Keeping guns from criminals - liberals, what is your plan?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by kaz, Sep 20, 2013.

  1. kaz
    Offline

    kaz Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2010
    Messages:
    46,299
    Thanks Received:
    4,705
    Trophy Points:
    1,840
    Location:
    Independence Hall
    Ratings:
    +16,438
    I don't believe that's true anymore. And it's because so many more of the criminals are armed than they used to be.

    We're following Europe in becoming socialist.

    As their populations become more ethnically and culturally diverse, guns are becoming more widespread and gun violence is rising as well
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  2. MikeK
    Online

    MikeK Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2010
    Messages:
    14,596
    Thanks Received:
    2,209
    Trophy Points:
    255
    Location:
    Brick, New Jersey
    Ratings:
    +4,708
    I love that, too. Living in New Jersey, which has some of the most repressive gun laws in the U.S., I envy your new freedom. The question I have is will those who now intend to carry be required to have some minimal level of training. Because if not there surely will be problems.

    I'm not talking about how to shoot but when to shoot.
     
  3. KissMy
    Offline

    KissMy Free Breast Exam

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2009
    Messages:
    12,586
    Thanks Received:
    2,205
    Trophy Points:
    255
    Location:
    In your head
    Ratings:
    +3,162
    Armed crazies & criminals are also infringing on my rights & freedoms. I have been held at gunpoint & nearly shot 6 times. My Best friend has had the same 3 times. These criminals need to be stopped. It can't be done by being armed alone, In every instance the criminal had the drop on us before we knew what was happening. Being armed would not have prevented any of them. I may have been able to do something afterwards with a gun, but that also may not have gone well. Background checks prevented 152,850 crazies & criminals from buying a gun in 2010 alone. The real problem is few of those are arrested & prosecuted.

    If a few neighbors, friends & family are not honest when reporting someone causing them to lose their gun rights, they can remedy it with investigating, testing or courts. To many mass killers were known to be wacko, prior to committing murders, but nothing could be done, because we protected their rights more strongly than those lives that were taken.

    There will never be enough police to stop criminals. The people must have easy access to the list of crazies to keep an eye on them, so they can't infringe on my life, liberty, property, freedom & pursuit of happiness. We already publish list of sex offenders. It's high time to do the same for Terrorist, Crazies & Criminals.
     
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2016
  4. KissMy
    Offline

    KissMy Free Breast Exam

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2009
    Messages:
    12,586
    Thanks Received:
    2,205
    Trophy Points:
    255
    Location:
    In your head
    Ratings:
    +3,162
    It seems there will not be any required training. It was like that here in Missouri rural area where I grew up back before Brady bill & all the new laws. It seemed like shootings per capita were high out there. I was nearly shot & held at gunpoint 3 times back then. I Mostly live in St. Louis now but it still happens here with current laws, but the per capita rate is now less.
     
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2016
  5. MikeK
    Online

    MikeK Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2010
    Messages:
    14,596
    Thanks Received:
    2,209
    Trophy Points:
    255
    Location:
    Brick, New Jersey
    Ratings:
    +4,708
    Yours is an exceptional situation so you obviously need more than a gun.

    Since you obviously live in a lawless region what is needed are armed citizen vigilante groups to conduct decoy operations and start killing those bastards off. But a major problem today rests with the police who can't eliminate the armed criminals but who won't hesitate to arrest armed citizens who "take the law into their own hands."

    Not as individuals within the highly unusual situation you've described. You need to organize and train vigilante strike groups to put the fear of God into the gangs. But to do that you will need the quiet, unspoken cooperation of the police.

    You don't know that every one of those 152,850 individuals whose background checks disqualified them are crazy or criminally inclined. But you may rest assured that a substantial percentage of those who are crazy or outlaws and who cannot obtain a gun legally will get what they want on the black market.

    If the currently repressive gun laws were never enacted the vast majority of violent criminals and dangerous crazies would have been eliminated by now. Repressive gun laws have protected the crazies and the criminals from decent, law-abiding, armed citizens.

    Repressive gun laws accommodate the armed criminal element.
     
  6. KissMy
    Offline

    KissMy Free Breast Exam

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2009
    Messages:
    12,586
    Thanks Received:
    2,205
    Trophy Points:
    255
    Location:
    In your head
    Ratings:
    +3,162
    Here a few miles from Ferguson MO is not a lawless region. We have to use all opportunities to stop armed thugs. To many are allowed to slip through the system with all these rights.

    We try like hell here. Every one of those Ferguson riot thugs brought before the grand jury got indicted. We have to allow citizens tools like list to better monitor them & make it easier to take their gun rights even if only temporary.
     
  7. KissMy
    Offline

    KissMy Free Breast Exam

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2009
    Messages:
    12,586
    Thanks Received:
    2,205
    Trophy Points:
    255
    Location:
    In your head
    Ratings:
    +3,162
    Stop & Frisk is useless if everyone has the right to carry.
     
  8. MikeK
    Online

    MikeK Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2010
    Messages:
    14,596
    Thanks Received:
    2,209
    Trophy Points:
    255
    Location:
    Brick, New Jersey
    Ratings:
    +4,708
    If you take away a determined criminals gun rights he will laugh in your face and buy an illegal gun. The only viable solution to the armed criminal problem in a democratic society is to increase the number of armed law-abiding citizens.

    We Americans have been too damn conditioned to the notion that the police will protect us from everything, which we're beginning to see is not the case. We need to start protecting ourselves from the violence-prone "knockout" artists who are taking over our streets -- along with the coming plague of violence-prone Muslim refugees. And the way to do that is to do away with the repressive CCW laws. We need more armed law-abiding citizens on the streets, protecting themselves and others who are not as capable.

    I need the cops to watch my house when I'm not home and things of that nature. As far as my presence on the streets, as long as I'm armed I am quite capable of protecting myself. I don't need cops for that. All I need is a 2" .357 revolver.
     
  9. KissMy
    Offline

    KissMy Free Breast Exam

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2009
    Messages:
    12,586
    Thanks Received:
    2,205
    Trophy Points:
    255
    Location:
    In your head
    Ratings:
    +3,162
    You have obviously never been shot at or held at gunpoint. It's nothing like TV.
     
  10. MikeK
    Online

    MikeK Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2010
    Messages:
    14,596
    Thanks Received:
    2,209
    Trophy Points:
    255
    Location:
    Brick, New Jersey
    Ratings:
    +4,708
    Really?

    What makes it so obvious to you?
     

Share This Page

Search tags for this page

content