wasted fuel, but wasted time and a drag on commerce. Every hour a semi filled with goods sits on a highway, the COST of those goods goes UP.

So you plagiarized a definition and want to claim an argument.
Where are these highways that need to be built? Why didn teh stimulus build them? What water supplies need to be built? Where are these? Do you know what you're talking about or just spewing shit? I knwo the answer to that one.

Obama s stimulus package 5 years later Dems defend Republicans ridicule - Washington Times
When are liberals going to understand that spending taxpayers money on public works projects is not the answer to our economy. These are short term boondoggles that go to Congressional districts where senior Democrats have the seat. Conservatives, however, must get off the income tax cut trip that they are on. We do not manufacture big ticket items in America anymore. If an individual gets a tax rebate and goes out and buys a washing machine, refrigerator, microwave, television, computer, etc. it stimulates the Chinese economy when factory orders go up. JFK's tax cut of 1962 was a success because orders went up for American factories due to the fact these big ticket consumer items were manufactured in the USA.

Public works projects and infrastructure spending is NOT short term. Tax cuts are short term.

Yes it is. The spending for the project ends. And depending on what it is you are left with a white elephant and nothing more.
How many airports to nowhere do we need? What economic value do they provide?
Libs are incapable of thinking beyond Stage One.

Holy fuck. Is there anyone who is more stupid then you? Infrastructure is the foundation of COMMERCE. It is what separates first world nations from third world jungles.

Hey MORON...if it takes a week to deliver goods and produce to your local market, vs one day, which goods and produce will have a HIGHER cost to the end user?

So tell me pea brain...what economic value does commerce have?

What a fucking dipshit you are.
What is "infrastructure"? Do you mean highways? Yeah, those have been built.Bridges? ALready built. Most of the infrastructure that is economically useful has already been built. Building bridges to nowhere and airports that service no one is not economically useful. Please tell me you understand this concept: that not all infrastructure projects offer return on their investment. Please.

More than just highways and bridges.

Infrastructure refers to the basic physical and organizational structures needed for the operation of a society or enterprise or the services and facilities necessary for an economy to function. It can be generally defined as the set of interconnected structural elements that provide a framework supporting an entire structure of development. It is an important term for judging a country or region's development.

The term typically refers to the technical structures that support a society, such as roads, bridges, water supply, sewers, electrical grids, telecommunications, and so forth, and can be defined as "the physical components of interrelated systems providing commodities and services essential to enable, sustain, or enhance societal living conditions."

Viewed functionally, infrastructure facilitates the production of goods and services, and also the distribution of finished products to markets, as well as basic social services such as schools and hospitals; for example, roads enable the transport of raw materials to a factory. In military parlance, the term refers to the buildings and permanent installations necessary for the support, redeployment, and operation of military forces.



And highway and especially bridges need to be RE-built, updated and expanded as population grows. Any area where there is gridlock is in need of updating. Gridlock COSTS everyone money. Not just wasted fuel, but wasted time and a drag on commerce. Every hour a semi filled with goods sits on a highway, the COST of those goods goes UP.

So you plagiarized a definition and want to claim an argument.
Where are these highways that need to be built? Why didn teh stimulus build them? What water supplies need to be built? Where are these? Do you know what you're talking about or just spewing shit? I knwo the answer to that one.

Obama s stimulus package 5 years later Dems defend Republicans ridicule - Washington Times
When are liberals going to understand that spending taxpayers money on public works projects is not the answer to our economy. These are short term boondoggles that go to Congressional districts where senior Democrats have the seat. Conservatives, however, must get off the income tax cut trip that they are on. We do not manufacture big ticket items in America anymore. If an individual gets a tax rebate and goes out and buys a washing machine, refrigerator, microwave, television, computer, etc. it stimulates the Chinese economy when factory orders go up. JFK's tax cut of 1962 was a success because orders went up for American factories due to the fact these big ticket consumer items were manufactured in the USA.

Public works projects and infrastructure spending is NOT short term. Tax cuts are short term.

Yes it is. The spending for the project ends. And depending on what it is you are left with a white elephant and nothing more.
How many airports to nowhere do we need? What economic value do they provide?
Libs are incapable of thinking beyond Stage One.

Holy fuck. Is there anyone who is more stupid then you? Infrastructure is the foundation of COMMERCE. It is what separates first world nations from third world jungles.

Hey MORON...if it takes a week to deliver goods and produce to your local market, vs one day, which goods and produce will have a HIGHER cost to the end user?

So tell me pea brain...what economic value does commerce have?

What a fucking dipshit you are.
What is "infrastructure"? Do you mean highways? Yeah, those have been built.Bridges? ALready built. Most of the infrastructure that is economically useful has already been built. Building bridges to nowhere and airports that service no one is not economically useful. Please tell me you understand this concept: that not all infrastructure projects offer return on their investment. Please.

