Jon Stewart Isn't Thinking Or Seeing Things Clearly About The Right

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    The Rachel Maddow/Jon Stewart Interview Revealed Some Things About Jon I Didn't Like.

    As I watched the interview a little while ago I shook my head in great disappointment in Jon. How could he get it so wrong? So I turned to one of my friends and had a chat with them and the said the following....

    "The failure of Jon Stewart's "Can't We All Just Get Along" argument lies in the fact that we've already BEEN where he's saying we need to go. It didn't work out too well. It didn't work out well because the right wing doesn't WANT to get along. They want to win. They.Want.It.All

    We've lived in a world where the so-called left abandoned the broadcast field to the right-wing and all its myriad toxins. That's what the 80's and 90s were, as well as the majority of this decade. It is a fact that for every hour of "liberal" broadcasting, there are ONE THOUSAND hours of right-wing hatecasting in our country.

    With no opposition, the right-wing talking points vomited forth daily by the Limbaughs, Savages, Schlesingers et al. ad nauseam became, de facto, the way the nation saw the issues in those decades. Does anyone recall that the incoming '94 Repig freshmen named Limbaugh an honorary member? They didn't do that because he's cute. They did it because he played a major role in shaping and controlling the dialogue and discourse in this country. He was able to do that because there was almost no one (with the exception of Mike Malloy, who has soldiered on through it all; if Stewart heard Malloy he'd probably start having kittens with crocheted tails) opposing them.

    So along came "Crossfire," with a pair of democrats giving as good as they got. It was quite popular for awhile. Then Jon Stewart came on, declared them "dicks," "Crossfire" was gone, and liberals were silenced again on cable. Jon Stewart is recycling that schtick again, only this time he's getting some pushback.

    There's pushback this time because an itsy-bitsy, teensy-weensy few liberals have actually gotten some broadcast time. And they, in their varied ways, are giving as good as we've gotten for decades. In short, they're handing the right-wing what the right-wing's been dishing out with impunity for years and years. Apparently, Jon Stewart doesn't like that.

    But again, the problem lies in the fact that Stewart's thesis is just plain wrong. If you take Maddow and Olbermann and Schultz off the air, Fox will not become more benign, more benevolent, less malignant and toxic. They and Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity, Beck etc. will continue to spew. The ONLY way to combat that is to oppose them on their own ground, in their own medium, and give the American people a choice between competing points of view.

    The other side are bullies. It really IS that simple. One NEVER beats a bully by speaking gently to him in soothing, dulcet tones accompanied by a gentle refrain of "Kum-by-yah" in the background. When you do that, the bully punches you in the face, takes your milk money, spits on you and kicks dirt in your face.

    I for one, have long been tired of eating right-wing dirt. I do what little I can to be part of the pushback. It's a wonder to me that some people who call themselves "liberal" and "progressive" want to keep eating the dirt. Then again, why should I wonder? When the Children of Israel sought freedom and wound up in the desert, there were plenty who advocated going back to Pharaoh. After all, they reasoned, Pharaoh gave them three hots and a cot.
     
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    you've totally misunderstood Jon Stewart on that program. So did Rachel on many points.

    The echo chamber of people who hang out on cable has you both misreading things.

    I do not particularly care for Jon's sophomoric brand of satire. I always found Carlin a bore too. But, I take Jon at his word that he is mainly an artist/entertainer/comedian, and not a newscaster.

    I loved his rally and loved the fact that he did not try and make it into what 'others' wanted it to be. It was funny and fun. I know people who went. They enjoyed themselves.


    I agree with Rachel that the GOP sometimes embraces the right wing fringe whereas the Dems do not embrace the left wing fringe. You'll never see Code Pink getting the backing from the DNC to run candidates, or worse sitting in Congressional seats. You'll never see the anti-war left making policy (even under Obama they have been used. LOL).

    but the point is you are unhappy because you have misread Stewart. He has never pretended to be anything but what he is. That I respect him for. He hasn't changed much since he played in Boston ages ago. Nice guy. Self-centered little twerp. An Emerson College type.

    :lol:
     
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    You sound just like rdean. Everything you wrote, or copy-pasted from someone else, can just as easily be applied to Democrats.
     
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    Marc, every criticism that you make about the right is equally applicable to the left. Grow the fuck up, little man.
     
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    MarcATL has crossed into the Rdean Zone.

    Yeah, Marc, Liberals have been silent and voiceless. Limbaugh, the editorial page of the Wall Street Journal and Crossfire shut you guys down.

    It really speaks to how stupid and vacuous you morons were at the height of your power. Now that you have no media monopoly and all your ideas get laughed at and rejected I can understand why you might not like it.

    It's just too fucking bad for you morons, but at least I can understand your bitterness and frustration
     
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    All together now, awwwwwwwww

    Mac was LET DOWN by a Comedian.:lol:
     
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    a "comedian" who is far more sane than you. :thup:
     
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    They love Stewart when he is bashing the right, hate him when he is bashing the left.

    They don't understand that he makes fun of anything that will draw a laugh, that's what he is paid to do.

    And there is plenty on both sides to profit from, if you are in his seat.

    He's a very funny guy, and I admire his ability to tell ALL of us, no matter left or right, what dumbasses we are, while still being able to make us tune in every night for our daily scolding.
     
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    Jon Stewart is the New Cronkite. More Libs get their news from Jon Stewart than any other source
     
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    you're the one who's being a moron, hon. And you're the one who sounds 'bitter and frustrated'.

    basically, what stewart has said, and what joe scarborough says every morning as well, is that the loons on the fringes need to shut up and let the grown ups actually fix things, because you can't even have a discussion about HOW to fix things or even what is actually wrong, while you're busy spouting the wingnut talking points.
     

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