Just another chapter, but what is next?

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    Liberals across America are championing their greatest achievement in recent history: Obamacare. Touting the fact that millions of Americans will now be covered and no longer will have to worry about acquiring a sickness that could be disastrous; this was definitely another chapter in healing the poor's challenges, Liberals thought.

    But, wait a second. What looks good on paper, and speaking in generalities are very misleading. Despite everything the supporters of bills like these will tell you, the only thing they won't look at is the results. America still has a "poverty population" that is just as noticeable as it was 25+ years ago.

    Food Stamps, Housing, Social Security, Welfare, Disability, Public Education, Unemployment Insurance, TDI, and Healthcare, are all programs intended to cure the problems we talked about earlier. On the contrary, they haven't resolved the problems that they were intended to.

    However, we should all leave this aside for a few moments. My question to everyone is what is next? When do we stop handing out stuff to people and realize that enough is enough? It's a typical question everyone hears, but I'm ready to challenge the opposition.
     
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    this is a legit question, but if ur stil asking u just dont get it Liberals wont be happy til we are Greece or worse off. Is this so hard to understand?
     
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    Instead of giving people a hand up out of a temporary bad situation, we give hand outs making it a way of life.

    The only people who should be on the government dole for more than 2-3 years are those who are diisabled or elderly. We should have stopped giving incentives to stay at home and not work for a living long ago. Hindsight is 20-20. We do nothing for the country or the people by enabling their non responsibility to themselves or their families.
     
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    I agree with most of what you have to say. It has become a way of life for most of America, so it is almost impossible to pass bills that would cut those services. Also, there has to be a better way of giving disability checks out, that is an awfully run system.
     
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    I hope the Chebby Volt has sufficient leg room for you.
     
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    The question usually assumes many things about the nature of America's poor as well as the effectiveness of punishing the poor for being poor, do you think making it harder on the poor makes them more responsible when people usually come to public assistance at low points in their lives as a last ditch effort to keep afloat? Ever fought your way off the bottom? Would someone making your life even more difficult have helped? Nothing helps but help, free advice to to suck it up and get a job does not count as help.
     
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    Some people just don't understand. Facts are stubborn things.
     
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    Are you saying I do not understand something or are you just making a random, general observation of human nature?
     
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    Well your last sentence doesn't make too much sense. I hope you're not implying that people of my kind don't believe in help? The best help is no help.
     
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    Who exactly are you calling your "kind"? And no help is no help. The fact you are overlooking is that the same people who were on public assistance 25 years ago are not the same people who are on it today, people move off, people move on and the welfare queen is practically a myth. If there seems to be more now then the economy is producing more misery and less opportnity than it once did.
     
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