More than just highways and bridges.

Infrastructure refers to the basic physical and organizational structures needed for the operation of a society or enterprise or the services and facilities necessary for an economy to function. It can be generally defined as the set of interconnected structural elements that provide a framework supporting an entire structure of development. It is an important term for judging a country or region's development.

The term typically refers to the technical structures that support a society, such as roads, bridges, water supply, sewers, electrical grids, telecommunications, and so forth, and can be defined as "the physical components of interrelated systems providing commodities and services essential to enable, sustain, or enhance societal living conditions."

Viewed functionally, infrastructure facilitates the production of goods and services, and also the distribution of finished products to markets, as well as basic social services such as schools and hospitals; for example, roads enable the transport of raw materials to a factory. In military parlance, the term refers to the buildings and permanent installations necessary for the support, redeployment, and operation of military forces.



And highway and especially bridges need to be RE-built, updated and expanded as population grows. Any area where there is gridlock is in need of updating. Gridlock COSTS everyone money. Not just wasted fuel, but wasted time and a drag on commerce. Every hour a semi filled with goods sits on a highway, the COST of those goods goes UP.

So you plagiarized a definition and want to claim an argument.
Where are these highways that need to be built? Why didn teh stimulus build them? What water supplies need to be built? Where are these? Do you know what you're talking about or just spewing shit? I knwo the answer to that one.

There is no plagiarism. I provided a link asshole.

HELLO? It anyone home? maybe if I repeat it multiple times it will penetrate your thick skull...

Any area where there is gridlock is in need of updating. Gridlock COSTS everyone money. Not just wasted fuel, but wasted time and a drag on commerce. Every hour a semi filled with goods sits on a highway, the COST of those goods goes UP.

Any area where there is gridlock is in need of updating. Gridlock COSTS everyone money. Not just wasted fuel, but wasted time and a drag on commerce. Every hour a semi filled with goods sits on a highway, the COST of those goods goes UP.

Any area where there is gridlock is in need of updating. Gridlock COSTS everyone money. Not just wasted fuel, but wasted time and a drag on commerce. Every hour a semi filled with goods sits on a highway, the COST of those goods goes UP.

 

[The Rabbi]

Obama s stimulus package 5 years later Dems defend Republicans ridicule - Washington Times
When are liberals going to understand that spending taxpayers money on public works projects is not the answer to our economy. These are short term boondoggles that go to Congressional districts where senior Democrats have the seat. Conservatives, however, must get off the income tax cut trip that they are on. We do not manufacture big ticket items in America anymore. If an individual gets a tax rebate and goes out and buys a washing machine, refrigerator, microwave, television, computer, etc. it stimulates the Chinese economy when factory orders go up. JFK's tax cut of 1962 was a success because orders went up for American factories due to the fact these big ticket consumer items were manufactured in the USA.

Public works projects and infrastructure spending is NOT short term. Tax cuts are short term.

Yes it is. The spending for the project ends. And depending on what it is you are left with a white elephant and nothing more.
How many airports to nowhere do we need? What economic value do they provide?
Libs are incapable of thinking beyond Stage One.

Holy fuck. Is there anyone who is more stupid then you? Infrastructure is the foundation of COMMERCE. It is what separates first world nations from third world jungles.

Hey MORON...if it takes a week to deliver goods and produce to your local market, vs one day, which goods and produce will have a HIGHER cost to the end user?

So tell me pea brain...what economic value does commerce have?

What a fucking dipshit you are.
What is "infrastructure"? Do you mean highways? Yeah, those have been built.Bridges? ALready built. Most of the infrastructure that is economically useful has already been built. Building bridges to nowhere and airports that service no one is not economically useful. Please tell me you understand this concept: that not all infrastructure projects offer return on their investment. Please.

More than just highways and bridges.

Infrastructure refers to the basic physical and organizational structures needed for the operation of a society or enterprise or the services and facilities necessary for an economy to function. It can be generally defined as the set of interconnected structural elements that provide a framework supporting an entire structure of development. It is an important term for judging a country or region's development.

The term typically refers to the technical structures that support a society, such as roads, bridges, water supply, sewers, electrical grids, telecommunications, and so forth, and can be defined as "the physical components of interrelated systems providing commodities and services essential to enable, sustain, or enhance societal living conditions."

Viewed functionally, infrastructure facilitates the production of goods and services, and also the distribution of finished products to markets, as well as basic social services such as schools and hospitals; for example, roads enable the transport of raw materials to a factory. In military parlance, the term refers to the buildings and permanent installations necessary for the support, redeployment, and operation of military forces.



