Jon Stewart Takes on Betsy McCaughey and Death Panels

Maybe the Republicans can ask for another $3.4 BILLION DOLLARS in contributions from the healthcare corporations.

Don't Dems have absolute rule over Congress and the Presidency? When will you stop these limp, flaccid excuses?

They do.

And they should stop cowtowing to the silly Republicans in Congress and just pass a bill that is good for America.

What if Tina Fey went before key Dem Senators and pretended she was Palin and asked for reinstatement of the Obama Health Care Pogrom Death Panels.

It could work.

Seriously. Consider it.
 
Oh, Those Death Panels
Posted by Amy Sullivan Thursday, August 13, 2009 at 10:14 pm
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You would think that if Republicans wanted to totally mischaracterize a health care provision and demagogue it like nobody's business, they would at least pick something that the vast majority of them hadn't already voted for just a few years earlier. Because that's not just shameless, it's stupid.

Yes, that's right. Remember the 2003 Medicare prescription drug bill, the one that passed with the votes of 204 GOP House members and 42 GOP Senators? Anyone want to guess what it provided funding for? Did you say counseling for end-of-life issues and care? Ding ding ding!!

Let's go to the bill text, shall we? "The covered services are: evaluating the beneficiary's need for pain and symptom management, including the individual's need for hospice care; counseling the beneficiary with respect to end-of-life issues and care options, and advising the beneficiary regarding advanced care planning." The only difference between the 2003 provision and the infamous Section 1233 that threatens the very future and moral sanctity of the Republic is that the first applied only to terminally ill patients. Section 1233 would expand funding so that people could voluntarily receive counseling before they become terminally ill.

So either Republicans were for death panels in 2003 before turning against them now--or they're lying about end-of-life counseling in order to frighten the bejeezus out of their fellow citizens and defeat health reform by any means necessary. Which is it, Mr. Grassley ("Yea," 2003)?
GOP Supported End-of-Life Counseling in 2003 Medicare Bill - Swampland - TIME.com
 
"The only difference between the 2003 provision and the infamous Section 1233 that threatens the very future and moral sanctity of the Republic is that the first applied only to terminally ill patients. Section 1233 would expand funding so that people could voluntarily receive counseling before they become terminally ill."

Terminally ill and not terminally is almost the exact same thing!

Thanks for highlighting that Dems wants to treat everybody as if they were terminally ill, hence "Death Camps" in the ObamaCare Final Solution Porgom
 
Seriously. Ask Tina Fey to do the heavy lifting for you here.

You guys are totally fucking it up on your own
 
Maybe Dems can Ezekiel Emanuel or John Holdren to watch after their parents and grandparents?

Maybe the Republicans can ask for another $3.4 BILLION DOLLARS in contributions from the healthcare corporations.

If that's what it takes to save America from the Dems' BANKRUPT AMERICA HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN, maybe they should. In case you haven't noticed the major health insurers support virtually all the reforms Obama proposes other than the public plan, and it is not clear whether he any longer supports the public plan or not. They especially support universal health insurance and the individual mandate because these will prove to be profit bonanzas for health insurers, but they will be budget busters for individual households - since each of the reforms such as standard rate coverage for pre existing conditions, continuation of benefits when premiums can't be paid because of illness and caps on out of pocket expenses will increase health insurance premiums for those who now have health insurance - and the federal government - since without a ouija board or an expectation of rationing of health care services it is impossible to find significant savings to offset the enormous increase in spending the subsidies will entail in any of the bills in Congress or in anything Obama has implied, suggested, hinted that he might support.

In addition, raising the eligibility for Medicaid to 150% of the poverty line, as HR 3200 does, will force many states now struggling to maintain existing services to either raise state taxes, cut back on existing services or run unmanagable deficits.

If asking "healthcare corporations" for $3.4 billion dollars is necessary to save individual households from having to pay even higher health insurance premiums, to save the federal government from having to deal with even more uncontrollable deficits and to save the states from financial ruin, then by all means, the Republicans should go for it.
 
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Maybe Dems can Ezekiel Emanuel or John Holdren to watch after their parents and grandparents?

Maybe the Republicans can ask for another $3.4 BILLION DOLLARS in contributions from the healthcare corporations.

Speaking of which, didn't Barack "we will televise the Health Care negotiation on CSpan" Obama cut a back room $85B deal with Big Pharma?
 
She really looked like a moron in that debate.

You knew it was going to be bad when she showed up with a binder with 1/2 of the bill in it.

Watching her flip through that thing on national TV to try and find the relevant passages was just painful.
 
She really looked like a moron in that debate.

You knew it was going to be bad when she showed up with a binder with 1/2 of the bill in it.

