Just for Fun, Apparantly

Originally posted by crazy canadian
With all the credibility rushing through the blood of the most left-winged, right-winged, powerful, educated, weatlthy people in the world today, what has anyone come up with?
Are you going to leave it up to them?

I certainly don't want to leave it up to out of touch tree huggers and peace activists.
 
Originally posted by crazy canadian
I'm not a tree-hugger or an activist. I live in the same world you do. Why are you all so aggressive? All I'm asking for is ideas, I think that letter I posted threw you all off. It was something you could attack like a piece of meat. Believe me, I contribute to society and lead a very normal life. I came to the message boards to free my own ideas, not to waste my time defending someone elses.

THen you should have deleted all of it but the "I wish I wrote that blah, blah" bit. Tell me, how does the fashion industry make people feel badly about themselves?
 
Originally posted by Sir Evil
Said, that is a question that not be answered, anyone buying that is a little dumb. nobody make nobody feel something, it's called insecurity!

I know, but I wanted to hear her "ideas". I was hoping she would answer something like "they feel bad because of poor working conditions, or low pay". I'm starting to catch on to all this 'Lib" stuff you guys have been talking about.....maybe I'll get off the fence sooner than I had planned :D
 
Hi Said. It's all about a happy medium, taking everyone's ideas from way out in left wing, and way out in right wing, and pulling them into the middle where everyone can agree. Don't go by anyone elses ideas, form your own. Then post them so I can read something that is just yours, and nobody elses.
 
Take out what I said, and listen to yourselves. Why don't you follow Jopjeff's lead and start writing down your own ideas. Uncensored and unattacked.
 
CrazyCanadian, ideas should be criticized. And WE are the smart people you're talking about who decides what ideas are good and bad. Who do you consider "the smart people"? Libs? far from it. They live in a fantasy world where nothing is fair, like spoiled children.
 
Would you like me to put everything back in?
I would like people to list, like gopjeff, the crazy, or not-so-crazy things they think we ought to do. If you were in gov't. All in this thread, uncensored and uncriticized, and go back to the other threads to state what you think. I realized that message boards are a great place for people who don't mind their thoughts being attacked to talk to the rest of the world, but what about the people out there who are scared of people like you guys, and they just won't do it? Wouldn't you like to hear what they have to say? Smart people listen to what others have to say.
 
Part two:
Realizing the dreams of our youth

The gov't needs to take bold steps to help realize the dreams of our youth. Creating a debt-free age zone for young people could be realized if the gov't was in control of gas and trees. No persons under the age of 25 should start paying back any student loans, credit card debt, or personal loans. Credit cards should not be given out without the recipient first having to complete a training course in financial responsibility provided by gov't agencies. People would not be caught in financial restraint when entering young adulthood. Risks taken in the stock market would not have such drastic consequences for individuals. Business could become an honest institution again. Families could be established at a younger age, worries about saving for education and retirement would dissipate, with the help of careful financial education. The anticipated stress of baby-boomer pensions and escalating health care costs would be relieved. The Ultimate Retirement would be waiting for all. Money would be redistributed to increasing benefits to the point of reducing health care costs to a minimum. Research grants would skyrocket. Human advancement would take off .
Religions must find ways to communicate, investigations into religious practices that take human rights into question must be addressed. Changes must be made. We need to abstract religions through the use of symbolism and analyze similarities to create common ground, while preserving separate practices. Issues like abortion could slowly be phased out, as people lead more satisfying lives. There wouldn't be so much to fight about, and an elated human spirit would precipitate world peace. But assimilation issues must be addressed. The rest of the world is afraid of losing identity, just like any individual. Pride is also an issue.
Instead of 'Americanizing' other cultures, Americans need to accept more culture into their own neighborhoods. North America has become a test lot for the mingling of cultures over the past few centuries, creating wealth to be distributed evenly among every race and religion should take care of some of the battles we participate in here at home, and overseas. People would believe in themselves.
 