And highway and especially bridges need to be RE-built, updated and expanded as population grows. Any area where there is gridlock is in need of updating. Gridlock COSTS everyone money. Not just wasted fuel, but wasted time and a drag on commerce. Every hour a semi filled with goods sits on a highway, the COST of those goods goes UP.

So you plagiarized a definition and want to claim an argument.
Where are these highways that need to be built? Why didn teh stimulus build them? What water supplies need to be built? Where are these? Do you know what you're talking about or just spewing shit? I knwo the answer to that one.

Obama s stimulus package 5 years later Dems defend Republicans ridicule - Washington Times
When are liberals going to understand that spending taxpayers money on public works projects is not the answer to our economy. These are short term boondoggles that go to Congressional districts where senior Democrats have the seat. Conservatives, however, must get off the income tax cut trip that they are on. We do not manufacture big ticket items in America anymore. If an individual gets a tax rebate and goes out and buys a washing machine, refrigerator, microwave, television, computer, etc. it stimulates the Chinese economy when factory orders go up. JFK's tax cut of 1962 was a success because orders went up for American factories due to the fact these big ticket consumer items were manufactured in the USA.

Public works projects and infrastructure spending is NOT short term. Tax cuts are short term.

Yes it is. The spending for the project ends. And depending on what it is you are left with a white elephant and nothing more.
How many airports to nowhere do we need? What economic value do they provide?
Libs are incapable of thinking beyond Stage One.

Holy fuck. Is there anyone who is more stupid then you? Infrastructure is the foundation of COMMERCE. It is what separates first world nations from third world jungles.

Hey MORON...if it takes a week to deliver goods and produce to your local market, vs one day, which goods and produce will have a HIGHER cost to the end user?

So tell me pea brain...what economic value does commerce have?

What a fucking dipshit you are.
What is "infrastructure"? Do you mean highways? Yeah, those have been built.Bridges? ALready built. Most of the infrastructure that is economically useful has already been built. Building bridges to nowhere and airports that service no one is not economically useful. Please tell me you understand this concept: that not all infrastructure projects offer return on their investment. Please.

More than just highways and bridges.

Infrastructure refers to the basic physical and organizational structures needed for the operation of a society or enterprise or the services and facilities necessary for an economy to function. It can be generally defined as the set of interconnected structural elements that provide a framework supporting an entire structure of development. It is an important term for judging a country or region's development.

The term typically refers to the technical structures that support a society, such as roads, bridges, water supply, sewers, electrical grids, telecommunications, and so forth, and can be defined as "the physical components of interrelated systems providing commodities and services essential to enable, sustain, or enhance societal living conditions."

Viewed functionally, infrastructure facilitates the production of goods and services, and also the distribution of finished products to markets, as well as basic social services such as schools and hospitals; for example, roads enable the transport of raw materials to a factory. In military parlance, the term refers to the buildings and permanent installations necessary for the support, redeployment, and operation of military forces.



And highway and especially bridges need to be RE-built, updated and expanded as population grows. Any area where there is gridlock is in need of updating. Gridlock COSTS everyone money. Not just wasted fuel, but wasted time and a drag on commerce. Every hour a semi filled with goods sits on a highway, the COST of those goods goes UP.

So you plagiarized a definition and want to claim an argument.
Where are these highways that need to be built? Why didn teh stimulus build them? What water supplies need to be built? Where are these? Do you know what you're talking about or just spewing shit? I knwo the answer to that one.

Obama s stimulus package 5 years later Dems defend Republicans ridicule - Washington Times
When are liberals going to understand that spending taxpayers money on public works projects is not the answer to our economy. These are short term boondoggles that go to Congressional districts where senior Democrats have the seat. Conservatives, however, must get off the income tax cut trip that they are on. We do not manufacture big ticket items in America anymore. If an individual gets a tax rebate and goes out and buys a washing machine, refrigerator, microwave, television, computer, etc. it stimulates the Chinese economy when factory orders go up. JFK's tax cut of 1962 was a success because orders went up for American factories due to the fact these big ticket consumer items were manufactured in the USA.

Public works projects and infrastructure spending is NOT short term. Tax cuts are short term.

Yes it is. The spending for the project ends. And depending on what it is you are left with a white elephant and nothing more.
How many airports to nowhere do we need? What economic value do they provide?
Libs are incapable of thinking beyond Stage One.

Holy fuck. Is there anyone who is more stupid then you? Infrastructure is the foundation of COMMERCE. It is what separates first world nations from third world jungles.

Hey MORON...if it takes a week to deliver goods and produce to your local market, vs one day, which goods and produce will have a HIGHER cost to the end user?

So tell me pea brain...what economic value does commerce have?

What a fucking dipshit you are.
What is "infrastructure"? Do you mean highways? Yeah, those have been built.Bridges? ALready built. Most of the infrastructure that is economically useful has already been built. Building bridges to nowhere and airports that service no one is not economically useful. Please tell me you understand this concept: that not all infrastructure projects offer return on their investment. Please.

