Just a question to atheists and darwinist?

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I have always believed that atheism and darwinism are just another doctrines or religions ...no more.

atheism/darwinism are based upon matrerialism...but their arguments and swear at theists is laughable.

hence I want to ask what is the proof of atheists of their doctrine (God non-existence)?
z'atheists should show a materialist proof of their doctrine since it's always their path of reasoning.

good luck
 
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What is your definition of "Darwanism"?
Have you read any of Darwin's material or taken Biology 101 at a university?
How come 99% of ALL colleges and universities in America teach evolution as fact?
 
I have always believed that atheism and darwinism are just another doctrines or religions ...no more.

atheism/darwinism are based upon matrerialism...but their arguments and swear at theists is laughable.

hence I want to ask what is the proof of atheists of their doctrine (God non-existence)?
z'atheists should show a materialist proof of their doctrine since it's always their path of reasoning.

good luck

You can believe what you want.

On proving a nothing, I suppose it can be done but it's going to be a tortuous process to do so.

What you call “Darwinism” exists only in the minds of those with a fundamentalist view of religion. Others call it “evolutionary theory” and it's widely studied.
 
I have always believed that atheism and darwinism are just another doctrines or religions ...no more.
Why? Atheism is simply lack of belief in gods. There are also many things you don't believe in...assuming you don't believe in unicorns, aliens, fairies, etc, are those specific doctrines or beliefs for you? And the Theory of Evolution is a well backed scientific theory, which has changed much since Darwin's time based on new discoveries. Hardly meets the definition of doctrine or religion...unless the theory of gravity is also a doctrine or religion.

atheism/darwinism are based upon matrerialism.
No, they're not. Oh, and many many theists accept the theory of evolution.

hence I want to ask what is the proof of atheists of their doctrine (God non-existence)?
z'atheists should show a materialist proof of their doctrine since it's always their path of reasoning.
There isn't any. Nor is any required. Atheism is not a doctrine, but rejection/non-acceptance of any religious doctrines. In other words, atheists just don't accept any of the proof or evidence that theists do.
 
what I know is that any action has reaction ,so Is all this creatures are mere result of an explosion or by sudden?
it is very complex to explain what is already explained or tangible by distinct.


I hope atheists will rethink ?
 
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So Just because I cannot clearly understand how humans came into being it means God exists?

There are many things I do not understand but it just proves that I do not understand everything.
 
ok, I think I should be more accurate.

agnosticism is the only ideology out of religion, but atheism and theism are both doctrines. they both have two convictions and arguments.
for example; You will find some persons who believe in ET and others denying their existence. the two get arguments!

hence atheists spent a long time to swear at believers but they never prove their own doctrine, some bigots of "fundamentalists atheists" like Dawkins use darwinism as proof of atheist doctrine but darwinism is known as the most controversial theory even between scientists! :doubt:

only 55% of scientists think that natural selection and chance are the only cause of life and species existence.
 
I have always believed that atheism and darwinism are just another doctrines or religions ...no more.

atheism/darwinism are based upon matrerialism...but their arguments and swear at theists is laughable.

hence I want to ask what is the proof of atheists of their doctrine (God non-existence)?
z'atheists should show a materialist proof of their doctrine since it's always their path of reasoning.

good luck


A quick question on Christiainity before you go to deep into this thread.

Is it true that

1)The God of Judaism is the same God of Christianity?

2) The Jewish God has a compact with Jews that Christians claim was voided

3) This contract was voided when Christ died on the cross?

4)Christ never stated that this voided the original compact between God and man?

5)The arguement for the erasure of such contract is actually convoluted and questionable unless you repeat Christian authority. The same authorities that have a vested interest in the promotion of Christianity?

6)This is not the only questionable theological position Christianity has taken when it concerns the basis and purpose of the religion.
 
I have always believed that atheism and darwinism are just another doctrines or religions ...no more.

atheism/darwinism are based upon matrerialism...but their arguments and swear at theists is laughable.

hence I want to ask what is the proof of atheists of their doctrine (God non-existence)?
z'atheists should show a materialist proof of their doctrine since it's always their path of reasoning.

good luck


A quick question on Christiainity before you go to deep into this thread.

Is it true that

1)The God of Judaism is the same God of Christianity?

2) The Jewish God has a compact with Jews that Christians claim was voided

3) This contract was voided when Christ died on the cross?

4)Christ never stated that this voided the original compact between God and man?

5)The arguement for the erasure of such contract is actually convoluted and questionable unless you repeat Christian authority. The same authorities that have a vested interest in the promotion of Christianity?

6)This is not the only questionable theological position Christianity has taken when it concerns the basis and purpose of the religion.
there is only one God, and it's the same God of 3 religions, but it's the humans and who falsify the message of god to invent trinity and other concepts.
 
From the fossil record, to the modern science of genetics, all evidence supports the fact that life evolved from the single cell to the present diversity. The majority of Christians find the evidence of evolution convincing, and not in conflict with their religion.

