Justice Dept: Blacks MUST Have Democrat Label to Know How to Vote

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    for those of you to lazy to open the link...

    "Well, now I think I've seen it all. Obama's Justice Department has ruled against the actions of the town of Kinston, North Carolina. What did this town do that was so terrible? The residents voted overwhelmingly to eliminate partisan elections for mayor and city council members. The Justice Department stepped in and said, "Whoa! Wait just a second!" According to the Justice Department, blacks in Kinston must have the Democrat Party in order to elect their "candidate of choice." How insulting! Basically, what Obama's team is saying is that blacks will only vote for Democrats, and without the party label, blacks can't figure out for themselves which candidate will get their vote. This is not only a slap in the face of the voters, but it continues Obama's efforts to divide people along racial lines rather than bring them together."
     
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    I'm speechless. "The soft bigotry of low expectations".
     
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    And of course, the talking heads are misrepresenting what the letter stated.

    Actually, she's saying that White voters are less likely to vote for a Black candidate if they aren't affiliated with a party.

    Civil Rights Division Home Page

    U.S. Department of Justice

    Civil Rights Division

    Office of the Assistant Attorney General Washington, DC 20530


    August 17, 2009

    James P. Cauley III, Esq.
    Rose Rand Wallace
    P.O. Drawer 2367
    Wilson, North Carolina 27894-2367

    Dear Mr. Cauley:

    This refers to the change to nonpartisan elections, with a plurality-vote requirement, for the City of Kinston in Lenoir County, North Carolina, submitted to the Attorney General pursuant to Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act of 1965, 42 U.S.C. 1973c. We received your response to our June 10, 2009, request for additional information on June 16, 2009; additional information was received on August 4, 2009.

    We have carefully considered the information you have provided, as well as information from other interested parties. Under Section 5, the Attorney General must determine whether the submitting authority has met its burden of showing that the proposed change "neither has the purpose nor will have the effect" of denying or abridging the right to vote on account of race, color or membership in a language minority group. As discussed further below, I cannot conclude that the city has sustained its burden of showing that the proposed changes do not have a retrogressive effect. Therefore, based on the information available to us, I object to the voting changes on behalf of the Attorney General.

    According to the 2000 Census, the City of Kinston has a total population of 23,688 people, of whom 14,837 (62.6%) are African-American. The total voting age population is 17,906, of whom 10,525 (58.8%) are African-American. The American Community Survey for 2005-2007 estimates the total population to be 22,649, of whom 14,967 (66.6%) are African-American. As of October 31, 2008, the city has 14,799 registered voters, of whom 9,556 (64.6%) are African-American.

    Although black persons comprise a majority of the city's registered voters, in three of the past four general municipal elections, African Americans comprised a minority of the electorate on election day; in the fourth , they may have been a slight majority. For that reason, they are viewed as a minority for analytical purposes. Minority turnout is relevant to determining whether a change under Section 5 is retrogressive. Hale County v. United States, 496 F.Supp 1206 (D.D.C.).

    Black voters have had limited success in electing candidates of choice during recent municipal elections. The success that they have achieved has resulted from cohesive support for candidates during the Democratic primary (where black voters represent a larger percentage of the electorate), combined with crossover voting by whites in the general election. It is the partisan makeup of the general electorate that results in enough white cross-over to allow the black community to elect a candidate of choice.

    This small, but critical, amount of white crossover votes results from the party affiliation of black-preferred candidates, most if not all of whom have been black. Numerous elected municipal and county officials confirm the results of our statistical analyses that a majority of white Democrats support white Republicans over black Democrats in Kinston city elections. At the same time, they also acknowledged that a small group of white Democrats maintain strong party allegiance and will continue to vote along party lines, regardless of the race of the candidate. Many of these white crossover voters are simply using straight-ticket voting. As a result, while the racial identity of the candidate greatly diminishes the supportive effect of the partisan cue, it does not totally eliminate it.

    It follows, therefore, that the elimination of party affiliation on the ballot will likely reduce the ability of blacks to elect candidates of choice. Black candidates will likely lose a significant amount of crossover votes due to the high degree of racial polarization present in city elections. Without party loyalty available to counter-balance the consistent trend of racial bloc voting, blacks will face greater difficulty winning general elections. Our analysis of election returns indicates that cross-over voting is greater in partisan general elections than in the closed primaries. Thus, statistical analysis supports the conclusion that given a change to a non-partisan elections, black preferred candidates will receive fewer white cross-over votes.

