Just do us all a favor and kill yourselves.

[ABikerSailor]

Thing is they didn't steal the money. They simply asked the government for it and the government gave it to them. They were quite open with what was going to happen with it.

How exactly is hurting the airline industry going to help anything?

Uh....Avatar........the airline industry was bailed out in the 90's.

Currently it's the banks and mortgage industries.......

Please try to stay current.

 

[Avatar4321]

Uh....Avatar........the airline industry was bailed out in the 90's.

Currently it's the banks and mortgage industries.......

Please try to stay current.

I never said the airline industry was being bailed out. But your solution to this problem is to stop people from flying around. How will causing another industry to fail help anything?

You're actions have consequences.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Didn't say anything about wanting the airlines to fail.

I want those AIG assholes to end up with bird strikes and plane crashes.

Preferably in the ocean.

 

[DiveCon]

Didn't say anything about wanting the airlines to fail.

I want those AIG assholes to end up with bird strikes and plane crashes.

Preferably in the ocean.

and just who owns those planes you want to crash, and dont you think a lot of crashing planes would put a damper on peoples willingness to fly?


do you EVER think your statements out beyond a single point?

 

[Avatar4321]

Didn't say anything about wanting the airlines to fail.

I want those AIG assholes to end up with bird strikes and plane crashes.

Preferably in the ocean.

No. You just want the planes to crash and for people with money to stop flying around.

And what happens if people stop using airplanes or if the airplanes crash?

Oh yeah, the airline industry goes under.

We don't live in a vacuum. Every decision we make has consequences. Every decision others make have consequences. What may seem good to you may have some serious negative reprocussions. Which is exactly my point.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Actually......I only want the planes of the greedy pricks at AIG to crash.

No body else.

And.........I don't want Sully flying for 'em either. Rather see Jackson's chimp Bubbles or the other chimp called Bush Jr. do it.

 

[DiveCon]

Actually......I only want the planes of the greedy pricks at AIG to crash.

No body else.

And.........I don't want Sully flying for 'em either. Rather see Jackson's chimp Bubbles or the other chimp called Bush Jr. do it.

see, i dont want them to die
i want them to go bankrupt and lose everything
then have to live like that for a while

 

[garyd]

Tell me why it is greed to expect people to uphold their end of a contractual agreement.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Tell ya what.......I'll compromise a bit........one AIG asshole for every homeowner that committed suicide because of the meltdown since 2007.

And.......when your whole fucking business is based in lying by hiding things in the contract, and you end up breaking contracts with HOMEOWNERS, then it's greed.

Hey.......I've got nothing against making a buck, do it myself actually. I've got a problem with these bank and mortgage assholes who have caused this mess.

You think people like Madoff should be allowed to keep the money? If so, fuck you, that's greed.

 

[DiveCon]

Tell ya what.......I'll compromise a bit........one AIG asshole for every homeowner that committed suicide because of the meltdown since 2007.

And.......when your whole fucking business is based in lying by hiding things in the contract, and you end up breaking contracts with HOMEOWNERS, then it's greed.

Hey.......I've got nothing against making a buck, do it myself actually. I've got a problem with these bank and mortgage assholes who have caused this mess.

You think people like Madoff should be allowed to keep the money? If so, fuck you, that's greed.

there were no lies
except by Obama(administration) and Dodd
all these things were well know to those in charge
and to those in congress


btw, if you guys had listened to CONSERVATIVES none of them would have got a DIME

 

[ABikerSailor]

None would have gotten a dime?

Wanna bet? I'll bet ya that Halliburton and the Cheney clan would still be raking in dough.

 

[DiveCon]

None would have gotten a dime?

Wanna bet? I'll bet ya that Halliburton and the Cheney clan would still be raking in dough.

piss poor attempt at deflection

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

None would have gotten a dime?

Wanna bet? I'll bet ya that Halliburton and the Cheney clan would still be raking in dough.

piss poor attempt at deflection

It's all she's got DC...

She has been repeatedly challenged to show the elicit profits which she chronically asserts that Cheney swept in... as well as those of that embodiment of all evil: HALIBURTON!... but she's never once managed to offer up anything worthy of consideration.

The usual misinformation about Cheney's payments from Haliburton from income he deferred back in the days when the energy biz was in the tank; back when oil was at $12/brl.

So what's a fruit salad to do but obfuscate?

 

[DiveCon]

i guess he forgets which administration was the first to give a no bid contract to Haliburton

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Well even the "no-bid' notion is a misnomer... those contracts typically require a maximum margin of 2% over cost, with a performance bonus of an additional percent, for a maximum of 3%...

Beyond that there is a litany of 'exclusions from cost' items... so those contracts are only viable for specialists who know their business, and who already have the necessary infrastruture which can exist within the stark cost item limitations.

The projects are enormous, they have ridiculous deadline thresholds and major penalties for failures to meet those deadlines... what's more, they have enormous reserves at risk in 'retainage' deductions, from which the penalties are summarily drawn.

But the idiots look at the tens and hundreds of millions in gross revenue, with no idea and less concern for the BILLIONS that they set at risk to realize that revenue.

 

[DiveCon]

Well even the "no-bid' notion is a misnomer... those contracts typically require a maximum margin of 2% over cost, with a performance bonus of an additional percent, for a maximum of 3%...

Beyond that there is a litany of 'exclusions from cost' items... so those contracts are only viable for specialists who know their business, and who already have the necessary infrastruture which can exist within the stark cost item limitations.

The projects are enormous, they have ridiculous deadline thresholds and major penalties for failures to meet those deadlines... what's more, they have enormous reserves at risk in 'retainage' deductions, from which the penalties are summarily drawn.

But the idiots look at the tens and hundreds of millions in gross revenue, with no idea and less concern for the BILLIONS that they set at risk to realize that revenue.

yeah, but i love the moonbats screams of "HALIBURTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

[ABikerSailor]

Bullshit Infinite Puberty.....you know just as well as I do that the contracts are awarded to those that have the most money to grease the palms of the politicians.

Thanks for playing though......