Part three:
Thoughts and ideas to think about

Natural recurrence of revolt
Signs and signals society is upset

There is no undoing what we have done:
Now, how to change it

Using Government owned gas to run modified cars hooked up to trolly lanes
Creating trolly lanes on existing highways

Reducing Accidents and saving lives

Modern plumbing: Separate catch basin for attaching faucet to save running water while you are waiting for it to change temperature

Worm bins, recycling: introducing built in units in all new houses

Solar panels, wind turbines: Building new neighborhoods with central alternative energy systems, to run parks and community pools.

There must be new laws for housing developments, enforcing alternative energy usage, and eco-friendly neighborhoods.

Rethinking how to experiment genetically
Asking the Gov't to form a second assembly of National Leaders to devise a code which satisfies society morally and ethically for genetic experimentation

Genetic experimentation:
Choosing life over reproduction: If we genetically devise a way for existing humans to remain disease free, reduce the number of accidental deaths, and spread world wealth in such a way to provide an increase in quality of life for all people, would religions then agree to birth control within their religion and keep human beings to a limit of two children per couple, providing a safer, more secure existence for humankind?

Would raising families become easier as communities became more open and people had more free time to help others?
 
Originally posted by crazy canadian
Would you like me to put everything back in?

Yes. I never saw it the first time.
I would like people to list, like gopjeff, the crazy, or not-so-crazy things they think we ought to do. If you were in gov't. All in this thread, uncensored and uncriticized, and go back to the other threads to state what you think. I realized that message boards are a great place for people who don't mind their thoughts being attacked to talk to the rest of the world, but what about the people out there who are scared of people like you guys, and they just won't do it? Wouldn't you like to hear what they have to say? Smart people listen to what others have to say. [/B]

We do listen and we analyze, and we critique, that's part of the process.

Though you seem unaware of it, everything you say is textbook liberal, socialist mindless crap. It's a discredited philosophy. Weak people resort to socialism; it's their way of ganging up on the strong, whom they envy.

As for people who are to afraid to be criticized, they need to grow up. We're adults here. we don't support the perpetual adolescence and refusal to develop coherent value systems that the left seems to favor.

Socialism is stealing.
 
Originally posted by crazy canadian
Part two:
Realizing the dreams of our youth

The gov't needs to take bold steps to help realize the dreams of our youth.



It's not the ROLE of government to realize all our dreams for us.
Creating a debt-free age zone for young people could be realized if the gov't was in control of gas and trees. No persons under the age of 25 should start paying back any student loans, credit card debt, or personal loans. Credit cards should not be given out without the recipient first having to complete a training course in financial responsibility provided by gov't agencies. People would not be caught in financial restraint when entering young adulthood.
Debt free age zone? No. Kids should learn that debts are real, hiding our kids from reality is not the solution to any problems.

Your idea about an economic responsibilty class befor getting a credit card is a good one, though.
Risks taken in the stock market would not have such drastic consequences for individuals.
How?
Business could become an honest institution again.
It's a sweeping generalization to make that all business is corrupt.
Families could be established at a younger age, worries about saving for education and retirement would dissipate, with the help of careful financial education.
Financial education alone doesn't cause debts to dissipate.
And I don't see how you got to families being started at a younger age. You're wacky!
The anticipated stress of baby-boomer pensions and escalating health care costs would be relieved.
How? By the debt free age zone?
The Ultimate Retirement would be waiting for all.
How?
Money would be redistributed to increasing benefits to the point of reducing health care costs to a minimum. Research grants would skyrocket. Human advancement would take off .
Income redistribution is stealing.
Religions must find ways to communicate, investigations into religious practices that take human rights into question must be addressed. Changes must be made. We need to abstract religions through the use of symbolism and analyze similarities to create common ground, while preserving separate practices. Issues like abortion could slowly be phased out, as people lead more satisfying lives. There wouldn't be so much to fight about, and an elated human spirit would precipitate world peace.
Religion is not the CAUSE of war. The fact of humanity being split into factions and the competition of those factions for resources and future control of resources is the cause of war. See Dr. Seusses. Butter side up, Butter side down. It''s arbitrary.
But assimilation issues must be addressed. The rest of the world is afraid of losing identity, just like any individual. Pride is also an issue.
The populations of foreign countries love american stuff. It's their choice. Antiamerican, anticapitalist libs, just hate their choices.
Instead of 'Americanizing' other cultures, Americans need to accept more culture into their own neighborhoods. North America has become a test lot for the mingling of cultures over the past few centuries, creating wealth to be distributed evenly among every race and religion should take care of some of the battles we participate in here at home, and overseas. People would believe in themselves.

