Kagen Must Be Stopped

[Murf76]

Yeah.....that ol' cracker's got the experience/background to get-the-job-done, right??
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You might not like it... but Jeff Sessions WILL be the guy asking the questions. And he won't be asking you for your smarmy comment or opinion on the matter.​

 

[Founder]

She's obviously a radical Socialist/Progressive. I couldn't support her. No Republican should either.

Stupid Evil Statement: "brand those as enemies to American society, who are enemies to equal and impartial liberty" (There is no such thing as “equal” or “impartial” Liberty. All Liberty, as well as all everything else, is by nature, unequal, and partial.)

 

[Wry Catcher]

Kagen Must Be Stopped

Every single Republican Senator, must stand united shoulder to shoulder in order to delay a vote on Kagen until after the people have had a chance to speak in the midterm elections scheduled for only 5 months from now.

Every Republican must delay the vote on Kagen until after thee elections, when the American people will have had a chance to vote on what they want their representatives to do.

Any Republican Senator who breaks ranks must be charged with treason to the nation, disloyalty to the Republican Party, and a disservice to God.

Do you know that one of the deadly sins is Pride, defined as a mere mortal suggesting they speak for God?

All mortals should speak for God if they think they have been inspired to do so. God speaks through human mouths that He has informed as to what to say. This excludes the devil's disciples such as any Democrat.

Do you know that one of God's commandments prohibited bearing false witness?

The Commandment, properly understood, is to not lie to, or about, another Believer. Heathens, such as Demonrats, can be, and should be, lied to, at will.

Do you know we live in a Constitutional Republic where each representative is elected to vote his or her conscience, and efforts to thwart the process by invoking devine authority demonstrates a disdain for the principles upon which the U.S. was founded (and usually suggests those who so act are mentally unstable)?

Demonrats typically want to invoke God, whom they hate, and Psychology, which the devil created, to try to demoralize and defeat Conservative Believer Republicans.

Do you understand, somewhere in the deep and self righteous confines of your brain, that OCD is treatable, and many members of the clergy, priesthood, etc. can treat you and provide theraphy within the parameters of your faith?

Using charges of mental illness to win political arguments is a bigoted slur against people who have real mental disabilities. It is typical Demonrat Fascist mentality.

Finally, do you know faith is fine, dandy and helpful for many, but when one takes faith and makes it into political dogma all debate ends, and necessarily leads to violations of other commandments?

All faith should be taken and made into political dogma and stuffed down the throats of the Demonrats. That is the way to honor and obey all the Commandments.

I Am Rubber, You Are Glue

LOL, you are either insane or have a devilish sense of humor. Using humor to provide cover for mental illness is not that uncommon - Hannibal Lecter comes to mind:
(Clarice: 'If you didn't kill him, then who did, sir?') "Who can say. Best thing for him, really. His therapy was going nowhere." - Hannibal Lecter

 

[Murf76]

The Supreme Court made a decision. And? She took a position I happen to agree with vis a vis the military. But it's clear the court wouldn't agree. Again, I'm not seeing your point, so perhaps we're speaking at cross-purposes.

The point is that the SCOTUS decision was predictable. She should have seen it coming, and if she did and chose to dick everyone around anyway, she's merely serving her own interests and biases.

And your point re citizen's united?

Remember... I said she wouldn't be my choice. They should have gone left because no matter what he does, you guys fight anyway.

*shrug*

I don't disagree with the SCOTUS decision, as it was argued as a First Amendment case. But there were apparently other ways she might have argued it and perhaps not had a 90 some-odd law overturned.

I just find it interesting to see alot of the same people, including Obama, who lost their minds on the Citizens United case, defending the person who arguably might have fucked it up.

As far as "going left" is concerned... I don't believe Obama would have nominated her if he didn't think he'd done just that. I have a sneaking suspicion that he's trying to slip us a radical in nincompoop's clothing. Nothing he does is trustworthy.

 

[Claudette]

Personally I think Barry is doing a great big favor for an old colleague from Harvard. If she' wins the nomination she will be set for the rest of her life. If she's a liberal she's merely replacing a retiring liberal. If she's a moderate I don't know how much of a shift if any that will be in the SC.

How will she vote?? Don't know. Not enough out there to really get an opinion.

I think she will win the seat though.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Reasonable questions, but it is helpful to consider EVERYONE as wearing either a White or Black hat. It keeps things neat, and minds ordered. Confusion is the cousin of deception, and deception is the mother of error.

