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    The debate rages on even though 97% of climatologist agree there is cause for concern. Increasingly the opposition is centered in energy funded "scientists" many of whom have no expertise in climate whatever. The sole remaining group that in opposition that has some credibility are the meteorologists, and the most vocal and visible are the TV weathermen.

    One of the stranger arguments seen on this board is, "Climate is changing all the time so therefore it is not our fault". Half true. Climate has changed, and in some cases has changed rather rapidly but to use this excuse to sit on our hands because we are reluctant to part with a few conveniences and a few bucks is regrettable.

    I find it odd that it is recommended that we stand idly by while the American Heartland becomes the Great American Desert.

    As with all things that are both political and expensive it will be left. not to solve itself but to run its course. And run it's course it will.

    You will be able to chart its course not by reported temperatures (they don't mean snot) but by something much more deadly. Hunger. Keep track of the famines, especially where they are unusual, Watch the price of food, especially grain and grain supported food. Watch the drought areas and observe how they contract, expand or shift.

    It is not in the news much now but pay attention to the ocean and the food harvested there. It is diminishing. Pay attention to the reasons why.

    There will be winners and losers, a lot more of the former than the latter.

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    When you start out of the gate with an outright lie, why would anyone wade through the rest of it?
     
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    Run that oinion under cold water while peeling.
    No more tears.
     
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    You were saying? I could go on and on and on...........and on. I don't know why I should the thread was clearly stated as my opinion.


    97% of climatologists say global warming is occurring and caused by humans

    Surveyed scientists agree global warming is real - CNN

    Is there a scientific consensus on global warming?

    Scientific Consensus on Global Warming | Union of Concerned Scientists

    Global Warming: Man or Myth - The Scientific Consensus
     
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    Care to show where that is a lie?

    Is there a scientific consensus on global warming?

    In the scientific field of climate studies – which is informed by many different disciplines – the consensus is demonstrated by the number of scientists who have stopped arguing about what is causing climate change – and that’s nearly all of them. A survey of all peer-reviewed abstracts on the subject 'global climate change' published between 1993 and 2003 shows that not a single paper rejected the consensus position that global warming is man caused. 75% of the papers agreed with the consensus position while 25% made no comment either way, focusing on methods or paleoclimate analysis (Oreskes 2004).

    Several subsequent studies confirm that “...the debate on the authenticity of global warming and the role played by human activity is largely nonexistent among those who understand the nuances and scientific basis of long-term climate processes”. (Doran 2009). In other words, more than 95% of scientists working in the disciplines contributing to studies of our climate, accept that climate change is almost certainly being caused by human activities.

    We should also consider official scientific bodies and what they think about climate change. There are no national or major scientific institutions anywhere in the world that dispute the theory of anthropogenic climate change. Not one.

    In the field of climate science, the consensus is unequivocal: human activities are causing climate change.
     
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    So, you don't like throwing out those whose fields are not strictly related to climatology.

    I have noticed that so many of the anti warmers seem to have unrelated expertise.

    Always nice to have some veterinary opinion in the medical expertise.
     
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    A "few bucks", eh? Exactly who should we be sending our money to that will stop this terrible onslaught of climate change?

    Tell you what. If you so damn sure you know future weather patterns, move the hell away from the water's edge, sell your car and live off tree bark. Your call.

    Then there's this recent study:

    Tree-rings prove climate was WARMER in Roman and Medieval times than it is now – and world has been cooling for 2,000 years « Emerging Truth

    So tell us, which "conveniences" should the Romans have given up to stop all this global cooling...or was it warming?
     
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    So do the activities of termites...and every other living entity on this planet. Climate changes over time. Get over it. None of this gives you or anyone else the right to expand government control or redistribute wealth.
     

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