Keep names of execution drug providers public

[Disir]

Open government suffered a defeat Monday when the Texas Senate approved a bill that would keep secret the source of the drug the state uses in lethal injections.

Should it become law, Senate Bill 1697, proposed by Republican state Sen. Joan Huffman of Houston, would culminate a push by state officials to hide the identities of drug suppliers from the public. Huffman, a former prosecutor and state judge, says SB 1697 is needed to protect suppliers of the state’s execution drug from harassment and threats
Such frequently repeated fears are grounded more in protecting suppliers from controversy than threats while ensuring the state’s ability to carry out the death penalty as it struggles to keep its supply of pentobarbital, the sedative it uses in lethal injections, replenished. There’s no compelling reason why the state should conceal information about its supply of pentobarbital or ignore death row inmates’ constitutional protections.
Keep names of execution drug providers public www.mystatesman.com

I have never seen anything so ignorant in my life. Fire Huffman.

 

[martybegan]

Open government suffered a defeat Monday when the Texas Senate approved a bill that would keep secret the source of the drug the state uses in lethal injections.

Should it become law, Senate Bill 1697, proposed by Republican state Sen. Joan Huffman of Houston, would culminate a push by state officials to hide the identities of drug suppliers from the public. Huffman, a former prosecutor and state judge, says SB 1697 is needed to protect suppliers of the state’s execution drug from harassment and threats
Such frequently repeated fears are grounded more in protecting suppliers from controversy than threats while ensuring the state’s ability to carry out the death penalty as it struggles to keep its supply of pentobarbital, the sedative it uses in lethal injections, replenished. There’s no compelling reason why the state should conceal information about its supply of pentobarbital or ignore death row inmates’ constitutional protections.
Keep names of execution drug providers public www.mystatesman.com

I have never seen anything so ignorant in my life. Fire Huffman.

When foreign countries try to impact State policies, this is the end result. The problem is other governments forcing companies to not supply the drugs needed. Now, the local suppliers can provide the drugs without worrying about being shut out by the manufacturers.

 

[Disir]

Fire her.

 

[martybegan]

Fire her.

No, this is in response to extortion by outside parties to prevent lawful executions. Personally I would return to hangings, as the Rope trade is harder to manipulate.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Open government suffered a defeat Monday when the Texas Senate approved a bill that would keep secret the source of the drug the state uses in lethal injections.

Should it become law, Senate Bill 1697, proposed by Republican state Sen. Joan Huffman of Houston, would culminate a push by state officials to hide the identities of drug suppliers from the public. Huffman, a former prosecutor and state judge, says SB 1697 is needed to protect suppliers of the state’s execution drug from harassment and threats
Such frequently repeated fears are grounded more in protecting suppliers from controversy than threats while ensuring the state’s ability to carry out the death penalty as it struggles to keep its supply of pentobarbital, the sedative it uses in lethal injections, replenished. There’s no compelling reason why the state should conceal information about its supply of pentobarbital or ignore death row inmates’ constitutional protections.
Keep names of execution drug providers public www.mystatesman.com

I have never seen anything so ignorant in my life. Fire Huffman.

Said it before, and even wrote a state Governor suggesting this idea: use police seized heroin sitting in evidence vaults awaiting incineration if lethal injection drugs are hard to come by and prohibitively expensive.

Not hard to overdose and die from too much heroin. So if you got lots of heroin awaiting destruction anyway, kill two birds with one shot.

 

[Ernie S.]

Open government suffered a defeat Monday when the Texas Senate approved a bill that would keep secret the source of the drug the state uses in lethal injections.

Should it become law, Senate Bill 1697, proposed by Republican state Sen. Joan Huffman of Houston, would culminate a push by state officials to hide the identities of drug suppliers from the public. Huffman, a former prosecutor and state judge, says SB 1697 is needed to protect suppliers of the state’s execution drug from harassment and threats
Such frequently repeated fears are grounded more in protecting suppliers from controversy than threats while ensuring the state’s ability to carry out the death penalty as it struggles to keep its supply of pentobarbital, the sedative it uses in lethal injections, replenished. There’s no compelling reason why the state should conceal information about its supply of pentobarbital or ignore death row inmates’ constitutional protections.
Keep names of execution drug providers public www.mystatesman.com

I have never seen anything so ignorant in my life. Fire Huffman.

OK.... If we're going for openness, how about we also publish the home addresses of abortion doctors?

 

[Disir]

Fire her.

No, this is in response to extortion by outside parties to prevent lawful executions. Personally I would return to hangings, as the Rope trade is harder to manipulate.

You never, ever willingly allow the government to keep contracts from the public. Ever. You damn sure don't pat these clowns on the back to lie there way into it. The companies aren't harassed.

 

[Disir]

Open government suffered a defeat Monday when the Texas Senate approved a bill that would keep secret the source of the drug the state uses in lethal injections.

