Just Got Back from the Vet

you need to take some weight off ginger....dachies have a horrible back problem and weight will cause the spine to have problems......expensive ....so get the weight off her...and dont let her jump down from anything.....she shouldnt be jumping at all...
 
I'd get a second opinion, too. Infection sounds like the proverbial horse and tumor sounds like the zebra, IMO. I'd do what you're doing - the antibiotic course. See what results you have, then go to another vet.

By the way, Penny is such a sweet looking dog, even in the pics you originally posted.






Meet Watson (in a rare moment when he is clean):

Watson-1.jpg
 
It always breaks my heart to see a dog get hurt/killed because its owner let it run loose. They deserve better.

Um, my dog wasn't running loose, she was in our fenced-in yard. The stray cats are running loose all over the everyone's yard and were in mine. The reason there are even any stray cats at all is because of the crazy cat lady a few doors down. She keeps feeding and they keep breeding. I let the dog out to chase them out of our yard. I'm tired of smelling tom-cat all over the place.
Trap 'em. Buy a critter trap, they're not expensive, and trap the cats, giving them over to the animal control every morning.

I am glad you have a fenced in yard. You might be able to see where I drew my inaccurate conclusion based on the information given.

You've been around long enough that I would assume you remembered I've said many times that we have a fenced in yard. But thanks for the reminder that I didn't include that info in my original post, so . . . .yeah. Letting your dog just run loose is a) just asking for trouble and b) inconsiderate of everyone else.

As for the cats? I've trapped well over 30 and have taken them to the spca. All were feral. I stopped early this summer because I'm tired of no one else doing anything about the problem. Two separate neighbors (one who lives right next door to the cat lady) made it a point to tell me that there's a trap-spay-release program. When I asked 'hey, did you call them to get them out here?' the reply was 'uh, er no . . I work all day . . . ummmm'. Yeah. Everyone is all happy that someone else is doing something about the problem so they figured they didn't have to put forth any effort.

I might start trapping again seeing as they are hanging in my yard.
 
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I'd get a second opinion, too. Infection sounds like the proverbial horse and tumor sounds like the zebra, IMO. I'd do what you're doing - the antibiotic course. See what results you have, then go to another vet.

By the way, Penny is such a sweet looking dog, even in the pics you originally posted.






Meet Watson (in a rare moment when he is clean):

Watson-1.jpg


He is very cute. Is he a 'digger'? I thought terriers like to dig up the yard. He's darn cute!

I agree with you too. Waiting to see how things go with the antibiotics. Her nose sounds 'juicy' when she breathes (at least when she's walking around), which says to me that there is fluid of some sort trapped in there? The boo-boo on the outside of her nose . . . I think it should look much better by now and it doesn't, which makes me think infection.

I've already decided to a) go to another vet altogether if this doesn't clear up by the time the meds are done and b) likely switch vets anyway, especially if this clears up.
 
I'd get a second opinion, too. Infection sounds like the proverbial horse and tumor sounds like the zebra, IMO. I'd do what you're doing - the antibiotic course. See what results you have, then go to another vet.

By the way, Penny is such a sweet looking dog, even in the pics you originally posted.






Meet Watson (in a rare moment when he is clean):

Watson-1.jpg


He is very cute. Is he a 'digger'? I thought terriers like to dig up the yard. He's darn cute!

I agree with you too. Waiting to see how things go with the antibiotics. Her nose sounds 'juicy' when she breathes (at least when she's walking around), which says to me that there is fluid of some sort trapped in there? The boo-boo on the outside of her nose . . . I think it should look much better by now and it doesn't, which makes me think infection.

I've already decided to a) go to another vet altogether if this doesn't clear up by the time the meds are done and b) likely switch vets anyway, especially if this clears up.

ZB,
Find an older established vet if you can. The young ones have more overhead and are eager to pay off their student loans quickly. Plus they really do not have the necessary experience yet to be the best they can be.
Schoolin is great but without experience you are only 2/3 there.
 
i hate when you lose confidence in your vet....i had that problem...changed vets....i would not do the tests till the meds are over....and then i would look into the cheapest and easiest on the dog to go...o look into a vet school if you decide or have to have the tumor removed....
 
So about a month ago, Penny went a-chasin' those damn stray cats that are roaming around. I let her out at least three times on Friday or Saturday chasing the damn things. A few days after this her nose got swollen, on the top center (behind the black nostril part) and on her right side, up just a bit from her nostrils (next to the bump on the top of her nose). It got swollen pretty good but we didnt' take her to the vet because she's done this before and it always resolved itself. Two weeks later she was still sounding 'stuffy' so we took her. He gave her antihistamine to dry things up, ointment for the outside part (there were two scabs, the bump on the side of her nose turned out to be scabbed over but we thought it was dark fur) and a shot of cortizone. The shot lasted 4-5 days and during that time her nose sounded fine.