More than just highways and bridges.

Infrastructure refers to the basic physical and organizational structures needed for the operation of a society or enterprise or the services and facilities necessary for an economy to function. It can be generally defined as the set of interconnected structural elements that provide a framework supporting an entire structure of development. It is an important term for judging a country or region's development.

The term typically refers to the technical structures that support a society, such as roads, bridges, water supply, sewers, electrical grids, telecommunications, and so forth, and can be defined as "the physical components of interrelated systems providing commodities and services essential to enable, sustain, or enhance societal living conditions."

Viewed functionally, infrastructure facilitates the production of goods and services, and also the distribution of finished products to markets, as well as basic social services such as schools and hospitals; for example, roads enable the transport of raw materials to a factory. In military parlance, the term refers to the buildings and permanent installations necessary for the support, redeployment, and operation of military forces.



And highway and especially bridges need to be RE-built, updated and expanded as population grows. Any area where there is gridlock is in need of updating. Gridlock COSTS everyone money. Not just wasted fuel, but wasted time and a drag on commerce. Every hour a semi filled with goods sits on a highway, the COST of those goods goes UP.

So you plagiarized a definition and want to claim an argument.
Where are these highways that need to be built? Why didn teh stimulus build them? What water supplies need to be built? Where are these? Do you know what you're talking about or just spewing shit? I knwo the answer to that one.

There is no plagiarism. I provided a link asshole.

HELLO? It anyone home? maybe if I repeat it multiple times it will penetrate your thick skull...

Any area where there is gridlock is in need of updating. Gridlock COSTS everyone money. Not just wasted fuel, but wasted time and a drag on commerce. Every hour a semi filled with goods sits on a highway, the COST of those goods goes UP.

Any area where there is gridlock is in need of updating. Gridlock COSTS everyone money. Not just wasted fuel, but wasted time and a drag on commerce. Every hour a semi filled with goods sits on a highway, the COST of those goods goes UP.

Any area where there is gridlock is in need of updating. Gridlock COSTS everyone money. Not just wasted fuel, but wasted time and a drag on commerce. Every hour a semi filled with goods sits on a highway, the COST of those goods goes UP.

There was no link.
And there are no specifics.
ANd you give one example where infrastructure spending might add some value, but it pales in comparison to completed projects, like the GW Bridge from NYC to NJ.
So we are left with what usually happens to "infrastructure spending": Bridges to nowhere and airports like this one:Welcome to the Airport for Nobody - ABC News

 

[Oldstyle]

Please show me all teh bridges in Ohio about to crumble. Then you can explain why the stimulus didnt pay to repair any of them. Oh yeah, you can also explain how an existing bridge hasnt been built.

you're a dunce. In a nation with a population growing at about ~9% per decade and technology advancing as fast as it is just saying "everything needed has been built" is just so....so....SO dumb. Really, just stop.

My question would be why the money isn't there already to repair those bridges in Ohio? We've been paying taxes on every gallon of gas or set of tires we buy and that is earmarked for the upkeep of our highways...so where did that money go to? The simple answer is that our elected officials stole the money out of THAT fund to pay for things elsewhere that they didn't have the balls to fund through another tax but wanted anyways! So they can SAY that they didn't raise taxes...which is technically true...but only because they stole the money that they spent from the highway repair fund and now we need to find billions of dollars to fix infrastructure! If someone did this in the private sector they'd go to prison.

 

[Indeependent]

I agree with Bush92 but occupied matches reality.

I'm sorry........what?

Are you admitting to ditching reality in favor of an argument that does not match reality?

I should have said I agree with Bush92's Theory, but theories don't put food on the table.

 

[Clementine]

QUOTE="Bush92, post: 9718152, member: 49214"]If we could create more blue collar jobs for people, then they will take out home loans, truck notes, buy lawn mowers, washers and dryers, invest in kids college funds...it's a win-win situation. We must stop allowing China to manipulate currency and dump their goods on our market. Wal-Mart and dollar stores need a rude awakening.[/QUOTE]

What would help is if people were informed consumers. People buy the stuff from Walmart because it's cheaper. Companies stay in business because the people keep them in business. I look for American made products, something that seems to get tougher all the time.

If more people refused to buy their crap, things would change. I don't think people realize the power they have with their little paychecks. Even in Walmart, you can find American made items, but you have to look. Sometimes they are even cheaper than the shit made in China. Just saying, it pays to read labels, but so many people don't even think about it. There are tons of sites that list items manufactured here in the states. Everyone, take the time to look if you care and pass it along.

 

[Oldstyle]

I agree with Bush92 but occupied matches reality.

I'm sorry........what?

Are you admitting to ditching reality in favor of an argument that does not match reality?