Watching her flip through that thing on national TV to try and find the relevant passages was just painful.
It was absolutely one of the best interviews ever.

I love how Jon so cleanly and neatly eviscerated her.

The question is now: Will she ever show her face again? lol.
 
She really looked like a moron in that debate.

You knew it was going to be bad when she showed up with a binder with 1/2 of the bill in it.

Watching her flip through that thing on national TV to try and find the relevant passages was just painful.

You don't see how funny it is that you have a problem with her referring to what the bill actually says?
 
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MCCaughey has since quit.

Jon Stewart Takes On Betsy McCaughey and Death Panels
Posted by Gina Telaroli on August 21, 2009 at 11:06 am

Yeah, I had posted this up here too, but I didn't know she quit. She was nothing but a complete shill for PHRMA, another paid liar. And for someone who came into an interview with the bill in her hand, she was woefully unprepared for some basically anticipated questions.

My favorite line though was when she said someone must have taken that page.

Betsy McCaughey, Liar - Lies - Gawker

http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200902120027 <--- her letter to phrma
 
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I think what our main focal point is why do Republicans hate America so much, and why do they never want an honest debate on issues? Hmm... I wonder what the answer is.
 
I think what our main focal point is why do Republicans hate America so much, and why do they never want an honest debate on issues? Hmm... I wonder what the answer is.
Because the only way their ideas can flourish in the free marketplace of ideas is to lie and misrepresent.

Seems getting caught in these bald faced lies doesn't even faze them anymore. They know there will always be enough wingers with cognitive dissonance who will keep lying for them, no matter how much the actual evidence disproves them.
 
I think what our main focal point is why do Republicans hate America so much, and why do they never want an honest debate on issues? Hmm... I wonder what the answer is.
Because the only way their ideas can flourish in the free marketplace of ideas is to lie and misrepresent.

Seems getting caught in these bald faced lies doesn't even faze them anymore. They know there will always be enough wingers with cognitive dissonance who will keep lying for them, no matter how much the actual evidence disproves them.

You get two points! Their ideas are so utterly bankrupt, and not of benefit to the majority of americans that they need to create think tanks that can create false talking points and spread them to their media.

This is why when Regan came in they needed to repeal the fairness doctrine asap, because they knew going forward, there was no way they could have honest debate in the media any longer. If they do this, things like what just happened on a freaking comedy show (Jon Stewart) will end up exposing ridiculous lies.

So now they can talk whatever non-sense on their shows, with no real debate on the issues, and become the mouth piece for their corporate sponsorships directives. :clap2:
 
The only place on the planet where Libs have their views on ObamaCare Pogrom taken seriously is on Comedy Central.

Duly noted.
 
The only place on the planet where Libs have their views on ObamaCare Pogrom taken seriously is on Comedy Central.

Duly noted.

The only place where a real interview and debate can occur is on a comedy show. That is truly sad.... if the "liberal" media (cough), had ever been doing it's job, these questions would have been asked long ago. We all lose when this isn't occurring.

But look, when it happens, people are shown how ridiculous and what liars they are. This is a person (Betsy McCaughey) that has been resourced and referenced by countless media sources, and was considered a top expert in health care. One interview later, and she is gone.... the power of the truth.
 
I like it when people say well he's just a comedian. She came armed with all kinds of "facts", I use that term loosly, and found that he is more prepared than you expect him to be.

She is making charges that there is a death panel clause and Obama is ready to kill grandma, she'd better be more ready to prove that than she was.

She should be embarrassed.

The Senate took the provision out of their version of the bill.

Try to keep up on current events
Then why was Betsy attacking it?
 
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The only place on the planet where Libs have their views on ObamaCare Pogrom taken seriously is on Comedy Central.

Duly noted.

The only place where a real interview and debate can occur is on a comedy show. That is truly sad.... if the "liberal" media (cough), had ever been doing it's job, these questions would have been asked long ago. We all lose when this isn't occurring.

But look, when it happens, people are shown how ridiculous and what liars they are. This is a person (Betsy McCaughey) that has been resourced and referenced by countless media sources, and was considered a top expert in health care. One interview later, and she is gone.... the power of the truth.
:clap2:
 
She really looked like a moron in that debate.

You knew it was going to be bad when she showed up with a binder with 1/2 of the bill in it.

Watching her flip through that thing on national TV to try and find the relevant passages was just painful.

You don't see how funny it is that you have a problem with her referring to what the bill actually says?

What was funny is she couldn't refer to anything because she couldn't find it. Stewart even told her to use post-it notes so she can find things faster.

She was terrible, even for a wingnut.
 

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