Kerry and His Ilk

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    My primary reason for opposing democrats, and thus John Kerry, is their
    socialist philosophy. This country has spent billions of dollars and
    sacrificed thousands of lives opposing socialism and its extreme form,
    communism.

    In 1964 I was originally in favor of Lyndon Johnson winning election
    until I read an in-depth article about what Barry Goldwater stood for and
    what Johnson was all about, his socialist Great Society. I have not
    voted for a democrat for president since becoming eligible to vote in the
    1968 election.

    You have to understand that democrats in the modern era (since Kennedy)
    have opposed military action by the United States and supported cuts in
    the defense buget because it deprives them of being able to fund more
    socialist programs to get people dependent upon government, and thus
    dependent upon them. This is where they get their power and retain it.
    Therefore, a party and their candidates' philosophy is very important to
    me. When they oppose a necessary military action I know why. When they
    try to expand socialist programs I know why. When they oppose tax cuts
    or support tax increases I know why.

    Knowing why puts a lot of things in perspective. Flip-flops, other
    proposals during campaigns don't really mean much. Understanding a party's
    and candidates's philosophy of government means just about everything!
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    I would agree with you if party members were consistant with a philosophy. The truth is that for many years, many democrats and republicans could easily switch seats, with no noticeable change in votes. However, Kerry is at the extreme left of the Democrats. GW is mostly a centrist GOP, though I'm sure he would argue that.
     
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    Most of the far left would too. they think he is an evil right wing conservative. I think that comes from the fact that they really dont know where the center is. they think the center is on the left which if you look at it that way then the President is far right. but i think the center is more to the right. because we as a party fight the extremists on both sides.
     
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    My observations have been over many years that the basic philosophy of the Democrat Party has been, and still is, to try and solve people's problems by making them permanently dependent upon government while the Republican Party tries to resolve those same problems by creating opportunities for people so they can be free to make their own choices. It is the old feed a man a fish......or teach him how to fish analogy. Satisfaction and enjoyment in life comes from knowing how to fish!
     
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    Yes us republicans have the philosphy "Build a man a fire he will be warm for a day, light a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life"
     
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    On that, I can basically agree. The Dems seem to want people dependent on the government, thus consolidating their power. However, there are quite a few Dems, that do not fit this model, many from the South, of which Zell Miller has more or less been symbolic of. That isn't to say they never vote for government expanding programs, but they are 'centrists'. Bush has put through the pharmacy bill and NCLB, not exactly 'Conservative.' :dunno:
     
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    yeah they arent the most conservative moves but he did campaign on them though so its not like we should be complaining that he is doing what he promised to do. As long as conservatives grow in power in the House and Senate i think we will see alot of these programs reformed or abolished though.
     
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    Oh I agree, he did campaign on them and he won the primary. Between him and Gore, well no contest. Now it's GW and Kerry, easier than before. Kerry is worse than Gore, at least 2000 Gore. Bush has changed, fundamentally since 9/11, choice is clear.
     
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    I agree. its clear to everyone who isnt blinded by rage. which i dont think is going to be many people when this is over.
     
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    One of things that has been virtually overlooked in this campaign has been the impact on the courts if Kerry is elected. The dems for decades have been stuffing the courts with socialist leaning judges. They have approved through the judiciary laws that the dems could not get enacted as they should be, by the legislative branch. The courts have become a governing body by fiat and thus have created a tyranny whereby laws are being imposed by unelected individuals, from which there is no recourse, ecept to amend the Constitution.
    Mr. Kerry will only perpetuate this by nominations he is sure to make to fill vacancies coming up in the Supreme Court and the lower courts.

    This is a very important issue, and I hope the Bush campaign will bring it up before election day. This unholy alliance between the dems and their agenda and the courts has got to come to an end. It is every bit as important an issue as the R's keeping control of the Congress!
     

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