Other cultures choose americanization.
 
Here's your agenda cray c.
1. Encourage wreckless spending habits with a debt free age zone.

2.encourage these feckless youngster to have kids during the wreckless spending spree.

3. Now when the fun is over. They will be adults with no sense of responsibility, with mouths to feed, who will most definitely be dependant on government and unable to care for themselves. Little dependant socialists. How perfect for you and your totalitarian left friends.
 
Originally posted by crazy canadian
Would you like me to put everything back in?
I would like people to list, like gopjeff, the crazy, or not-so-crazy things they think we ought to do. If you were in gov't. All in this thread, uncensored and uncriticized, and go back to the other threads to state what you think. I realized that message boards are a great place for people who don't mind their thoughts being attacked to talk to the rest of the world, but what about the people out there who are scared of people like you guys, and they just won't do it? Wouldn't you like to hear what they have to say? Smart people listen to what others have to say.

No, I don't want you to put it back, I'm just not sure why you erased it :confused: Since you may do this again, I won't post in this thread anymore. Yuppies make me sick anyway :mad:
 
Originally posted by crazy canadian
Part two:
Realizing the dreams of our youth

The gov't needs to take bold steps to help realize the dreams of our youth. Creating a debt-free age zone for young people could be realized if the gov't was in control of gas and trees. No persons under the age of 25 should start paying back any student loans, credit card debt, or personal loans. Credit cards should not be given out without the recipient first having to complete a training course in financial responsibility provided by gov't agencies. People would not be caught in financial restraint when entering young adulthood. Risks taken in the stock market would not have such drastic consequences for individuals. Business could become an honest institution again. Families could be established at a younger age, worries about saving for education and retirement would dissipate, with the help of careful financial education. The anticipated stress of baby-boomer pensions and escalating health care costs would be relieved. The Ultimate Retirement would be waiting for all. Money would be redistributed to increasing benefits to the point of reducing health care costs to a minimum. Research grants would skyrocket. Human advancement would take off .
Religions must find ways to communicate, investigations into religious practices that take human rights into question must be addressed. Changes must be made. We need to abstract religions through the use of symbolism and analyze similarities to create common ground, while preserving separate practices. Issues like abortion could slowly be phased out, as people lead more satisfying lives. There wouldn't be so much to fight about, and an elated human spirit would precipitate world peace. But assimilation issues must be addressed. The rest of the world is afraid of losing identity, just like any individual. Pride is also an issue.
Instead of 'Americanizing' other cultures, Americans need to accept more culture into their own neighborhoods. North America has become a test lot for the mingling of cultures over the past few centuries, creating wealth to be distributed evenly among every race and religion should take care of some of the battles we participate in here at home, and overseas. People would believe in themselves.

This would be COMMUNISM pure and simple.
 
I'm not a yuppy. I'm just confused. Thanks for straightening me out everyone, and please don't stop posting on this thread. Since you obviously all go on this message board everyday, and I will be very likely leaving you after this message, why don't you start adding your own input and continue until you have something useful put together that people like me can come in and read. I went through university without taking sociology, psychology, religious studies, etc, and all those ideas were naturally formed from a naive perspective. I didn't know what constituted communism, and now I do. Thank-you. I've been educated in other fields, and I'm trying to catch up on the political side of things, so I can contribute to society in a more useful way. There are plenty of other people out there who are just afraid to admit they don't know things.Thanks for helping me out guys, talk to ya later.

(You do realize there are lots of good ideas out there hidden amongst some pretty messed up ones, like mine, and people are too shy (or weak, as some of you put it) to post them on this board because they are afraid of being attacked. Some of these ideas should be listened to, I think there should be a thread started just for people's ideas who are afraid of being attacked, a moderator could keep them safe)
 

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