Should it become law, Senate Bill 1697, proposed by Republican state Sen. Joan Huffman of Houston, would culminate a push by state officials to hide the identities of drug suppliers from the public. Huffman, a former prosecutor and state judge, says SB 1697 is needed to protect suppliers of the state’s execution drug from harassment and threats
Such frequently repeated fears are grounded more in protecting suppliers from controversy than threats while ensuring the state’s ability to carry out the death penalty as it struggles to keep its supply of pentobarbital, the sedative it uses in lethal injections, replenished. There’s no compelling reason why the state should conceal information about its supply of pentobarbital or ignore death row inmates’ constitutional protections.
Keep names of execution drug providers public www.mystatesman.com

I have never seen anything so ignorant in my life. Fire Huffman.

OK.... If we're going for openness, how about we also publish the home addresses of abortion doctors?

So, you can bomb them? You have no evidence that the companies are being harassed. You have prior clinic bombings.

 

[Ernie S.]

Open government suffered a defeat Monday when the Texas Senate approved a bill that would keep secret the source of the drug the state uses in lethal injections.

Should it become law, Senate Bill 1697, proposed by Republican state Sen. Joan Huffman of Houston, would culminate a push by state officials to hide the identities of drug suppliers from the public. Huffman, a former prosecutor and state judge, says SB 1697 is needed to protect suppliers of the state’s execution drug from harassment and threats
Such frequently repeated fears are grounded more in protecting suppliers from controversy than threats while ensuring the state’s ability to carry out the death penalty as it struggles to keep its supply of pentobarbital, the sedative it uses in lethal injections, replenished. There’s no compelling reason why the state should conceal information about its supply of pentobarbital or ignore death row inmates’ constitutional protections.
Keep names of execution drug providers public www.mystatesman.com

I have never seen anything so ignorant in my life. Fire Huffman.

Said it before, and even wrote a state Governor suggesting this idea: use police seized heroin sitting in evidence vaults awaiting incineration if lethal injection drugs are hard to come by and prohibitively expensive.

Not hard to overdose and die from too much heroin. So if you got lots of heroin awaiting destruction anyway, kill two birds with one shot.

Hmmmm. Not a bad idea.

 

[Ernie S.]

Open government suffered a defeat Monday when the Texas Senate approved a bill that would keep secret the source of the drug the state uses in lethal injections.

Should it become law, Senate Bill 1697, proposed by Republican state Sen. Joan Huffman of Houston, would culminate a push by state officials to hide the identities of drug suppliers from the public. Huffman, a former prosecutor and state judge, says SB 1697 is needed to protect suppliers of the state’s execution drug from harassment and threats
Such frequently repeated fears are grounded more in protecting suppliers from controversy than threats while ensuring the state’s ability to carry out the death penalty as it struggles to keep its supply of pentobarbital, the sedative it uses in lethal injections, replenished. There’s no compelling reason why the state should conceal information about its supply of pentobarbital or ignore death row inmates’ constitutional protections.
Keep names of execution drug providers public www.mystatesman.com

I have never seen anything so ignorant in my life. Fire Huffman.

OK.... If we're going for openness, how about we also publish the home addresses of abortion doctors?

So, you can bomb them? You have no evidence that the companies are being harassed. You have prior clinic bombings.

Yup. There are nuts that would bomb, harass or shoot abortionists. There are left handed wingnuts too.

 

[martybegan]

Fire her.

No, this is in response to extortion by outside parties to prevent lawful executions. Personally I would return to hangings, as the Rope trade is harder to manipulate.

You never, ever willingly allow the government to keep contracts from the public. Ever. You damn sure don't pat these clowns on the back to lie there way into it. The companies aren't harassed.

They are prevented from supplying the drugs by their suppliers under pain of being forced out of business. Its a response to an end run campaign to make the death penalty untenable.

We are talking about a few thousand dollars a year, which can be easily tracked and quantified without the companies ID being made public.

 

[Disir]

Open government suffered a defeat Monday when the Texas Senate approved a bill that would keep secret the source of the drug the state uses in lethal injections.

Should it become law, Senate Bill 1697, proposed by Republican state Sen. Joan Huffman of Houston, would culminate a push by state officials to hide the identities of drug suppliers from the public. Huffman, a former prosecutor and state judge, says SB 1697 is needed to protect suppliers of the state’s execution drug from harassment and threats
Such frequently repeated fears are grounded more in protecting suppliers from controversy than threats while ensuring the state’s ability to carry out the death penalty as it struggles to keep its supply of pentobarbital, the sedative it uses in lethal injections, replenished. There’s no compelling reason why the state should conceal information about its supply of pentobarbital or ignore death row inmates’ constitutional protections.
Keep names of execution drug providers public www.mystatesman.com

I have never seen anything so ignorant in my life. Fire Huffman.

OK.... If we're going for openness, how about we also publish the home addresses of abortion doctors?

So, you can bomb them? You have no evidence that the companies are being harassed. You have prior clinic bombings.

Yup. There are nuts that would bomb, harass or shoot abortionists. There are left handed wingnuts too.

