Judge Throws Out England's Guilty Plea

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    Whoa, this is going to be good.


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    I am very interested in this story. I have to admit, I agree with the judge.
     
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    I think I agree with that...I mean, I could see how a newbie private, without adequate guidlines could assume her conduct was 'just how epw's are treated'...sorta...still..borderline.
     
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    I love it...NO way should this girl serve time nor be punished for what she did..(or didn't do).
     
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    I don't know... it's not like people don't know it's wrong to pose with pictures of naked prisoners. While she may have been obeying orders, all of you ex-military types know that it's still not morally or ethically correct to obey an unlawful order. Therefore, while her punishment may be reduced, PFC England is not innocent.
     
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    Do all military personnel get handbooks that detail they should not pose nude with POWs?
     
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    Agreed. But....

    It is obvious there was a total breakdown in the chain of command within this unit and therefore, if anybody should be held accountable, in my opinion, it should be the platoon leaders, company commanders, battalion commanders and the brigade commander. She was get'n boned by her immediate supervisor. We all know that in a small unit like that, it had to be known and nothing was done about it. That is just one example of the total breakdown of the CoC in my humble opinion.
     
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    No, but they are taught how to handle POW's. Plus, this was an MP unit.... even more the reason they should know
     
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    She's guilty alright, guilty of being a dumb ass...But as far as I'm concerned she committed no crime..hell I went through POW training much worse that what these folks did, and all right here in the USA...Slap her hand and Let the girl go.
     
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    I agree 100%.

    I also think that there are some corrupt MP units out there.
     
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    I'm pretty sure what she did was a crime... but freeandfun's point is well taken - the whole chain of command should be on trial here.
     

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