Karl Rove's 2012 electoral map has Obama winning

The economy is Obama's responsibility, I have not written otherwise.
Presidents take credit for economic expansion and are held responsible for economic failure but for the most part, president's have little impact on the economy. They can use the office of the president to throw their support behind legislation and veto legislation but that's about it. The president submits a budget to congress, but it is congress that controls the spending not the president. The discretionary spending is only 1% of the budget.

The greatest impact on the economy is the private sector, followed by the federal reserve and congress. Yet we always hold the president responsible for the economy. I guess that's not surprising since we hold the president responsible for rising gas prices, scandals in government, failures in our educational system, illegal immigration, swine flu, and the war 1812.

If we held presidents responsible for the administration of the executive branch, which is their real job, then we just might get better results.

It's the policies that count. It's the regulations placed on businesses by the presidents departments that will cause the economy to grow or shrink.

Example like not approvaling the keystone pipeline and not more friendly to drilling.
The influence of a president's economic policy is far less important to the economy than the private sector's influence. In fact, federal reserve policy probably has more influential than presidential economic policy. Presidential economic policy is usually centered around congressional legislation. However, that legislation once approved by congress may bear little resemblance to what the president proposed and if congress does not support the president's policy, then the policy is rather meaningless. Then there's the problem of timing. In the economic cycle there is a time to encourage and discourage expansion and most of all, a time to do nothing. If congress does not move rapidly with the legislation it may well come too lake.
 
Chris (intentionally?) left out Rove's closing sentence:

...just about all of the “lean-*‐Romney” states are generally Republican-*‐safe states, while all of the “lean-*‐ Obama” states will most likely move to the “toss-*‐up” or “lean-*‐Romney” column as the campaigns progress.

:eusa_boohoo:

IOW: It's way too early to call
:eusa_shhh:

Rove has to say that. If he just stated the facts, Republicans would not show up at the polls

Obama is leading in eight of ten swing states. Romney has a long way to come back
 
Chris (intentionally?) left out Rove's closing sentence:

...just about all of the “lean-*‐Romney” states are generally Republican-*‐safe states, while all of the “lean-*‐ Obama” states will most likely move to the “toss-*‐up” or “lean-*‐Romney” column as the campaigns progress.

:eusa_boohoo:

IOW: It's way too early to call
:eusa_shhh:

Rove has to say that. If he just stated the facts, Republicans would not show up at the polls

Obama is leading in eight of ten swing states. Romney has a long way to come back


Nonsense, Romney doesn't have to "come back"

Obama is the leader. The race has barley begun. When Romney focuses on dipshit for a month or two and still trails, then I will worry.

Until then you may continue to lick up after Obamas wet dreams.
 
Chris (intentionally?) left out Rove's closing sentence:

...just about all of the “lean-*‐Romney” states are generally Republican-*‐safe states, while all of the “lean-*‐ Obama” states will most likely move to the “toss-*‐up” or “lean-*‐Romney” column as the campaigns progress.

:eusa_boohoo:

IOW: It's way too early to call
:eusa_shhh:

Rove has to say that. If he just stated the facts, Republicans would not show up at the polls

Obama is leading in eight of ten swing states. Romney has a long way to come back

Name those states.
 
Chris (intentionally?) left out Rove's closing sentence:

...just about all of the “lean-*‐Romney” states are generally Republican-*‐safe states, while all of the “lean-*‐ Obama” states will most likely move to the “toss-*‐up” or “lean-*‐Romney” column as the campaigns progress.

:eusa_boohoo:

IOW: It's way too early to call
:eusa_shhh:

Rove has to say that. If he just stated the facts, Republicans would not show up at the polls

Obama is leading in eight of ten swing states. Romney has a long way to come back

Name those states.

According to RealClear Politics

Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Iowa, Nevada
 
Rove has to say that. If he just stated the facts, Republicans would not show up at the polls

Obama is leading in eight of ten swing states. Romney has a long way to come back

Name those states.

According to RealClear Politics

Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Iowa, Nevada

You can count North Carolina out of the obama state column

Here's a good indicator of how the states look

State-of-Jobs-in-USA.jpg
 
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According to RealClear Politics

Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Iowa, Nevada

You can count North Carolina out of the obama state column

Here's a good indicator of how the states look

State-of-Jobs-in-USA.jpg

Obama took NorthCarolina in the last election and currently leads in the polls. Romney did not do well in the primary

North Carolina was a 50/50 split. The governor is not running for a second term she can't ride obama's coat tail this time like she did in 2008
 

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