Justice Roberts: It's A Tax

[bigrebnc1775]

what nonsense...

What do you mean nonsense?
obamacare was not rulked constitutional it was ruled a tax. Political chic broke down what this new tax will cost.

Yeah, if all the higher tax opposition is this response, then I cannot imagine they will be able to defend their position.

Do what? not sure I understand what you are getting at.

 

[PoliticalChic]

So what if they are calling it a tax? The right wingnuts had better come up with a replacement if they intend to attempt repeal and they're painting themselves into a corner pretending that the replacement will be free.

And remember Romney still has to debate the president. It might present a challenge discussing how his own healthcare reform went when he was governor.

Your party is one big talking point negative ad and you have no new ideas.

Now, Sarah....is it possible that your political acumen has all of the depth of wall paper?

Why do you suppose Obama and the Democrats avoided using the word "TAX"?


Guess?


Supporting a "Tax" is to the voters like holding a cross up to vampires.....
...you understand that, don't you?

 

[Samson]

So what if they are calling it a tax? The right wingnuts had better come up with a replacement if they intend to attempt repeal and they're painting themselves into a corner pretending that the replacement will be free.

And remember Romney still has to debate the president. It might present a challenge discussing how his own healthcare reform went when he was governor.

Your party is one big talking point negative ad and you have no new ideas.

They haven't got to do a damn thing for healthcare but too stay the fuck out of it. How do you like obama's new tax?

Do you really believe our heathcare system is perfect?

 

[Sarah G]

So what if they are calling it a tax? The right wingnuts had better come up with a replacement if they intend to attempt repeal and they're painting themselves into a corner pretending that the replacement will be free.

And remember Romney still has to debate the president. It might present a challenge discussing how his own healthcare reform went when he was governor.

Your party is one big talking point negative ad and you have no new ideas.

They haven't got to do a damn thing for healthcare but too stay the fuck out of it. How do you like obama's new tax?

Uhm, they do need to provide a replacement, not that this repeal is going anywhere anyway..

 

[Samson]

What do you mean nonsense?
obamacare was not rulked constitutional it was ruled a tax. Political chic broke down what this new tax will cost.

Yeah, if all the higher tax opposition is this response, then I cannot imagine they will be able to defend their position.

Do what? not sure I understand what you are getting at.

If all she can say is "what nonsense" (Jillian) then I don't think she has a defensable position from which to base an arguement.

 

[Sarah G]

So what if they are calling it a tax? The right wingnuts had better come up with a replacement if they intend to attempt repeal and they're painting themselves into a corner pretending that the replacement will be free.

And remember Romney still has to debate the president. It might present a challenge discussing how his own healthcare reform went when he was governor.

Your party is one big talking point negative ad and you have no new ideas.

Now, Sarah....is it possible that your political acumen has all of the depth of wall paper?
Why do you suppose Obama and the Democrats avoided using the word "TAX"?


Guess?


Supporting a "Tax" is to the voters like holding a cross up to vampires.....
...you understand that, don't you?

Says the copy/paste queen. HaHa

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Yeah, if all the higher tax opposition is this response, then I cannot imagine they will be able to defend their position.

Do what? not sure I understand what you are getting at.

If all she can say is "what nonsense" (Jillian) then I don't think she has a defensable position from which to base an arguement.

What else is there too say when Jillian's comment was nonsense? One word, I wanted to know what was nonsense about this thread or was it one certain post that she thought was nonsense. When all she gave was a nonsense reply what else could have been said?

 

[Samson]

So what if they are calling it a tax? The right wingnuts had better come up with a replacement if they intend to attempt repeal and they're painting themselves into a corner pretending that the replacement will be free.

And remember Romney still has to debate the president. It might present a challenge discussing how his own healthcare reform went when he was governor.

Your party is one big talking point negative ad and you have no new ideas.

They haven't got to do a damn thing for healthcare but too stay the fuck out of it. How do you like obama's new tax?

Uhm, they do need to provide a replacement, not that this repeal is going anywhere anyway..