I should have said I agree with Bush92's Theory, but theories don't put food on the table.

They do if you're a college professor!

 

[Bfgrn]

Obama s stimulus package 5 years later Dems defend Republicans ridicule - Washington Times
When are liberals going to understand that spending taxpayers money on public works projects is not the answer to our economy. These are short term boondoggles that go to Congressional districts where senior Democrats have the seat. Conservatives, however, must get off the income tax cut trip that they are on. We do not manufacture big ticket items in America anymore. If an individual gets a tax rebate and goes out and buys a washing machine, refrigerator, microwave, television, computer, etc. it stimulates the Chinese economy when factory orders go up. JFK's tax cut of 1962 was a success because orders went up for American factories due to the fact these big ticket consumer items were manufactured in the USA.

Public works projects and infrastructure spending is NOT short term. Tax cuts are short term.

Yes it is. The spending for the project ends. And depending on what it is you are left with a white elephant and nothing more.
How many airports to nowhere do we need? What economic value do they provide?
Libs are incapable of thinking beyond Stage One.

Holy fuck. Is there anyone who is more stupid then you? Infrastructure is the foundation of COMMERCE. It is what separates first world nations from third world jungles.

Hey MORON...if it takes a week to deliver goods and produce to your local market, vs one day, which goods and produce will have a HIGHER cost to the end user?

So tell me pea brain...what economic value does commerce have?

What a fucking dipshit you are.
What is "infrastructure"? Do you mean highways? Yeah, those have been built.Bridges? ALready built. Most of the infrastructure that is economically useful has already been built. Building bridges to nowhere and airports that service no one is not economically useful. Please tell me you understand this concept: that not all infrastructure projects offer return on their investment. Please.

More than just highways and bridges.

Infrastructure refers to the basic physical and organizational structures needed for the operation of a society or enterprise or the services and facilities necessary for an economy to function. It can be generally defined as the set of interconnected structural elements that provide a framework supporting an entire structure of development. It is an important term for judging a country or region's development.

The term typically refers to the technical structures that support a society, such as roads, bridges, water supply, sewers, electrical grids, telecommunications, and so forth, and can be defined as "the physical components of interrelated systems providing commodities and services essential to enable, sustain, or enhance societal living conditions."

Viewed functionally, infrastructure facilitates the production of goods and services, and also the distribution of finished products to markets, as well as basic social services such as schools and hospitals; for example, roads enable the transport of raw materials to a factory. In military parlance, the term refers to the buildings and permanent installations necessary for the support, redeployment, and operation of military forces.



And highway and especially bridges need to be RE-built, updated and expanded as population grows. Any area where there is gridlock is in need of updating. Gridlock COSTS everyone money. Not just wasted fuel, but wasted time and a drag on commerce. Every hour a semi filled with goods sits on a highway, the COST of those goods goes UP.

So you plagiarized a definition and want to claim an argument.
Where are these highways that need to be built? Why didn teh stimulus build them? What water supplies need to be built? Where are these? Do you know what you're talking about or just spewing shit? I knwo the answer to that one.

Obama s stimulus package 5 years later Dems defend Republicans ridicule - Washington Times
When are liberals going to understand that spending taxpayers money on public works projects is not the answer to our economy. These are short term boondoggles that go to Congressional districts where senior Democrats have the seat. Conservatives, however, must get off the income tax cut trip that they are on. We do not manufacture big ticket items in America anymore. If an individual gets a tax rebate and goes out and buys a washing machine, refrigerator, microwave, television, computer, etc. it stimulates the Chinese economy when factory orders go up. JFK's tax cut of 1962 was a success because orders went up for American factories due to the fact these big ticket consumer items were manufactured in the USA.

Public works projects and infrastructure spending is NOT short term. Tax cuts are short term.

Yes it is. The spending for the project ends. And depending on what it is you are left with a white elephant and nothing more.
How many airports to nowhere do we need? What economic value do they provide?
Libs are incapable of thinking beyond Stage One.

Holy fuck. Is there anyone who is more stupid then you? Infrastructure is the foundation of COMMERCE. It is what separates first world nations from third world jungles.

Hey MORON...if it takes a week to deliver goods and produce to your local market, vs one day, which goods and produce will have a HIGHER cost to the end user?

So tell me pea brain...what economic value does commerce have?

What a fucking dipshit you are.
What is "infrastructure"? Do you mean highways? Yeah, those have been built.Bridges? ALready built. Most of the infrastructure that is economically useful has already been built. Building bridges to nowhere and airports that service no one is not economically useful. Please tell me you understand this concept: that not all infrastructure projects offer return on their investment. Please.

More than just highways and bridges.

