Kentucky is first state to add medicaid work requirement

[danielpalos]

No, we don't.

Sure we do. Everyone who gets laid off from a job can get unemployment. What you want is welfare. It's really just that simple.

welfare is more expensive than unemployment; only the right wing never gets it--we could be lowering our costs through more efficient public policies.

Getting paid to not work is welfare. Calling it by a different name doesn't change its cost.

this is why nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics.

We are seeking gains from efficiency.

Unemployment compensation is simply more cost effective.

It costs less because it's restricted to only those who lost their jobs through no fault of their own. Open it up to every deadbeat who wants to get paid but not work and the costs explode. Naturally, you want to call it UE because that way you can hide the true cost, but it's welfare.

Simply finding fault means for-cause employment; EDD has to prove for-cause employment. The right wing merely loves to "cut costs" by appealing to ignorance of the law in regard to the poor.

 

[hadit]

Sure we do. Everyone who gets laid off from a job can get unemployment. What you want is welfare. It's really just that simple.

welfare is more expensive than unemployment; only the right wing never gets it--we could be lowering our costs through more efficient public policies.

Getting paid to not work is welfare. Calling it by a different name doesn't change its cost.

this is why nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics.

We are seeking gains from efficiency.

Unemployment compensation is simply more cost effective.

It costs less because it's restricted to only those who lost their jobs through no fault of their own. Open it up to every deadbeat who wants to get paid but not work and the costs explode. Naturally, you want to call it UE because that way you can hide the true cost, but it's welfare.

Simply finding fault means for-cause employment; EDD has to prove for-cause employment. The right wing merely loves to "cut costs" by appealing to ignorance of the law in regard to the poor.

You want non means tested welfare. That's the bottom line. You just don't want to call it that.

 

[danielpalos]

welfare is more expensive than unemployment; only the right wing never gets it--we could be lowering our costs through more efficient public policies.

Getting paid to not work is welfare. Calling it by a different name doesn't change its cost.

this is why nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics.

We are seeking gains from efficiency.

Unemployment compensation is simply more cost effective.

It costs less because it's restricted to only those who lost their jobs through no fault of their own. Open it up to every deadbeat who wants to get paid but not work and the costs explode. Naturally, you want to call it UE because that way you can hide the true cost, but it's welfare.

Simply finding fault means for-cause employment; EDD has to prove for-cause employment. The right wing merely loves to "cut costs" by appealing to ignorance of the law in regard to the poor.

You want non means tested welfare. That's the bottom line. You just don't want to call it that.

because means testing has a purpose. unemployment compensation is simply that; compensation for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment.

 

[hadit]

Getting paid to not work is welfare. Calling it by a different name doesn't change its cost.

this is why nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics.

We are seeking gains from efficiency.

Unemployment compensation is simply more cost effective.

It costs less because it's restricted to only those who lost their jobs through no fault of their own. Open it up to every deadbeat who wants to get paid but not work and the costs explode. Naturally, you want to call it UE because that way you can hide the true cost, but it's welfare.

Simply finding fault means for-cause employment; EDD has to prove for-cause employment. The right wing merely loves to "cut costs" by appealing to ignorance of the law in regard to the poor.

You want non means tested welfare. That's the bottom line. You just don't want to call it that.

because means testing has a purpose. unemployment compensation is simply that; compensation for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment.

That's not what it is. That's what you WISH it was, but it's not.

 

[danielpalos]

this is why nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics.

We are seeking gains from efficiency.

Unemployment compensation is simply more cost effective.

It costs less because it's restricted to only those who lost their jobs through no fault of their own. Open it up to every deadbeat who wants to get paid but not work and the costs explode. Naturally, you want to call it UE because that way you can hide the true cost, but it's welfare.

Simply finding fault means for-cause employment; EDD has to prove for-cause employment. The right wing merely loves to "cut costs" by appealing to ignorance of the law in regard to the poor.

You want non means tested welfare. That's the bottom line. You just don't want to call it that.

because means testing has a purpose. unemployment compensation is simply that; compensation for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment.

That's not what it is. That's what you WISH it was, but it's not.

That is what it means; it is Institutional, not Individual.

 

[hadit]

It costs less because it's restricted to only those who lost their jobs through no fault of their own. Open it up to every deadbeat who wants to get paid but not work and the costs explode. Naturally, you want to call it UE because that way you can hide the true cost, but it's welfare.

Simply finding fault means for-cause employment; EDD has to prove for-cause employment. The right wing merely loves to "cut costs" by appealing to ignorance of the law in regard to the poor.

You want non means tested welfare. That's the bottom line. You just don't want to call it that.

because means testing has a purpose. unemployment compensation is simply that; compensation for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment.

That's not what it is. That's what you WISH it was, but it's not.

That is what it means; it is Institutional, not Individual.

Again, you just keep repeating the same failed opinions and excuses over and over and getting the same result. You want welfare, not UE. UE is designed to carry a worker who lost his job through no fault of his own until the next job. That's it. There's nothing more than that, no matter how hard you wish there was, no matter how many times you repeat the same crap, it's not going to mean anything more. You want welfare, to be paid even though you didn't work in the first place.