The arguement is that they do NOT NEED a replacement.

The replacement is for government to remove itself entirely from the business of providing healthcare (Medicare/Medicaid/Obamacare). Frankly this option seems more than a tad unrealistic given the fact the genie is out of the bottle.

 

[Samson]

Do what? not sure I understand what you are getting at.

If all she can say is "what nonsense" (Jillian) then I don't think she has a defensable position from which to base an arguement.

What else is there too say when Jillian's comment was nonsense? One word, I wanted to know what was nonsense about this thread or was it one certain post that she thought was nonsense. When all she gave was a nonsense reply what else could have been said?

I'm in agreement.

Maybe she was having a bad hair day?

 

[PoliticalChic]

So what if they are calling it a tax? The right wingnuts had better come up with a replacement if they intend to attempt repeal and they're painting themselves into a corner pretending that the replacement will be free.

And remember Romney still has to debate the president. It might present a challenge discussing how his own healthcare reform went when he was governor.

Your party is one big talking point negative ad and you have no new ideas.

Now, Sarah....is it possible that your political acumen has all of the depth of wall paper?
Why do you suppose Obama and the Democrats avoided using the word "TAX"?


Guess?


Supporting a "Tax" is to the voters like holding a cross up to vampires.....
...you understand that, don't you?

Says the copy/paste queen. HaHa

Let's analyze exactly how stupid this particular post reveals you to be:
(as opposed to all the other posts in which you have exposed your fatuousness)

1. There is absolutely nothing of a pejorative nature in documenting and sourcing. You'll learn that if or when you go to college.

2. There is nothing 'copy/paste' in the post to which you were, ostensibly, responding.

3. You have not responded nor rebutted the essence of the post, i.e., pointing out that you are a dunce.

4. I do appreciate being referred to as 'queen' (sic)....capitalize it next time.

 

[mudwhistle]

The new tax will be implimented thusly:

On your 1040 form you'll see a new box.

"Do you have health insurance?"

If you check yes the IRS will audit your return and look for supporting documents. If none are found your refund will be held up till you provide evidence of health ins. Kind of like a cop pulling your return over for speeding. If you lied they will fine(tax) you $285 dollars. The fine grows to. $2850 in 2016. If enough people simply choose to pay the fine(tax) then the needs of the budget allows them to adjust the fine(tax) accordingly. If you choose to buy insurance it will appear as a deduction on your pay stub. Most plans cost $186 a month and as much as $500 a month at current costs. So say goodbye to 25% of your income if you make $30,000. This doesn't take into account the extra taxes being heaped on insurance companies and businesses. You may lose your job because taxes make it too expensive to keep you.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

So what if they are calling it a tax? The right wingnuts had better come up with a replacement if they intend to attempt repeal and they're painting themselves into a corner pretending that the replacement will be free.

And remember Romney still has to debate the president. It might present a challenge discussing how his own healthcare reform went when he was governor.

Your party is one big talking point negative ad and you have no new ideas.

They haven't got to do a damn thing for healthcare but too stay the fuck out of it. How do you like obama's new tax?

Uhm, they do need to provide a replacement, not that this repeal is going anywhere anyway..

Why do they need a replacement?

 

[Samson]

The new tax will be implimented thusly:

On your 1040 form you'll see a new box.

"Do you have health insurance?"

If you check yes the IRS will audit your return and look for supporting documents. If none are found your refund will be held up till you provide evidence of health ins. Kind of like a cop pulling your return over for speeding. If you lied they will fine(tax) you $285 dollars. The fine grows to. $2850 in 2016. If enough people simply choose to pay the fine(tax) then the needs of the budget allows them to adjust the fine(tax) accordingly. If you choose to buy insurance it will appear as a deduction on your pay stub. Most plans cost $186 a month and as much as $500 a month at current costs. So say goodbye to 25% of your income if you make $30,000. This doesn't take into account the extra taxes being heaped on insurance companies and businesses. You may lose your job because taxes make it too expensive to keep you.