Infrastructure refers to the basic physical and organizational structures needed for the operation of a society or enterprise or the services and facilities necessary for an economy to function. It can be generally defined as the set of interconnected structural elements that provide a framework supporting an entire structure of development. It is an important term for judging a country or region's development.

The term typically refers to the technical structures that support a society, such as roads, bridges, water supply, sewers, electrical grids, telecommunications, and so forth, and can be defined as "the physical components of interrelated systems providing commodities and services essential to enable, sustain, or enhance societal living conditions."

Viewed functionally, infrastructure facilitates the production of goods and services, and also the distribution of finished products to markets, as well as basic social services such as schools and hospitals; for example, roads enable the transport of raw materials to a factory. In military parlance, the term refers to the buildings and permanent installations necessary for the support, redeployment, and operation of military forces.



And highway and especially bridges need to be RE-built, updated and expanded as population grows. Any area where there is gridlock is in need of updating. Gridlock COSTS everyone money. Not just wasted fuel, but wasted time and a drag on commerce. Every hour a semi filled with goods sits on a highway, the COST of those goods goes UP.

So you plagiarized a definition and want to claim an argument.
Where are these highways that need to be built? Why didn teh stimulus build them? What water supplies need to be built? Where are these? Do you know what you're talking about or just spewing shit? I knwo the answer to that one.

Obama s stimulus package 5 years later Dems defend Republicans ridicule - Washington Times
When are liberals going to understand that spending taxpayers money on public works projects is not the answer to our economy. These are short term boondoggles that go to Congressional districts where senior Democrats have the seat. Conservatives, however, must get off the income tax cut trip that they are on. We do not manufacture big ticket items in America anymore. If an individual gets a tax rebate and goes out and buys a washing machine, refrigerator, microwave, television, computer, etc. it stimulates the Chinese economy when factory orders go up. JFK's tax cut of 1962 was a success because orders went up for American factories due to the fact these big ticket consumer items were manufactured in the USA.

Public works projects and infrastructure spending is NOT short term. Tax cuts are short term.

Yes it is. The spending for the project ends. And depending on what it is you are left with a white elephant and nothing more.
How many airports to nowhere do we need? What economic value do they provide?
Libs are incapable of thinking beyond Stage One.

Holy fuck. Is there anyone who is more stupid then you? Infrastructure is the foundation of COMMERCE. It is what separates first world nations from third world jungles.

Hey MORON...if it takes a week to deliver goods and produce to your local market, vs one day, which goods and produce will have a HIGHER cost to the end user?

So tell me pea brain...what economic value does commerce have?

What a fucking dipshit you are.
What is "infrastructure"? Do you mean highways? Yeah, those have been built.Bridges? ALready built. Most of the infrastructure that is economically useful has already been built. Building bridges to nowhere and airports that service no one is not economically useful. Please tell me you understand this concept: that not all infrastructure projects offer return on their investment. Please.

More than just highways and bridges.

Infrastructure refers to the basic physical and organizational structures needed for the operation of a society or enterprise or the services and facilities necessary for an economy to function. It can be generally defined as the set of interconnected structural elements that provide a framework supporting an entire structure of development. It is an important term for judging a country or region's development.

The term typically refers to the technical structures that support a society, such as roads, bridges, water supply, sewers, electrical grids, telecommunications, and so forth, and can be defined as "the physical components of interrelated systems providing commodities and services essential to enable, sustain, or enhance societal living conditions."

Viewed functionally, infrastructure facilitates the production of goods and services, and also the distribution of finished products to markets, as well as basic social services such as schools and hospitals; for example, roads enable the transport of raw materials to a factory. In military parlance, the term refers to the buildings and permanent installations necessary for the support, redeployment, and operation of military forces.



And highway and especially bridges need to be RE-built, updated and expanded as population grows. Any area where there is gridlock is in need of updating. Gridlock COSTS everyone money. Not just wasted fuel, but wasted time and a drag on commerce. Every hour a semi filled with goods sits on a highway, the COST of those goods goes UP.

So you plagiarized a definition and want to claim an argument.
Where are these highways that need to be built? Why didn teh stimulus build them? What water supplies need to be built? Where are these? Do you know what you're talking about or just spewing shit? I knwo the answer to that one.

There is no plagiarism. I provided a link asshole.

HELLO? It anyone home? maybe if I repeat it multiple times it will penetrate your thick skull...

Any area where there is gridlock is in need of updating. Gridlock COSTS everyone money. Not just wasted fuel, but wasted time and a drag on commerce. Every hour a semi filled with goods sits on a highway, the COST of those goods goes UP.

Any area where there is gridlock is in need of updating. Gridlock COSTS everyone money. Not just wasted fuel, but wasted time and a drag on commerce. Every hour a semi filled with goods sits on a highway, the COST of those goods goes UP.