Well here we are three weeks later and she is still sounding 'stuffy'. Took her (along with the sick boy) to the vet. After an extremely lengthy wait the doc finally saw her. He examined her (although not nearly as thoroughly as the first vet, imo). He looked up her nose with a flashlight and you can see on her right nostril the part that is a bump-out of nose (on the inside of her nose) is bigger than the same one on the right. He said it could be 1) a localized infection; 2) a fungus infection 3) a bacterial infection or 4) a tumor. His inclination is tumor (wtf?) and he was suggesting the $2,000 'anesthesia, scope, biopsy' procedure done by a specialist 45 minutes away that he would refer us to.

I said 'you think it's a tumor, rather than the fact that she banged her nose'? Yup. 'You don't think she just really traumatized it and that's more likely why it's swollen or it's a localized infection'. No, he thinks perhaps a tumor in her nose and it 'popped' through to the outside of her nose.

:doubt: :doubt: :doubt:

I came home an googled. This dog is portraying zero signs of a tumor and blood work is what I am reading as the first step in determining what further procedures are necessary, not the scope procedure he is for.

I asked him about several courses of treatment, including an antibiotic for a localized infection (which is what we are doing). After it was obvious that I wasn't signing on for any expensive treatment (I wouldn't do that without talking it over with the family but didn't tell him that), he was fairly quick in getting me out of there.

We're going to give the antibiotics a shot and see what happens. I'm no vet but I can tell you that my gut says he is wrong about her nose, I believe she badly banged it (the air flow in her right nostril is restricted) and it's inflamed from that. He says no, it was too long ago it would have resolved. He thinks her banging it is just a coincidence but that there is 'something' there.

Suggestions/advice?

Yes, her sinuses might have scar tissue (rather than tumor) thus causing diviation in her nasal septum.

If that's the case then no treatment is likely necessary unless it's so bad that she's having trouble breathing.

How's her health other than this stuffiness?

Is she happy and active or is she listless and lethargic?

Is she eating normally?

Does she appear to be in pain of any kind?
 
I'd get a second opinion, too. Infection sounds like the proverbial horse and tumor sounds like the zebra, IMO. I'd do what you're doing - the antibiotic course. See what results you have, then go to another vet.

By the way, Penny is such a sweet looking dog, even in the pics you originally posted.






Meet Watson (in a rare moment when he is clean):

Watson-1.jpg


He is very cute. Is he a 'digger'? I thought terriers like to dig up the yard. He's darn cute!

I agree with you too. Waiting to see how things go with the antibiotics. Her nose sounds 'juicy' when she breathes (at least when she's walking around), which says to me that there is fluid of some sort trapped in there? The boo-boo on the outside of her nose . . . I think it should look much better by now and it doesn't, which makes me think infection.

I've already decided to a) go to another vet altogether if this doesn't clear up by the time the meds are done and b) likely switch vets anyway, especially if this clears up.
Not a digger, amazingly. He really does have issues. And, he is now waaaaaaaaay too attached/dependent on me. Poor thing has had too much instability in his life...I adopt him from some family he had been with for eight years - such a new thing for him. The woman who had him did nothing to train him - he was a brat. Her grown son smacked him around...makes me mad. But, within a month or two with me, he was over the brattiness with me. Plus, my English Setter tolerated no brattiness at all. He became attached to the Setter and me pretty well. Then, I had to put down my setter this summer and he went crazy. He would actually bloody his face pushing through the back fence to try to find my setter. He became frantic whenever I left...so much so that he ripped a whole in the carpet.

So, I crate-trained him. He is less frantic, so that's good, but he is now overly dependent on me. Hates having me out of his sight. Last week, I spent a day in the hospital and my BF couldn't even get him to come out of his crate to go potty. He had to entice him out with a piece of steak, then grab him and toss him in the backyard so that he would go potty.

When I got back home the next day, he was even more frantic and now won't leave my side...ever.

Gotta figure out what to do about that.





Anyway, not about me and my dog...you have a good plan, Zoom. Don't know what to say about the cats, though. Man. What a problem.
 
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Paintball gun for the cats?

Naah would get in trouble for that I suppose.
I just shoot the strays, the pound won't accept adult cats and I will not become a cat haven.
All mine (4) are fixed and I will accept no more.
I can get away with shooting them because the nearest house is at least 1/4 mile away.

I regret shooting each and every one of them and curse whomever dumped them in my area.
 
