Just give them their fucking wall. I bet a good deal could be made.

[ThisIsMe]

So, how about this. The left wants to use other means of securing the border, so, let's do it their way.

Give them 1 month to propose their plan, and 6 months to put it into action. Then we wait for 6 more months and see if it has changed anything. If it does, then it's a good deal, if it doesnt, automatic 15B wall funding.

Does that sound like a fair deal?

 

[Confounding]

So, how about this. The left wants to use other means of securing the border, so, let's do it their way.

Give them 1 month to propose their plan, and 6 months to put it into action. Then we wait for 6 more months and see if it has changed anything. If it does, then it's a good deal, if it doesnt, automatic 15B wall funding.

Does that sound like a fair deal?

That one gets a boo from me.

Try harder.

 

[Confounding]

For a deal with the left to happen you'd have to offer them something they want. They want money for all kinds of shit. Make a trade.

 

[ThisIsMe]

So, how about this. The left wants to use other means of securing the border, so, let's do it their way.

Give them 1 month to propose their plan, and 6 months to put it into action. Then we wait for 6 more months and see if it has changed anything. If it does, then it's a good deal, if it doesnt, automatic 15B wall funding.

Does that sound like a fair deal?

That one gets a boo from me.

Try harder.

Ok, some dialogue here would be good. What dont you like about it?

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Is there seriously nothing? What would it take lefties? People on the right, what would you possibly be willing to offer? Or will you all fight about it forever and accomplish nothing?

Easy peasy. Total Ban on abortion for total gun control. Even trade. Then you have total authoritarian control over the population. A perfect environment for socialism. Honestly, you partisan extremist fucks are dumber than a bag of hammers.

That trade probably wouldn't happen.

Yeah, well, neither of us really knows for sure, do we? It's called 'sarcasm'.

You're trying to shoot down the idea of working together. Why? It can be done in a way that benefits both sides. Nobody is going to get anywhere if there's no cooperation.

-Because it's 2019, and it's critical in politics to be outraged about everything.
-Because it's 2019, and politics have become basically a sporting event overrun by idiots.
-Because it's 2019, and social media/24/7/news media has ruined all rational discourse between Americans.
-Because it's 2019, and people seem to want to beat the tar out of each other because political views differ.

 

[ThisIsMe]

For a deal with the left to happen you'd have to offer them something they want. They want money for all kinds of shit. Make a trade.

The constitution doesnt have provisions for spending like they want to, but it does have provisions for securing the borders.

 

[Confounding]

So, how about this. The left wants to use other means of securing the border, so, let's do it their way.

Give them 1 month to propose their plan, and 6 months to put it into action. Then we wait for 6 more months and see if it has changed anything. If it does, then it's a good deal, if it doesnt, automatic 15B wall funding.

Does that sound like a fair deal?

That one gets a boo from me.

Try harder.

Ok, some dialogue here would be good. What dont you like about it?

The border isn't a priority for the left. You can't change that. They'll never be on board unless you offer them something else. What's something they want that you could live with? I suggested green energy R&D. Invest as much as the cost of the wall. I'm sure there are others.

 

[Confounding]

For a deal with the left to happen you'd have to offer them something they want. They want money for all kinds of shit. Make a trade.

The constitution doesnt have provisions for spending like they want to, but it does have provisions for securing the borders.

I think a trade both sides are happy with is better than an argument.

 

[ThisIsMe]

So, how about this. The left wants to use other means of securing the border, so, let's do it their way.

Give them 1 month to propose their plan, and 6 months to put it into action. Then we wait for 6 more months and see if it has changed anything. If it does, then it's a good deal, if it doesnt, automatic 15B wall funding.

Does that sound like a fair deal?

Their idea of border security is drones taking pics of the invaders crossing the border so they'll have an accurate head-count....Then they decide which state to send each group to and get them registered to vote. It's real simple...they don't want border security and never have.

Right. They say a wall would be ineffective and they have better ways. I say, let's put that to the test. If they are confident they can secure the border without a wall, then let's let them have the chance, but, there should be a provision in the bill that says if there is not a pre determined drop in illegals crossings, then trump gets his wall.

 

[ThisIsMe]

For a deal with the left to happen you'd have to offer them something they want. They want money for all kinds of shit. Make a trade.

The constitution doesnt have provisions for spending like they want to, but it does have provisions for securing the borders.

I think a trade both sides are happy with is better than an argument.

Why capitulate to them for something they have no right, constitutionally, to do.

Nowhere does the constitution allow for redistribution of wealth.

If you try to make a deal with them, they are going to ask for something they shouldn't be asking for. Mark my words, if this ever comes down to a "deal", the left will ask for so much it will make the deal DOA.

 

[Confounding]

Nowhere does the constitution allow for redistribution of wealth.

You don't have to make a deal like that. You don't think there are any deals that could be made with the left? Why did the right even send Trump to Washington then? Did they think he was just going to beat up the Democrats?

 

[Richard-H]

Is there seriously nothing? What would it take lefties? People on the right, what would you possibly be willing to offer? Or will you all fight about it forever and accomplish nothing?

We'll let Trump build his wall if he agrees to open borders.

 

[Confounding]

Is there seriously nothing? What would it take lefties? People on the right, what would you possibly be willing to offer? Or will you all fight about it forever and accomplish nothing?

We'll let Trump build his wall if he agrees to open borders.

You actually want open borders?

Do you understand the implications of what you're suggesting?

 

[impuretrash]

For a deal with the left to happen you'd have to offer them something they want. They want money for all kinds of shit. Make a trade.

There is no political solution. I wish it wasn't so but there's no sense in denying it. I feel like an idiot every time I give the other side the benefit of a doubt. They're not interested in solutions or compromise so why even bother trying?

 

[Richard-H]

Is there seriously nothing? What would it take lefties? People on the right, what would you possibly be willing to offer? Or will you all fight about it forever and accomplish nothing?

Seriously, they tried negotiating a deal before the government shutdown. Trump reneged.

Besides, why should the Dems negotiate? The courts are going to stop Trump's emergency declaration, there never will be a wall, and Trump will completely lose.

 

[Richard-H]

Is there seriously nothing? What would it take lefties? People on the right, what would you possibly be willing to offer? Or will you all fight about it forever and accomplish nothing?

We'll let Trump build his wall if he agrees to open borders.

You actually want open borders?

Do you understand the implications of what you're suggesting?

Do you understand the meaning of a laughing emoji? Do you understand irony? Sarcasm?

 

[Confounding]

They're not interested in solutions or compromise so why even bother trying?

Some of them would be in some situations if the right made tempting offers. You'll never agree when it comes to philosophy but there are ways for both sides to benefit in congress.

 

[Confounding]

Besides, why should the Dems negotiate?

Because they could get something they want out of it if they weren't so unwilling to negotiate.

 

[bripat9643]

Is there seriously nothing? What would it take lefties? People on the right, what would you possibly be willing to offer? Or will you all fight about it forever and accomplish nothing?

You've already been offered amnesty for DACA people, and you turned it down.

 

[Richard-H]

The wall is an idiotic idea. It's not going to happen - and Trump has always known it.

It's all a big drama for the sake of his worshipers.