Any area where there is gridlock is in need of updating. Gridlock COSTS everyone money. Not just wasted fuel, but wasted time and a drag on commerce. Every hour a semi filled with goods sits on a highway, the COST of those goods goes UP.

There was no link.
And there are no specifics.
ANd you give one example where infrastructure spending might add some value, but it pales in comparison to completed projects, like the GW Bridge from NYC to NJ.
So we are left with what usually happens to "infrastructure spending": Bridges to nowhere and airports like this one:Welcome to the Airport for Nobody - ABC News

There IS a link. Click on Infrastructure pea brain. There will always be stupid projects like Murtha's airport and Sarah Palin's 'bridge to nowhere'. But the vast majority goes to useful projects. You just don't understand commerce and the inter-relationship of infrastructure. It is no surprise, because 'stupid' is who and what you are..

Palin backed bridge to nowhere in 2006 - USATODAY.com

 

[The Rabbi]

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There IS a link. Click on Infrastructure pea brain. There will always be stupid projects like Murtha's airport and Sarah Palin's 'bridge to nowhere'. But the vast majority goes to useful projects. You just don't understand commerce and the inter-relationship of infrastructure. It is no surprise, because 'stupid' is who and what you are..

Palin backed bridge to nowhere in 2006 - USATODAY.com

More unsubstantiated crap. The stimulus provided billions for "infrastructure", so where is it? Oh yeah,
Senator questions stimulus projects - politics - Capitol Hill NBC News
Skateboard parks. There's a real job creator.
So we can ask, why are they spending money on crap like that? Answer: all the really economically useful projects have been done already. That leaves at best marginally productive projects amidst a wash of white elephants.
No, infrastructure spending does not stimulate the economy and it ends it pretty quickly. The point is made.

 

[Billy000]

Obama s stimulus package 5 years later Dems defend Republicans ridicule - Washington Times
When are liberals going to understand that spending taxpayers money on public works projects is not the answer to our economy. These are short term boondoggles that go to Congressional districts where senior Democrats have the seat. Conservatives, however, must get off the income tax cut trip that they are on. We do not manufacture big ticket items in America anymore. If an individual gets a tax rebate and goes out and buys a washing machine, refrigerator, microwave, television, computer, etc. it stimulates the Chinese economy when factory orders go up. JFK's tax cut of 1962 was a success because orders went up for American factories due to the fact these big ticket consumer items were manufactured in the USA.

According to the CBO, his stimulus created almost 3 million jobs still existing today. It also rescued the economy. We were losing 500,000+ jobs a month. When the stimulus came to pass, that free fall began to level out and jobs began to gain.

 

[The Rabbi]

Obama s stimulus package 5 years later Dems defend Republicans ridicule - Washington Times
When are liberals going to understand that spending taxpayers money on public works projects is not the answer to our economy. These are short term boondoggles that go to Congressional districts where senior Democrats have the seat. Conservatives, however, must get off the income tax cut trip that they are on. We do not manufacture big ticket items in America anymore. If an individual gets a tax rebate and goes out and buys a washing machine, refrigerator, microwave, television, computer, etc. it stimulates the Chinese economy when factory orders go up. JFK's tax cut of 1962 was a success because orders went up for American factories due to the fact these big ticket consumer items were manufactured in the USA.

According to the CBO, his stimulus created almost 3 million jobs still existing today. It also rescued the economy. We were losing 500,000+ jobs a month. When the stimulus came to pass, that free fall began to level out and jobs began to gain.

Billy Triple Zero, that statement has been debunked about 100 times since you first started posting it. And yet you continue to mouth it. What gives? Are you stupid? BRainwashed?

 

[Bfgrn]

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There IS a link. Click on Infrastructure pea brain. There will always be stupid projects like Murtha's airport and Sarah Palin's 'bridge to nowhere'. But the vast majority goes to useful projects. You just don't understand commerce and the inter-relationship of infrastructure. It is no surprise, because 'stupid' is who and what you are..

Palin backed bridge to nowhere in 2006 - USATODAY.com

More unsubstantiated crap. The stimulus provided billions for "infrastructure", so where is it? Oh yeah,
Senator questions stimulus projects - politics - Capitol Hill NBC News
Skateboard parks. There's a real job creator.
So we can ask, why are they spending money on crap like that? Answer: all the really economically useful projects have been done already. That leaves at best marginally productive projects amidst a wash of white elephants.
No, infrastructure spending does not stimulate the economy and it ends it pretty quickly. The point is made.

SO, there is no gridlock anywhere in America, huh pea brain?

You really only have one problem. You ARE stupid.

‘Everything people think they know about the stimulus is wrong’

Everything people think they know about the stimulus is wrong. It was called the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act and it did produce a short-term recovery. We dropped 8.9 percent of GDP in Q4 2008. We lost 800,000 jobs in January 2009. We passed the stimulus. And then the next quarter we saw the biggest jobs improvement in 30 years.