So about a month ago, Penny went a-chasin' those damn stray cats that are roaming around. I let her out at least three times on Friday or Saturday chasing the damn things. A few days after this her nose got swollen, on the top center (behind the black nostril part) and on her right side, up just a bit from her nostrils (next to the bump on the top of her nose). It got swollen pretty good but we didnt' take her to the vet because she's done this before and it always resolved itself. Two weeks later she was still sounding 'stuffy' so we took her. He gave her antihistamine to dry things up, ointment for the outside part (there were two scabs, the bump on the side of her nose turned out to be scabbed over but we thought it was dark fur) and a shot of cortizone. The shot lasted 4-5 days and during that time her nose sounded fine.

Well here we are three weeks later and she is still sounding 'stuffy'. Took her (along with the sick boy) to the vet. After an extremely lengthy wait the doc finally saw her. He examined her (although not nearly as thoroughly as the first vet, imo). He looked up her nose with a flashlight and you can see on her right nostril the part that is a bump-out of nose (on the inside of her nose) is bigger than the same one on the right. He said it could be 1) a localized infection; 2) a fungus infection 3) a bacterial infection or 4) a tumor. His inclination is tumor (wtf?) and he was suggesting the $2,000 'anesthesia, scope, biopsy' procedure done by a specialist 45 minutes away that he would refer us to.

I said 'you think it's a tumor, rather than the fact that she banged her nose'? Yup. 'You don't think she just really traumatized it and that's more likely why it's swollen or it's a localized infection'. No, he thinks perhaps a tumor in her nose and it 'popped' through to the outside of her nose.

:doubt: :doubt: :doubt:

I came home an googled. This dog is portraying zero signs of a tumor and blood work is what I am reading as the first step in determining what further procedures are necessary, not the scope procedure he is for.

I asked him about several courses of treatment, including an antibiotic for a localized infection (which is what we are doing). After it was obvious that I wasn't signing on for any expensive treatment (I wouldn't do that without talking it over with the family but didn't tell him that), he was fairly quick in getting me out of there.

We're going to give the antibiotics a shot and see what happens. I'm no vet but I can tell you that my gut says he is wrong about her nose, I believe she badly banged it (the air flow in her right nostril is restricted) and it's inflamed from that. He says no, it was too long ago it would have resolved. He thinks her banging it is just a coincidence but that there is 'something' there.

Suggestions/advice?

Yes, her sinuses might have scar tissue (rather than tumor) thus causing diviation in her nasal septum. Which is what we are thinking or possibly a little local infection in one of the folds inside her nose or possibly something got stuck in there.

If that's the case then no treatment is likely necessary unless it's so bad that she's having trouble breathing. Not trouble just loud. Like if you had a cold and one side was well blocked, but not quite.

How's her health other than this stuffiness? Perfect!

Is she happy and active or is she listless and lethargic? Happy, happy. Plays, runs around, goes bonkers when you say (and go on a) 'walkie' and has lots of energy.

Is she eating normally? Yup. Her sense of smell seems ok. She sniffed out the treats the vet had in his coat pocket yesterday.

Does she appear to be in pain of any kind? NONE. Not even when you press on her nose or on the boo-boo.

If she did have some kind of tumor . . . wouldn't blood work be the first step in the process of determining that?'

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I'd get a second opinion, too. Infection sounds like the proverbial horse and tumor sounds like the zebra, IMO. I'd do what you're doing - the antibiotic course. See what results you have, then go to another vet.

By the way, Penny is such a sweet looking dog, even in the pics you originally posted.






Meet Watson (in a rare moment when he is clean):

Watson-1.jpg


He is very cute. Is he a 'digger'? I thought terriers like to dig up the yard. He's darn cute!

I agree with you too. Waiting to see how things go with the antibiotics. Her nose sounds 'juicy' when she breathes (at least when she's walking around), which says to me that there is fluid of some sort trapped in there? The boo-boo on the outside of her nose . . . I think it should look much better by now and it doesn't, which makes me think infection.

I've already decided to a) go to another vet altogether if this doesn't clear up by the time the meds are done and b) likely switch vets anyway, especially if this clears up.
Not a digger, amazingly. He really does have issues. And, he is now waaaaaaaaay too attached/dependent on me. Poor thing has had too much instability in his life...I adopt him from some family he had been with for eight years - such a new thing for him. The woman who had him did nothing to train him - he was a brat. Her grown son smacked him around...makes me mad. But, within a month or two with me, he was over the brattiness with me. Plus, my English Setter tolerated no brattiness at all. He became attached to the Setter and me pretty well. Then, I had to put down my setter this summer and he went crazy. He would actually bloody his face pushing through the back fence to try to find my setter. He became frantic whenever I left...so much so that he ripped a whole in the carpet.

So, I crate-trained him. He is less frantic, so that's good, but he is now overly dependent on me. Hates having me out of his sight. Last week, I spent a day in the hospital and my BF couldn't even get him to come out of his crate to go potty. He had to entice him out with a piece of steak, then grab him and toss him in the backyard so that he would go potty.

