Karl Rove's Saving Grace: Joe Wilson

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    Joel Mowbray

    July 18, 2005



    http://www.townhall.com/columnists/joelmowbray/printjm20050718.shtml
     
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    Novak and half of DC knew about Valerie Plames' connection with the CIA before Rove even opened his mouth. Why isn't anyone trying to find the ORIGINAL source of the leak. This isn't merely a rush to judgement--it's a rush to conviction.
     
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    Valerie Plame herself talked about her job at coctail parties.

    My guess is jealousy and pick Bush's people off one at a time. You know, shoot at anything that moves and you will hit something eventually, doens't hurt that the MSM is frothing at the mouth to "help out"
     
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    Great article! Great points made. I loved it. Sorry the board won't let me rep you for bringing it to our attention, or I certainly would.

    As a follow-up to what Dillo said, Washington is a small gossipy town in many ways, and everyone know everyone and what they do. The Dems are back at that game they play best--trying to fool the masses.
     
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    Tonight on Fox Britt Hume will be doing an in depth report regarding this, and the question about Novak will be raised as well.
     
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    Thanks for the tip. I'll be sure to watch.
     
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    It doesn't seem too likely to me that Novack would cite a "white house source" if all that source did was say "I also heard that Plame was a CIA operative, not from an administration official, but from another journalist". Novack isn't dumb enough to cite someone who essentially says "this is a rumor I've also heard". Moreover, Rove emailed then-deputy national security adviser Stephen Hadley about the conversation he'd had with Matt Cooper, saying he 'didn't take the bait' (that is to say, didn't comment on the validity of Joe Wilson's report that the White House had used false evidence to support the Niger Yellowcake line in the State of the Union Address. At any rate, the fact that Rove was in contact with other high-level administration officials about Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame makes it a more than safe bet that he knew damn well, at some point, about Plame's undercover status (making ANY subsequent discussion of her CIA involvement a federal offense).

    To think Rove is completely innoncent, you have to believe that Rove had all these conversations with journalists about Wilson's wife being a CIA employee, and then, over a course of several days during which he was heavily active in the White House's mad scramble to brief Condi, Rummy et al with a Top-Secret binder about Wilson, never asked anyone in the government whether what the journalists were telling him was true. I mean, maybe he didn't, but the safer bet is obviously that he did.

    Also, anyone see the irony in that during this whole thing about Rove potentially having divulged top-secret information to the press, Condi Rice was being coached on how to address the Wilson project on the Sunday talk shows with a *top secret* classified assortment of documents (that Rove could NEVER have seen if he is actually innocent)?
     
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    Rove has no "saving grace." He is fried. Right now, he is twisting in the wind. The Bush Administration just needs someone to take the fall for him.

    And the next time there is a two-sided "debate" on the Fox Network will be the first time.
     
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    they actually happen all the time.....it is just you all keep losing so you don't like to watch.....peronally i like CNN where they all sit there and agree with each other and talk about how smart they all are
     
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