I consider myself an agnostic simply because I personally do not know if a diety exist or not. What you know or don't know, I have no way of knowing. So if you say that you believe, I do not find that to challenge my belief, or lack of it, at all. However, if you say that the fossil record, of which I have seen a great deal, is something other than it is, then you had best have evidence.
 
This isn't 1982. All of you guys have the Internet. It's mind numbing that the Internet is available and all the information supporting evolution is available for anyone who wants to actually "learn" something.

All of the the canards are gone and done with. The Mythical Cambrian explosion, "irreducible complexity", transitional forms, microevolution. All the old arguments have been debunked. If you don't know that, it's because you don't want to know.

Just admit it. "I am afraid of reality so I cling to religion because I am afraid to die".

Being an atheist is NOT a religion. It is the lack of believing that mysticism and the supernatural are true. It's like saying, "If you don't believe that astrology is real, then not believing in astrology is your religion". To an atheist, believing in angels and messiahs is just as likely as Marvel Comics being "real people".

Suggesting that "atheism" is a religion is an attempt to make the occult "real". The reason atheist have no supernatural beliefs is because there is NO evidence of the supernatural or the occult or mysticism. The evidence doesn't exist. You can't prove the center of the moon isn't made from soft creamy cheese. But no sane person, without a shred of evidence that the center of the moon isn't made made from soft creamy cheese will ever believe that it is. It's the same with expecting an atheist to believe in sprites and angels and spooks and whatever "unseen" and "never been seen" creatures that those who believe in such fables, in spite of having no evidence, believe that stuff is "real", you just can't see it, or hear it, or feel it, or smell it, or touch it, or measure it.
 
I wish Atheism was a religion, then we would get all the SPECIAL TAX PRIVILEGES believers get. :rofl:
 
From the fossil record, to the modern science of genetics, all evidence supports the fact that life evolved from the single cell to the present diversity. The majority of Christians find the evidence of evolution convincing, and not in conflict with their religion.

I consider myself an agnostic simply because I personally do not know if a diety exist or not. What you know or don't know, I have no way of knowing. So if you say that you believe, I do not find that to challenge my belief, or lack of it, at all. However, if you say that the fossil record, of which I have seen a great deal, is something other than it is, then you had best have evidence.

completely false! :eusa_hand:
all living fossils has defied evolution hypothsis and even refute it
"The evolution in action" of J. Huxley and other biologists is simply the observation of demographic facts, local fluctuations of genotypes, geographical distributions. Often the species concerned have remained practically unchanged for hundreds of centuries! Fluctuation as a result of circumstances, with prior modification of the genome, does not imply evolution, and we have tangible proof of this in many panchronic species-
Pierre-Paul Grassé, Treatise of Zoology
-Bats have remained
unchanged for 50 million years
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-a bony of 210 millions years unchanged
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-A 410-million-year-old Cœlacanth fossil

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Cœlacanth was baptised as "missing link" before fishing tens of it in 40s :lol:

-A 450-million-year-old horseshoe crab is no different to specimens alive today.
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-Australian lungfish from the Devonian period (408-360 million years ago) unchanged!
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-A 155-Million-Year-Old Drogonfly
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-lizard unchanged since 40 million years :cuckoo:
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-a skate presents exactly the same characteristics of today and dated from 245 million years.
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so where's this f*king evolution "fact" ??
 
Well that was interesting. Actually sharks and crocs are in there as well. But is it a surprise that some species haven't evolved because there was no need to do so?
 
Well that was interesting. Actually sharks and crocs are in there as well. But is it a surprise that some species haven't evolved because there was no need to do so?

all living fossils refute all form of evolution, even the authenticity of fossil Archaeopteryx which was exposed as a transitional fossil between dinosaurs and birds have been rejected by Pr Fred Hoyle in his papers series with Lee Spetner.

Alan Feduccia "specialist of birds" called Archaeopteryx an extinct bird.

"But, as by this theory, innumerable transitional forms must have existed, why do we not find them embedded in countless numbers in the crust of the earth?" (Origin of Species, 1859). :cuckoo:
 
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I have always believed that atheism and darwinism are just another doctrines or religions ...no more.

atheism/darwinism are based upon matrerialism...but their arguments and swear at theists is laughable.

hence I want to ask what is the proof of atheists of their doctrine (God non-existence)?
z'atheists should show a materialist proof of their doctrine since it's always their path of reasoning.

good luck


I don't need no proof.

or....I only need to offer up the same anount of evidence that YOU offer up for the existance of god.

none.

This tendency of yours to demand proof from atheists while claiming that you do NOT have to prove anything at all is awfully sellfish of you...


atheism is NOT a religion
 
I don't believe on father christmas; I can prove it
I don't believe on Dracula, I can prove it.

atheism is a doctrine, and followers should prove it "scientifically"!, otherwise they must stay agnostics at least.

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