The main reason to unite in keeping her from being approved in any way is it strengthens Republicans for the battles ahead, such as the elections and 2012 and a host of other tests. Discipline has been proven to raise your side's morale and lower the morale of the other side. Better be united in a poor cause than disunited in pursuit of a good one.

We can only win by being unalterably opposed to every enemy initiative. We are facing an implacable, united, AND EVIL, foe in the form of the Demonrat Party, and our best weapon is unity and resolve of the highest order. That is just one reason why NOT opposing her is treason to the nation, and disloyalty to the Republican Party. We need to sharpen the minds and stiffen the resolve of the American people if we are to have any chance to save the Republic, and discipline and radicalization is the best and proven way to that goal.

While I can appreciate your passion, I can't say that I share it. I just don't see the Democrats as evil, just often not right. While I might prefer a candidate with more experience, Kagan's appointment to the bench will have no real effect on the balance we currently have in the court. For this reason my concerns are not what they would be were a conservative Justice stepping down. I am also of the opinion that the Republicans could achieve the goals you set out simply by conducting a rigorous interview during the confirmation hearing, and they'd come out looking better. There is no way to avoid appointing an Obama candidate to the Court, but by the same token, there is no need to rubber stamp Kagan's nomination.

The question should not be whether she will vote the way you would like her to vote, but rather will she make a good judge? Will she be able to put personal preferences, prejudices, and political philosophies aside and interpret the law based on sound legal argument.

And she has already proven she won't do so. She allowed personal bias to sway her decision on military recruiters at Harvard, there is no reason to suspect she won't continue to do the same with Legal cases brought before her.

 

[Father Time]

Kagen Must Be Stopped

Every single Republican Senator, must stand united shoulder to shoulder in order to delay a vote on Kagen until after the people have had a chance to speak in the midterm elections scheduled for only 5 months from now.

Every Republican must delay the vote on Kagen until after thee elections, when the American people will have had a chance to vote on what they want their representatives to do.

Any Republican Senator who breaks ranks must be charged with treason to the nation, disloyalty to the Republican Party, and a disservice to God.

Do you know that one of the deadly sins is Pride, defined as a mere mortal suggesting they speak for God?

All mortals should speak for God if they think they have been inspired to do so. God speaks through human mouths that He has informed as to what to say. This excludes the devil's disciples such as any Democrat.

Do you know that one of God's commandments prohibited bearing false witness?

The Commandment, properly understood, is to not lie to, or about, another Believer. Heathens, such as Demonrats, can be, and should be, lied to, at will.

Do you know we live in a Constitutional Republic where each representative is elected to vote his or her conscience, and efforts to thwart the process by invoking devine authority demonstrates a disdain for the principles upon which the U.S. was founded (and usually suggests those who so act are mentally unstable)?

Demonrats typically want to invoke God, whom they hate, and Psychology, which the devil created, to try to demoralize and defeat Conservative Believer Republicans.

Do you understand, somewhere in the deep and self righteous confines of your brain, that OCD is treatable, and many members of the clergy, priesthood, etc. can treat you and provide theraphy within the parameters of your faith?

Using charges of mental illness to win political arguments is a bigoted slur against people who have real mental disabilities. It is typical Demonrat Fascist mentality.

Finally, do you know faith is fine, dandy and helpful for many, but when one takes faith and makes it into political dogma all debate ends, and necessarily leads to violations of other commandments?

All faith should be taken and made into political dogma and stuffed down the throats of the Demonrats. That is the way to honor and obey all the Commandments.

I Am Rubber, You Are Glue

You have to be an impersonator of a right wing nut, honestly there's so much laughable trash in here.

 

[maineman]

No one said she violated the Constitution. What I said and will continue to say is we have ONE example of where she got to interpret the Constitution. And she allowed personal opinion and Bias to sway her decision. Not the kind of people we want ruling on Constitutional grounds.

and AGAIN, it was not her job, nor her intent to INTERPRET THE CONSTITUTION. She was acting in the best interests of her institution and its student body. THAT was her job.

I noticed you never answered me concerning Rehnquist and Warren. COWARD.

The only coward here is you. Remind us again how Iraq can not remain free? How it will devolve into civil war just as soon as the US pulls troops out.

She made a decision contrary to the Constitution. Being a Constitutional scholar she knew what was right and wrong. She opened her school to law suits by the US Federal Government, endangered her schools flow of US Federal dollars for Students and programs in the school. All based on a personal opinion.

She is not qualified to be a US Supreme Court Justice.

