Kerry to declare himself winner!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ChrisH, Oct 20, 2004.

  1. ChrisH
    Offline

    ChrisH Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2004
    Messages:
    80
    Thanks Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Location:
    Louisiana
    Ratings:
    +17
    John Kerry has said today that he will declare himself winner if he loses in a close election to Bush.

    I don't know about you all, but Kerry says more and more everyday to make me despise him even more. How ridiculous is that statement?
     
  2. nakedemperor
    Offline

    nakedemperor Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2004
    Messages:
    1,437
    Thanks Received:
    150
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    NYC
    Ratings:
    +150
    :link:

    I love that emoticon...look how angry he looks!
     
  3. ChrisH
    Offline

    ChrisH Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2004
    Messages:
    80
    Thanks Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Location:
    Louisiana
    Ratings:
    +17
    I will try to find a link of the story on the internet. I heard it on the news, CNN I believe, this evening.
     
  4. Avatar4321
    Offline

    Avatar4321 Diamond Member Gold Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2004
    Messages:
    70,537
    Thanks Received:
    8,161
    Trophy Points:
    2,070
    Location:
    Minnesota
    Ratings:
    +12,152
  5. Avatar4321
    Offline

    Avatar4321 Diamond Member Gold Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2004
    Messages:
    70,537
    Thanks Received:
    8,161
    Trophy Points:
    2,070
    Location:
    Minnesota
    Ratings:
    +12,152
    Apparently they seem to think Gore's problem was he didnt declare victory. Maybe thats because at no time he was a winner. But no they are under the messed up assumption that Gore won and just didnt declare it.

    I am so ready to see Bush win in a huge landslide and watch Kerry declare victory. The american people will be like what the heck do you think your doing? are you stupid?
     
  6. MJDuncan1982
    Offline

    MJDuncan1982 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2004
    Messages:
    506
    Thanks Received:
    25
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Location:
    Mississippi
    Ratings:
    +25
    That was the problem with Gore. Gore let Bush declare sole victory thus meaning that, barring a recount, Bush won.
     
  7. Zhukov
    Offline

    Zhukov VIP Member

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2003
    Messages:
    3,492
    Thanks Received:
    301
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    Everywhere, simultaneously.
    Ratings:
    +301
    Barring a second, cherry picked, recount you mean.
     
  8. MJDuncan1982
    Offline

    MJDuncan1982 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2004
    Messages:
    506
    Thanks Received:
    25
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Location:
    Mississippi
    Ratings:
    +25
    No, Florida was originally called for Gore. His advisors should have told him to declare victory and then any subsequent changes in the count would be 'against the norm'.
     
  9. Zhukov
    Offline

    Zhukov VIP Member

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2003
    Messages:
    3,492
    Thanks Received:
    301
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    Everywhere, simultaneously.
    Ratings:
    +301
    There was a vote. It was within 1% (in favor of Gov. Bush). That triggered a recount. That narrowed the margin but still favored Gov. Bush. Vice Pres. Gore requested a second recount, by hand, in selected locations.

    Whether or not it was called for Vice Pres. Gore is irrelevant.

    Edit: .5% not 1%
     
  10. ChrisH
    Offline

    ChrisH Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2004
    Messages:
    80
    Thanks Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Location:
    Louisiana
    Ratings:
    +17
    Exactly. Just because the media calls a state as being won by a specific candidate, doesn't mean that candidate can 'declare victory', and after that other votes would be 'against the norm'. If all of the votes are not in, or have not been counted, then they have to be counted and completed before the state can be 'officially' declared.

    I understand the mistake of conceding early, not waiting to see if the state switches from one side to the other, but in 2000 the media prematurely assumed, before all votes were in, that Gore won the state. Considering how close the vote was, this was a blooper by the media. But I don't see how Kerry can just declare himself victor, if the election is close and Bush clearly won the state, all votes in. It sounds like Kerry is ready to drag this thing on after Nov. 2. I hope for this reason that the election is not close and Bush wins, hands down.
     

Share This Page