When I got back home the next day, he was even more frantic and now won't leave my side...ever.

Gotta figure out what to do about that.





Anyway, not about me and my dog...you have a good plan, Zoom. Don't know what to say about the cats, though. Man. What a problem.


Would another dog be the answer to Watson's dependency problem? Could be! :D
 
Paintball gun for the cats?

Naah would get in trouble for that I suppose.
I just shoot the strays, the pound won't accept adult cats and I will not become a cat haven.
All mine (4) are fixed and I will accept no more.
I can get away with shooting them because the nearest house is at least 1/4 mile away.

I regret shooting each and every one of them and curse whomever dumped them in my area.

Paintball guns! :lol: The neighbors would be greatly displeased.
 
He is very cute. Is he a 'digger'? I thought terriers like to dig up the yard. He's darn cute!

I agree with you too. Waiting to see how things go with the antibiotics. Her nose sounds 'juicy' when she breathes (at least when she's walking around), which says to me that there is fluid of some sort trapped in there? The boo-boo on the outside of her nose . . . I think it should look much better by now and it doesn't, which makes me think infection.

I've already decided to a) go to another vet altogether if this doesn't clear up by the time the meds are done and b) likely switch vets anyway, especially if this clears up.
Not a digger, amazingly. He really does have issues. And, he is now waaaaaaaaay too attached/dependent on me. Poor thing has had too much instability in his life...I adopt him from some family he had been with for eight years - such a new thing for him. The woman who had him did nothing to train him - he was a brat. Her grown son smacked him around...makes me mad. But, within a month or two with me, he was over the brattiness with me. Plus, my English Setter tolerated no brattiness at all. He became attached to the Setter and me pretty well. Then, I had to put down my setter this summer and he went crazy. He would actually bloody his face pushing through the back fence to try to find my setter. He became frantic whenever I left...so much so that he ripped a whole in the carpet.

So, I crate-trained him. He is less frantic, so that's good, but he is now overly dependent on me. Hates having me out of his sight. Last week, I spent a day in the hospital and my BF couldn't even get him to come out of his crate to go potty. He had to entice him out with a piece of steak, then grab him and toss him in the backyard so that he would go potty.

When I got back home the next day, he was even more frantic and now won't leave my side...ever.

Gotta figure out what to do about that.





Anyway, not about me and my dog...you have a good plan, Zoom. Don't know what to say about the cats, though. Man. What a problem.


Would another dog be the answer to Watson's dependency problem? Could be! :D
:lol: Likely so. But, it would not be a good idea at this point. I'm going to be traveling for extended periods of time in a bit (up to four months on end), and a new dog would not work.

Watson's going to lose it when that happens.

It's a problem I have to figure out. Yikes.
 
Not a digger, amazingly. He really does have issues. And, he is now waaaaaaaaay too attached/dependent on me. Poor thing has had too much instability in his life...I adopt him from some family he had been with for eight years - such a new thing for him. The woman who had him did nothing to train him - he was a brat. Her grown son smacked him around...makes me mad. But, within a month or two with me, he was over the brattiness with me. Plus, my English Setter tolerated no brattiness at all. He became attached to the Setter and me pretty well. Then, I had to put down my setter this summer and he went crazy. He would actually bloody his face pushing through the back fence to try to find my setter. He became frantic whenever I left...so much so that he ripped a whole in the carpet.

So, I crate-trained him. He is less frantic, so that's good, but he is now overly dependent on me. Hates having me out of his sight. Last week, I spent a day in the hospital and my BF couldn't even get him to come out of his crate to go potty. He had to entice him out with a piece of steak, then grab him and toss him in the backyard so that he would go potty.

When I got back home the next day, he was even more frantic and now won't leave my side...ever.

Gotta figure out what to do about that.





Anyway, not about me and my dog...you have a good plan, Zoom. Don't know what to say about the cats, though. Man. What a problem.


Would another dog be the answer to Watson's dependency problem? Could be! :D
:lol: Likely so. But, it would not be a good idea at this point. I'm going to be traveling for extended periods of time in a bit (up to four months on end), and a new dog would not work.

Watson's going to lose it when that happens.

It's a problem I have to figure out. Yikes.

Ah, poor Watson is going to have a huge confusion when you go.

Guess there's no way you can bring him with you?
 
Would another dog be the answer to Watson's dependency problem? Could be! :D
:lol: Likely so. But, it would not be a good idea at this point. I'm going to be traveling for extended periods of time in a bit (up to four months on end), and a new dog would not work.

Watson's going to lose it when that happens.

It's a problem I have to figure out. Yikes.

Ah, poor Watson is going to have a huge confusion when you go.

Guess there's no way you can bring him with you?
No. That is just impossible.
 

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