And more than a few ambidextrous.

 

[Disir]

Fire her.

No, this is in response to extortion by outside parties to prevent lawful executions. Personally I would return to hangings, as the Rope trade is harder to manipulate.

You never, ever willingly allow the government to keep contracts from the public. Ever. You damn sure don't pat these clowns on the back to lie there way into it. The companies aren't harassed.

They are prevented from supplying the drugs by their suppliers under pain of being forced out of business. Its a response to an end run campaign to make the death penalty untenable.

We are talking about a few thousand dollars a year, which can be easily tracked and quantified without the companies ID being made public.

They aren't prevented. The nations that sodium thiopental is made in will not allow the drug to be exported for lethal injection. AND on top of this, you are willing to allow this to side step the 8th amendment. Wow.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Reason they'd wanna keep the identity private is the drug companies wont sell the drugs used if they know you're gonna be executing people with them.

Easy fix: use any of the drugs you already have for free in evidence vaults once they're finished being used as evidence at trials.

Why pay for something not designed as death-inducing anyway when doing so is difficult, not fool-proof, and expensive if you can use something you already have in spades, for free, intended to be destroyed anyway?

As a fiscal political matter the solution's clear. Use the heroin, or whatever else.

 

[martybegan]

Fire her.

No, this is in response to extortion by outside parties to prevent lawful executions. Personally I would return to hangings, as the Rope trade is harder to manipulate.

You never, ever willingly allow the government to keep contracts from the public. Ever. You damn sure don't pat these clowns on the back to lie there way into it. The companies aren't harassed.

They are prevented from supplying the drugs by their suppliers under pain of being forced out of business. Its a response to an end run campaign to make the death penalty untenable.

We are talking about a few thousand dollars a year, which can be easily tracked and quantified without the companies ID being made public.

They aren't prevented. The nations that sodium thiopental is made in will not allow the drug to be exported for lethal injection. AND on top of this, you are willing to allow this to side step the 8th amendment. Wow.

If the providers aren't known publicly, then the vendors are left with the choice of not shipping to the US entirely, or shipping and allowing the wholesalers to sell to who they want to sell to.

And the 8th amendment doesn't apply, because the Death Penalty has not been considered cruel and unusual punishment.

 

[Disir]

Fire her.

No, this is in response to extortion by outside parties to prevent lawful executions. Personally I would return to hangings, as the Rope trade is harder to manipulate.

You never, ever willingly allow the government to keep contracts from the public. Ever. You damn sure don't pat these clowns on the back to lie there way into it. The companies aren't harassed.

They are prevented from supplying the drugs by their suppliers under pain of being forced out of business. Its a response to an end run campaign to make the death penalty untenable.

We are talking about a few thousand dollars a year, which can be easily tracked and quantified without the companies ID being made public.

They aren't prevented. The nations that sodium thiopental is made in will not allow the drug to be exported for lethal injection. AND on top of this, you are willing to allow this to side step the 8th amendment. Wow.

If the providers aren't known publicly, then the vendors are left with the choice of not shipping to the US entirely, or shipping and allowing the wholesalers to sell to who they want to sell to.

And the 8th amendment doesn't apply, because the Death Penalty has not been considered cruel and unusual punishment.

Yep, the 8th amendment doesn't come into play at all.
Supreme Court Death Penalty Case Focuses on Lethal Injection Drug - US News

 

[JakeStarkey]

Abortion doctors are public, guys.

Open contract laws with government. Always.

 

[martybegan]

No, this is in response to extortion by outside parties to prevent lawful executions. Personally I would return to hangings, as the Rope trade is harder to manipulate.

You never, ever willingly allow the government to keep contracts from the public. Ever. You damn sure don't pat these clowns on the back to lie there way into it. The companies aren't harassed.

They are prevented from supplying the drugs by their suppliers under pain of being forced out of business. Its a response to an end run campaign to make the death penalty untenable.

We are talking about a few thousand dollars a year, which can be easily tracked and quantified without the companies ID being made public.

They aren't prevented. The nations that sodium thiopental is made in will not allow the drug to be exported for lethal injection. AND on top of this, you are willing to allow this to side step the 8th amendment. Wow.

If the providers aren't known publicly, then the vendors are left with the choice of not shipping to the US entirely, or shipping and allowing the wholesalers to sell to who they want to sell to.

And the 8th amendment doesn't apply, because the Death Penalty has not been considered cruel and unusual punishment.

Yep, the 8th amendment doesn't come into play at all.
Supreme Court Death Penalty Case Focuses on Lethal Injection Drug - US News

Its a case, not a decision, and it relates to one specific drug. This is the same end run being used by the drug companies. And keeping the supplier's name from the public doesn't mean the State doesn't know what drug they are using.

 

[Disir]

Which is fantastically fun considering that you don't trust the state..................except for right this minute this one time. Open to the public.

It's a case. After four botched executions then it's going to continue until it's resolved.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The state has no ethical or moral right to restrict that knowledge.