This is far to simple to be remotely related to a tax form.

First you will report you income, less all deductions and credits.

Then you will calculate some sort of bullshit number which will be The Threshold.

Anyone ABOVE the Magic Number will need to provide A FORM proving that you had health insurance.

Anyone BELOW (the vast majority of Registered Democrats) will not need to prove they had health insurance.

 

[mudwhistle]

Obama has been given free reign to tax our habits.

If you own an SUV you pay a tax.
If you use bio-fuels you pay a tax.
An additional tax can be added to gas.
If you you don't have solar heat in your home you pay a tax.

 

[hortysir]

So what if they are calling it a tax? The right wingnuts had better come up with a replacement if they intend to attempt repeal and they're painting themselves into a corner pretending that the replacement will be free.

And remember Romney still has to debate the president. It might present a challenge discussing how his own healthcare reform went when he was governor.

Your party is one big talking point negative ad and you have no new ideas.

I'd be very interested in seeing your posts from the time period when Obama was telling us that it wasn't a tax.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

So what if they are calling it a tax? The right wingnuts had better come up with a replacement if they intend to attempt repeal and they're painting themselves into a corner pretending that the replacement will be free.

And remember Romney still has to debate the president. It might present a challenge discussing how his own healthcare reform went when he was governor.

Your party is one big talking point negative ad and you have no new ideas.

I'd be very interested in seeing your posts from the time period when Obama was telling us that it wasn't a tax.

I don't have time to check these post out but this might help in your quest.
http://www.usmessageboard.com/healt...a-judge-rules-obamacare-unconstitutional.html

 

[regent]

The amazing thing about the Supreme Court is they need no law knowledge or law experience to be appointed, and perhaps that is not needed. The Court with few exceptions votes their politics. Thomas, for example, was appointed to vote one way and Thomas votes that way. There is no real need for Justices to read briefs, listen to oral arguments, study the Constitution they almost to a man, or woman, vote their politics. What is amazing that on occassion a justice breaks free from of his political obligations and votes differently and it is this justice that gives Americans some confidence in the Court. Is Roberts one of those justices?
Perhaps some day a case will be fed into a computor and out will come a nonpolitical decision regarding the Constitution?

 

[PoliticalChic]

The amazing thing about the Supreme Court is they need no law knowledge or law experience to be appointed, and perhaps that is not needed. The Court with few exceptions votes their politics. Thomas, for example, was appointed to vote one way and Thomas votes that way. There is no real need for Justices to read briefs, listen to oral arguments, study the Constitution they almost to a man, or woman, vote their politics. What is amazing that on occassion a justice breaks free from of his political obligations and votes differently and it is this justice that gives Americans some confidence in the Court. Is Roberts one of those justices?
Perhaps some day a case will be fed into a computor and out will come a nonpolitical decision regarding the Constitution?

So, you wrote a post to simply argue with yourself?

Interesting.

With so much time to waste you should consider making toast with a hairdryer.


Would I be correct in presuming that this post identifies you as a retiree?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

The law states the mandate is a penalty - Congress. For the purposes of Constitutionality, the Court said the penalty is a tax.

It's a penalty that's a tax.

see?

You right wingers have a difficult enough time getting headlines straight: FOX News: "Supreme Court Finds Health Care Individual Mandate Unconstitutional." the rest of us don't really expect you to comprehend the facts yet.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

The law states the mandate is a penalty - Congress. For the purposes of Constitutionality, the Court said the penalty is a tax.

It's a penalty that's a tax.

see?

You right wingers have a difficult enough time getting headlines straight: FOX News: "Supreme Court Finds Health Care Individual Mandate Unconstitutional." the rest of us don't really expect you to comprehend the facts yet.

What kind of tax?

By the way, at least Fox did better than CNN. What can you expect from a network that puts Wolf Blitzer up front?CNN probably got it from HuffPo.

http://online.wsj.com/article/AP7fb98cdd01154a4d844b1bfc5d3270cd.html