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    So?

    You really don't think that the zoo bears any blame... for letting the fucking tiger out? You take "personal responsbility" (the responsibility to avoid acts of God) to a ridiculous extreme. Not all situations are black and white.
     
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    The Zoo didn't "let" the tiger out. It was so provoked it leaped a moat and a barrier that experts say it shouldn't have been able to leap.
     
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    It's amazing what man or animal can do when entirely focused...
     
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    No one knows how high tigers can jump. All estimates are based on what's been seen before. These people so agitated the cat that it got adrenalized and jumped. Basically, it was being a tiger. It's not that anyone deserved to die, but these morons shouldn't have provoked it. Because of them a beautiful animal had to be killed... for absolutely no reason.
     
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    neither the teenaged victim, nor the tiger "deserved" to die. The teenager was being a stupid teenager, and the tiger was just being a tiger.

    If all teenagers who do boneheaded stupid things "deserved" to die, homo sapiens would soon be extinct.

    and if all tigers didn't act like tigers, they would have been extinct long ago.
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    Actually, the tiger did need to be destroyed. You can't have a tiger that has killed in a situation where it has to be handled by people every day.

    And it's the responsibility of the zoo to make sure the animals CAN'T get to the visitors. I've heard of tigers leaping 30 feet and I imagine the specialists who advise the zoo or work for them have, too.

    The zoo should have to pay the bills, but as far as wrongful death, let a jury decide.
     
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    First of all, read my last post... no one knows how high a tiger can jump. There is a monorail at the Bronx Zoo and no tiger's gotten to it yet. But that doesn't mean it can't. They make best estimates based on the knowledge at hand. The only alternative is for zoos to cage them, which I think is cruel. They do better out on exhibit.

    As for "you can't have a tiger that's killed in a situation where it has to be handled by people every day". That's simply wrong. No one "handles" a tiger, in a zoo or otherwise. They exist simply to kill. My husband was a large mammal keeper at the Bronx Zoo for 8 years. The tigers were fed through sliding trays that would be opened and the food placed inside. On one particular day a tiger reached a single claw through and tore the steel toe off of my husband's boot. These animals do not mess around. The survival time in a cage with a tiger is listed as "zero" in their exhibits... which means it's the amount of time it takes the tiger to get to you.

    They had no choice but to kill the tiger because it could have killed another 10 or 20 people before a sedative kicked in.
     
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    Jill, You really are a moron. I said I'd heard of tigers leaping 30 feet...which means that somewhere they can do it. Which means the zoos should make sure they have barriers of 30 feet at least. It wasn't an assertion that I knew how far they could jump.

    And people do handle cats every day in zoos. People work the gates, they feed them, they doctor them..and they occasionally get grabbed and hurt, even by the cats who haven't proven they're committed to killing.

    And why would I read your last post, or any of your posts? Typically they're argumentative with very little substance to offer. Case in point, above.
     

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