    The change to nonpartisan elections would also likely eliminate the party’s campaign support and other assistance that is provided to black candidates because it eliminates the party"s role in the election. The party provides forums for black candidates to meet with voters who may otherwise be unreachable without the party's assistance. In addition, the party provides campaign funds to candidates, without which minority candidates may lag behind their white counterparts in campaign spending.

    Removing the partisan cue in municipal elections will, in all likelihood, eliminate the single factor that allows black candidates to be elected to office. In Kinston elections, voters base their choice more on the race of a candidate rather than his or her political affiliation, and without either the appeal to party loyalty or the ability to vote a straight ticket, the limited remaining support from white voters for a black Democratic candidate will diminish even more. And given that the city's electorate is overwhelmingly Democratic, while the motivating factor for this change may be partisan, the effect will be strictly racial.

    Under Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act, the submitting authority has the burden of showing that a submitted change has neither a discriminatory purpose nor a discriminatory effect. Georgia v. United States, 411 U.S. 526 (1973); Procedures for the Administration of Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act of 1965, 28 C.F.R. 51.52. In light of the considerations discussed above, I cannot conclude that your burden has been sustained in this instance. Therefore, on behalf of the Attorney General, I must object to the change to nonpartisan elections, with a plurality vote requirement.

    Under Section 5 you have the right to seek a declaratory judgment from the United States District Court for the District of Columbia that the proposed change neither has the purpose nor will have the effect of denying or abridging the right to vote on account of race, color, or membership in a language minority group. 28 C.F.R. 51.44. In addition, you may request that the Attorney General reconsider the objection. 28 C.F.R. 51.45. However, unless and until the objection is withdrawn or a judgment from the District of Columbia court is obtained, the change to nonpartisan elections, with a plurality vote requirement, continues to be legally unenforceable. Clark v. Roemer, 500 U.S. 646 (1991); 28 C.F.R. 51.10.

    To enable us to meet our responsibility to enforce the Voting Rights Act, please inform us of the action the city plans to take concerning this matter. If you have any questions, please call Mr. J. Eric Rich (202-305-0107), an attorney in the Voting Section.

    Sincerely,

    /s/
    Loretta King
    Acting Assistant Attorney General
     
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    That is NOT what the letter states. Sorry.
     
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    This story is just another good example of how the federal government abuses it's power in states and localities... and why it's imperative to the cause of self-determination that we keep them out whenever and wherever possible.

    The feds came into Kinston in 1965, during the Civil Rights Era. And here it is... four and half DECADES later, and they're still there, subverting the will of local citizens. Once they get in, they NEVER leave. :eek:

    Kinston is one of only 9 cities, out of 551, required to have partisan elections.

    There's your "post-racial" candidate for ya. :wtf:
    He and his rabidly biased AG... out spreading their disease. They're CAUSING racial division via hard feelings and they do it on purpose... to keep blacks isolated lest they escape the Democrat Plantation. It's utterly sickening.

    Everything they do is about cementing their own power. It is NOT about helping anyone. Our Democrat-controlled urban centers are proof positive of that, because in all this time the only thing Democrats have accomplished is to bring home the vote. Nobody's living any better through their dubious "efforts".


    Oh, and just so we're all on the same page... this is the SAME Loretta King who allowed voter intimidation from the New Black Panthers to go practically unpunished in Philadelphia. Read the article above in it's entirety.
     
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    Emma, the letter said EXACTLY what Philobeado said. Blacks, though the largest voter group, was disadvantaged when the Democratic label was not affixed to the candidates. They came to this conclusion because, blacks were not electing enough blacks. It says so in the letter you provided.
     
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    Not surprising if you actually take the time to find out who's currently running our Justice Department. Scary stuff.
     
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    Hey, they've worked hard at indoctrinating black people to just check the name with a "D" next to it.
     
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    you mean they have to put the Democrat label on but they DON'T have to put the Republican label on? No.

    They have to put the Republican label on to - so it is just as easy to argue that they required the label so the in-bred trailer trash would know who to vote for.

    Just another BS spin job.
     

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