Journalistic Sham: Haaretz Acknowledges Misleading ‘Apartheid’ Survey Report

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    I expect all of these events, addressed in the article in the OP, are simply a part of Israel's attack on free journalism.

    Independent 972 Magazine discusses the poll, excerpts of their article appear below:


    Poll: Israelis support discrimination against Arabs, embrace the term apartheid



    A majority of the public wants the state to discriminate against Palestinians, says a poll published in Haaretz. The findings don’t reflect a failure in education, as some might argue, but rather the inherently discriminatory nature of the state and the result of decades-long occupation


    Gideon Levy reports in Haaretz today the findings of a survey that reveals deeply-rooted racism in Israeli society, and a desire of most of the Jewish public to practice ethnic segregation between Arabs and Jews. This is the front page story of Haaretz today. The poll was conducted by Prof. Camil Fuchs, one of the respected pollsters in Israel.

    According to the poll, a clear majority in the Jewish public (59 percent) wants the government to give preference to Jews in the admissions to jobs in the public sector, half of the public wants the government to generally treat Jews better than Arabs, and over 40 percent would like to see separate housing and classes for Jews and Arabs.

    Palestinians make up 20 percent of Israeli citizens, and roughly 40 percent of the population under Israeli control (not counting Gaza). Almost half of Israeli Jews (47 percent) want Arab citizens stripped of their citizenship rights, and to be made part of the Palestinian Authority. It is an idea that Avigdor Lieberman and other elements of the right have been pushing for some time.

    There was an interesting part in the survey about the use of the term apartheid. While some people who responded didn’t know it so well, only 31 percent objected to Israel being called an apartheid state (58 supported the use of the term), and 50 percent said apartheid is practiced in a few or in many fields. If the use of the term apartheid is anti-Semitic, as some of Israel’s PR agencies claim – then most Israelis are guilty of anti-Semitism.

    Were the West Bank to be annexed, a clear majority does not want voting rights to be granted to Arabs. At the same time, most Israelis don’t support annexing the West Bank. The poll therefore reflects the Israeli desire to maintain the status quo, a fact I have written about here.

    It’s a well known fact that religious views can predict positions on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in Israel, but there seems also to be a direct link between religious positions and racism. The ultra-Orthodox population expressed the most racist views, followed by the national-religious....

    A note about the meaning of this poll. From my own personal impression on life in Israel, the findings are very consistent with the views you encounter in the public sphere. They reflect the widespread notion that Israel, as “a Jewish State,” should be a state that favors Jews. They are also the result of the occupation, which has completely dehumanized the Palestinians in the eyes of Israelis. After almost half a century of dominating another people, it’s no surprise that most Israelis don’t think Arabs deserve the same rights.

    These positions are the result of legal discrimination and the status quo on the ground. While the Israeli government is ready to try and advance Palestinians on some fields, the dehumanization narrative dominates the political conversation, and there is zero readiness to challenge the inherent discrimination in the system itself (not to mention the occupation). This poll is therefore not a failure of education – as some might want to see it – but a problem inherent in the system itself. Only an end to the occupation and a move towards an egalitarian model of citizenship – “a state for all its citizens” – can bring the desired change in attitude by Jews. When the system treats Arabs as equal, public perception will follow."


    Poll: Israelis support discrimination against Arabs, embrace the term apartheid | +972 Magazine

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    so, for once, ha'aretz exaggerated

    i already knew that just by reading it

    but its a case of no smoke without fire

    if a few reports "damaged israel's image abroad"

    then this image is fragile and easily wounded on the racist front

    full on aparthied...not quite yet but getting there fast

    racist yes, and you dont need no survey to know that

    lieberman's vote is one sure guide

    treatment of african asylum seekers which also had wide coverage is another

    israel is falling into a racist crevass and no doubt at all whatsoever
     
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    from Kvetch>>>
    "so, for once, ha'aretz exaggerated"


    Kvetch----YOUR MOST BRILLIANT STATEMENT SO FAR
    hold on to it----you can use it in
    in your stand-up job at the brothel
     
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    Islamic Morality: Love Thy Neighbor Only If Muslim

    I wonder if the good Christian Sherri ever concerns herself with persecution of Christians.

    Muslim Persecution of Christians: September, 2012 :: Gatestone Institute
     
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    I'm quite sure she does...

    far more than you and mahraba who just see arab christians as useful pawns to beat up the muslims with

    and shed crocodile tears

    and dont give a hoss flying fuck about anyone but jews and yanx

    shabat shalom
     
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    Just whom do you think you are kidding, Zombie Robot (AKA the blabbering meshugeneh kvetching Yenta)? She is only obsessed with one area of the world, as is quite obvious. Now go tell whomever sticks a tape in you every day that you need a few squirts of oil. And an Auf Wiedersehen to you, Islamofascist.

    Pastor Arrested for Blasphemy in Pakistan « Persecution News
     
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    reality reveals that christian populations that pre-existed the invasion of those countries by muslims------were decimated in some of those countries TO ZERO but lets not become contentious about it-----sherri will explain why its the JOOOOOS who caused the problem
     
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    you are losing it hossie fly boy

    none of your usual wit, there................... only arrant nonsense

    that's the most idiotic drivel even you have ever said

    so much in my posts about my beloved india and about UK USA and many lands

    you need to hoss fly around a bit and not get cabin fever....

    get a life!!
     
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