That's the bottom line.

 

[danielpalos]

Simply finding fault means for-cause employment; EDD has to prove for-cause employment. The right wing merely loves to "cut costs" by appealing to ignorance of the law in regard to the poor.

You want non means tested welfare. That's the bottom line. You just don't want to call it that.

because means testing has a purpose. unemployment compensation is simply that; compensation for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment.

That's not what it is. That's what you WISH it was, but it's not.

That is what it means; it is Institutional, not Individual.

Again, you just keep repeating the same failed opinions and excuses over and over and getting the same result. You want welfare, not UE. UE is designed to carry a worker who lost his job through no fault of his own until the next job. That's it. There's nothing more than that, no matter how hard you wish there was, no matter how many times you repeat the same crap, it's not going to mean anything more. You want welfare, to be paid even though you didn't work in the first place.

That's the bottom line.

The point is our legislators have no authority to deny or disparage persons in their natural and civil rights.

 

[hadit]

You want non means tested welfare. That's the bottom line. You just don't want to call it that.

because means testing has a purpose. unemployment compensation is simply that; compensation for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment.

That's not what it is. That's what you WISH it was, but it's not.

That is what it means; it is Institutional, not Individual.

Again, you just keep repeating the same failed opinions and excuses over and over and getting the same result. You want welfare, not UE. UE is designed to carry a worker who lost his job through no fault of his own until the next job. That's it. There's nothing more than that, no matter how hard you wish there was, no matter how many times you repeat the same crap, it's not going to mean anything more. You want welfare, to be paid even though you didn't work in the first place.

That's the bottom line.

The point is our legislators have no authority to deny or disparage persons in their natural and civil rights.

Which has nothing to do with UE.

 

[danielpalos]

because means testing has a purpose. unemployment compensation is simply that; compensation for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment.

That's not what it is. That's what you WISH it was, but it's not.

That is what it means; it is Institutional, not Individual.

Again, you just keep repeating the same failed opinions and excuses over and over and getting the same result. You want welfare, not UE. UE is designed to carry a worker who lost his job through no fault of his own until the next job. That's it. There's nothing more than that, no matter how hard you wish there was, no matter how many times you repeat the same crap, it's not going to mean anything more. You want welfare, to be paid even though you didn't work in the first place.

That's the bottom line.

The point is our legislators have no authority to deny or disparage persons in their natural and civil rights.

Which has nothing to do with UE.

equal protection of the law.

 

[hadit]

That's not what it is. That's what you WISH it was, but it's not.

That is what it means; it is Institutional, not Individual.

Again, you just keep repeating the same failed opinions and excuses over and over and getting the same result. You want welfare, not UE. UE is designed to carry a worker who lost his job through no fault of his own until the next job. That's it. There's nothing more than that, no matter how hard you wish there was, no matter how many times you repeat the same crap, it's not going to mean anything more. You want welfare, to be paid even though you didn't work in the first place.

That's the bottom line.

The point is our legislators have no authority to deny or disparage persons in their natural and civil rights.

Which has nothing to do with UE.

equal protection of the law.

And for the hundredth time, we already have that. Everyone who gets laid off can collect UE. What you want is welfare, NOT UE.

 

[danielpalos]

That is what it means; it is Institutional, not Individual.

Again, you just keep repeating the same failed opinions and excuses over and over and getting the same result. You want welfare, not UE. UE is designed to carry a worker who lost his job through no fault of his own until the next job. That's it. There's nothing more than that, no matter how hard you wish there was, no matter how many times you repeat the same crap, it's not going to mean anything more. You want welfare, to be paid even though you didn't work in the first place.

That's the bottom line.

The point is our legislators have no authority to deny or disparage persons in their natural and civil rights.

Which has nothing to do with UE.

equal protection of the law.

And for the hundredth time, we already have that. Everyone who gets laid off can collect UE. What you want is welfare, NOT UE.

That is not employment at will.

At-will employment is generally described as follows: "any hiring is presumed to be 'at will'; that is, the employer is free to discharge individuals 'for good cause, or bad cause, or no cause at all,' and the employee is equally free to quit, strike, or otherwise cease work."--https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will_employment

 

[jon_berzerk]

Kentucky to add Medicaid work requirement; first state to follow Trump plan

I have no problem with the work requirement because its not just work but volunteering,going to school etc but seriously getting rid of BASIC dental and vision care is just bullshit. The simple fact is A LOT of lazy ass people will be dumped from medicaid for not doing a simple volunteer work or going to class there is no reason to cut people's dental work and vision services. Tennessee does that shit and its part of the reason I left there. As it is I pay for my glasses but not the vision testing and my kids get it all for free until they are 18. Me and wife both go to school so eventually won't need medicaid but still completely disagree with that. If your goal is to make the people healthier then don't cut BASIC vision and dental!

South Dakota is working on the same here