Regarding Iraq: as I have said to you COUNTLESS times before, let's wait and see how Iraq behaves AFTER THE US TROOPS PULL OUT! I told you before that I believe that, after we are GONE, Iraq will not remain a stable multi-cultural democracy, but will be, IMO, dominated by shiites and become much more closely aligned with Iran than it will ever be with us. But, we'll both have to wait and see who is right and who is wrong UNTIL AFTER THE US TROOPS PULL OUT!!! Got it? good.

And again, her job as dean of the harvard law school did not require her to interpret the coNstitution. It only required her to advocate for her institution.

and, as your signature line so aptly states.... YOUR opinion as to her qualification is utterly meaningless. If you want to comment on the qualification of paper pushing medically discharged jarheads, you are eminently qualified to tell us your opinion and it would have value given your understanding of that subject. Having you pronounce anyone as qualifed or unqualified for a SCOTUS seat is just like you telling me how to drive a ship, or write a sermon, for that matter

but just for the record.... how is her not having been a judge disqualify her, in your opinion... and then use that same logic and tell me about the qualifications of WIlliam Rehnquist and Earl Warren.

 

[maineman]

And she has already proven she won't do so. She allowed personal bias to sway her decision on military recruiters at Harvard, there is no reason to suspect she won't continue to do the same with Legal cases brought before her.

how is taking a stand against don't ask don't tell injecting "personal bias" into anything? SHe was advocating for her students, her faculty and her institution. SHe was doing her job as dean.

do you believe that Kagen personally believed and espoused every position that she, as solicitor general, argued before the court? Or do you think that she was merely doing her job and doing it well representing the views of her client?

why do you think she cannot similarly do her job as a SCOTUS justice?

 

[JBeukema]

And yet you argue that even though the document has the means to change it as a basic part of it somehow it has no fixed meaning and there is no need to amend it at all, just ignore those parts you disagree with.

link?

 

[Murf76]

And yet you argue that even though the document has the means to change it as a basic part of it somehow it has no fixed meaning and there is no need to amend it at all, just ignore those parts you disagree with.

link?

Not sure what you're looking for , but I ran across Robert's' opinion on Rumsfeld v. FAIR...
Rumsfeld v. Forum for Academic and Institutional Rights

 

[JBeukema]

He claimed I said something I never said


he's a lying sack of shit

 

[ElmerMudd]

She was not a judge interpretting the constitution when she did not allow military recruiting in the Harvard law school. She was a school administrator.

At Harvard she brought in conservative professors to counter balance the many liberal professors. She has already been endorsed by some of the top conservative constitutional lawyers in the US.

Those against her are politicians purely based on political divisiveness. Not on her competence of knowing the law and our constitution.

So.... as Dean of Harvard School of Law, she either didn't know what the correct Constitutional interpretation would be...or she willfully chose to put her own bias ahead of it. (????)

The true test of Kagans regard of the Constitution was the fact she honored the decision of the Supreme Court in regards to military recruiting on campus.

The reason there are 9 justices in the Supreme Court is even the best constitutional scholars disagree on issues.

The interpretation of the constitution is not a black and white issue.

 

[blu]

lets see ... when a democrat is president republicans bitch about every nomination and when a republican is president hte democrats bitch about every nomination. 95% of the info put out is falsehoold by the opposing side and in the end the judge gets accepted anyway

 

[SpidermanTuba]

Kagen Must Be Stopped

Every single Republican Senator, must stand united shoulder to shoulder in order to delay a vote on Kagen until after the people have had a chance to speak in the midterm elections scheduled for only 5 months from now.

OK. Why not wait until they new Congress takes its seats in January of 2011? Heck why not wait till the next President gets elected? Wouldn't want to avoid just HANDING the whiny republicans power on a platter.

Every Republican must delay the vote on Kagen until after these elections, when the American people will have had a chance to vote on what they want their representatives to do.

The American People already decided who they wanted to confirm judicial appointments in the 2 year period between January 2009 and January 2011. Sorry but the Founders didn't want us picked new representation more than every 2 years.

Any Republican Senator who breaks ranks must be charged with treason to the nation, disloyalty to the Republican Party, and a disservice to God.

Treason on what grounds?

 

[Vast LWC]

Kagen Must Be Stopped

Every single Republican Senator, must stand united shoulder to shoulder in order to delay a vote on Kagen until after the people have had a chance to speak in the midterm elections scheduled for only 5 months from now.

Every Republican must delay the vote on Kagen until after these elections, when the American people will have had a chance to vote on what they want their representatives to do.

Any Republican Senator who breaks ranks must be charged with treason to the nation, disloyalty to the Republican Party, and a disservice to God.

Wow! And I thought it couldn't get any more cuckoo.