The long-term reinvestment part is working. It spent $90 billion for clean energy when we were spending just a few billion a year. It's doubled renewable energy. It's started an electric battery industry from scratch. It jump-started the smart grid. It's bringing our pen-and-paper medical system into the digital age. It's got Race to the Top which is the biggest education program in decades. It's got the biggest middle-class tax cuts since the Reagan era. It prevented seven million people from falling behind the poverty line.

So what they did was [give] aid to states to prevent layoffs, which went out right away. Food stamps to get money into people's pockets. And then other stuff, the infrastructure, the clean energy, the health IT -- that was understood to take longer. But even there, take wind energy, which obviously it takes awhile to get a wind farm going. By the end of 2008, that industry was dead in the water. The day after the stimulus passed, one of the major wind companies, which was pulling out of America entirely, turned around and announced a $6 billion investment in the United States.

Health IT is another example I love. That's one of the few where even they would admit there was no pretense of stimulus. The money didn't go out the door till 2011. But right now, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, health IT is America's fastest growing industry.

EK: One problem for the Obama administration, in my view, is that the stimulus included five or six or arguably even 10 or 12 bills that, if passed on their own, would be major achievements that the administration would be bragging about today. A standalone, $29 billion bill to digitize the country’s medical records is a big deal. A $90 billion investment in jump-starting renewables is a big deal. But because it’s all grouped under “stimulus,” Republicans see those projects as distractions, and most liberals are more focused on the idea that it was too small. So there’s really been no political home for the law.

MG: Most of those 30 bills would have been stuff like health IT and extending unemployment benefits and accountability-based, data-driven education reform and building highways -- those are things that had been bipartisan until January 2009. So was the idea of stimulus. Until January 2009, every Republican and Democratic presidential candidate had a stimulus, and Mitt Romney's was the biggest. House Republicans had an infrastructure stimulus similar to Obama's, and Paul Ryan voted for it. But Republicans made this decision that their path back to power was to oppose everything. There's a fantasy that Obama should have passed, say, a short-term stimulus bill and a long-term stimulus bill. But he probably couldn't have gotten that.

Washington Post

 

[The Rabbi]

You fail to show there is gridlock anywhere. ANd you fail to show there is an economic cost that would be remedied in a cost effective way by govenrment spending. This is typical for you.
The stimulus was a failure. Even by the standards the adminsitration set it failed.

 

[Bfgrn]

Obama s stimulus package 5 years later Dems defend Republicans ridicule - Washington Times
When are liberals going to understand that spending taxpayers money on public works projects is not the answer to our economy. These are short term boondoggles that go to Congressional districts where senior Democrats have the seat. Conservatives, however, must get off the income tax cut trip that they are on. We do not manufacture big ticket items in America anymore. If an individual gets a tax rebate and goes out and buys a washing machine, refrigerator, microwave, television, computer, etc. it stimulates the Chinese economy when factory orders go up. JFK's tax cut of 1962 was a success because orders went up for American factories due to the fact these big ticket consumer items were manufactured in the USA.

According to the CBO, his stimulus created almost 3 million jobs still existing today. It also rescued the economy. We were losing 500,000+ jobs a month. When the stimulus came to pass, that free fall began to level out and jobs began to gain.

Billy Triple Zero, that statement has been debunked about 100 times since you first started posting it. And yet you continue to mouth it. What gives? Are you stupid? BRainwashed?

Bullshit

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[The Rabbi]

Obama s stimulus package 5 years later Dems defend Republicans ridicule - Washington Times
When are liberals going to understand that spending taxpayers money on public works projects is not the answer to our economy. These are short term boondoggles that go to Congressional districts where senior Democrats have the seat. Conservatives, however, must get off the income tax cut trip that they are on. We do not manufacture big ticket items in America anymore. If an individual gets a tax rebate and goes out and buys a washing machine, refrigerator, microwave, television, computer, etc. it stimulates the Chinese economy when factory orders go up. JFK's tax cut of 1962 was a success because orders went up for American factories due to the fact these big ticket consumer items were manufactured in the USA.

According to the CBO, his stimulus created almost 3 million jobs still existing today. It also rescued the economy. We were losing 500,000+ jobs a month. When the stimulus came to pass, that free fall began to level out and jobs began to gain.

Billy Triple Zero, that statement has been debunked about 100 times since you first started posting it. And yet you continue to mouth it. What gives? Are you stupid? BRainwashed?

Bullshit

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You're right. The chart is bullshit.
CBO came to the figure they did by circular reasoning. They assumed gov't spending created jobs. Ergo they plugged in the amount of spending and came out with a jobs number. IT was completely made up. They state this i the paper they published on it.
The economy would have done much better, shown much higher growth without the stimulus.