That's why Founder is the only person on my ignore list.

 

[Immanuel]

Kagen Must Be Stopped

Every single Republican Senator, must stand united shoulder to shoulder in order to delay a vote on Kagen until after the people have had a chance to speak in the midterm elections scheduled for only 5 months from now.

Every Republican must delay the vote on Kagen until after these elections, when the American people will have had a chance to vote on what they want their representatives to do.

Any Republican Senator who breaks ranks must be charged with treason to the nation, disloyalty to the Republican Party, and a disservice to God.

If those are your only reasons it will only help to make Republicans look like obstructionists. Much like the Democrats looked when Bush nominated people. I certainly hope they... you, can come up with better reasons than simply, "we have to wait until the people speak." That simply is not good enough reason to postpone a nomination.

I know very little about the nominee so far, but your reasons for blocking her nomination are not sufficient as far as I am concerned.

Basically what I am saying is that I hope you have got more than you presented in the OP as grounds for blocking the nomination. Because if you don't, it will just look like more whining from the Republicans and they will end up looking like bigger piles of shit than they already do.

Immie

 

[Father Time]

lets see ... when a democrat is president republicans bitch about every nomination and when a republican is president hte democrats bitch about every nomination. 95% of the info put out is falsehoold by the opposing side and in the end the judge gets accepted anyway

True, but hey it makes for some good drama at the very least.

 

[Father Time]

Kagen Must Be Stopped

Every single Republican Senator, must stand united shoulder to shoulder in order to delay a vote on Kagen until after the people have had a chance to speak in the midterm elections scheduled for only 5 months from now.

Every Republican must delay the vote on Kagen until after these elections, when the American people will have had a chance to vote on what they want their representatives to do.

Any Republican Senator who breaks ranks must be charged with treason to the nation, disloyalty to the Republican Party, and a disservice to God.

If those are your only reasons it will only help to make Republicans look like obstructionists. Much like the Democrats looked when Bush nominated people. I certainly hope they... you, can come up with better reasons than simply, "we have to wait until the people speak." That simply is not good enough reason to postpone a nomination.

I know very little about the nominee so far, but your reasons for blocking her nomination are not sufficient as far as I am concerned.

Basically what I am saying is that I hope you have got more than you presented in the OP as grounds for blocking the nomination. Because if you don't, it will just look like more whining from the Republicans and they will end up looking like bigger piles of shit than they already do.

Immie

Founder doesn't represent Republicans in fact I'm fairly certain (s)he is actually someone pretending to be a Christian nut to make them look bad but yet I'm not sure.

Poe's Law at work people.

 

[Founder]

Do you know that one of the deadly sins is Pride, defined as a mere mortal suggesting they speak for God?

All mortals should speak for God if they think they have been inspired to do so. God speaks through human mouths that He has informed as to what to say. This excludes the devil's disciples such as any Democrat.

Do you know that one of God's commandments prohibited bearing false witness?

The Commandment, properly understood, is to not lie to, or about, another Believer. Heathens, such as Demonrats, can be, and should be, lied to, at will.

Do you know we live in a Constitutional Republic where each representative is elected to vote his or her conscience, and efforts to thwart the process by invoking devine authority demonstrates a disdain for the principles upon which the U.S. was founded (and usually suggests those who so act are mentally unstable)?

Demonrats typically want to invoke God, whom they hate, and Psychology, which the devil created, to try to demoralize and defeat Conservative Believer Republicans.

Do you understand, somewhere in the deep and self righteous confines of your brain, that OCD is treatable, and many members of the clergy, priesthood, etc. can treat you and provide theraphy within the parameters of your faith?

Using charges of mental illness to win political arguments is a bigoted slur against people who have real mental disabilities. It is typical Demonrat Fascist mentality.

Finally, do you know faith is fine, dandy and helpful for many, but when one takes faith and makes it into political dogma all debate ends, and necessarily leads to violations of other commandments?

All faith should be taken and made into political dogma and stuffed down the throats of the Demonrats. That is the way to honor and obey all the Commandments.

I Am Rubber, You Are Glue

LOL, you are either insane or have a devilish sense of humor. Using humor to provide cover for mental illness is not that uncommon - Hannibal Lecter comes to mind:
(Clarice: 'If you didn't kill him, then who did, sir?') "Who can say. Best thing for him, really. His therapy was going nowhere." - Hannibal Lecter

You are so disgusting, I am debating as to whether to put you on ignore, or to keep you around as a useful fool foil. Maybe I'll wait on your next disgusting post to decide. Talk about a bottom feeder!