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  1. westwall
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    No we attack your claim to be "anti-party". You are a progressive of the first order, that makes you a member of the most destructive, murderous, group (PARTY) the world has ever seen.
     
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    I am pro-party. Cake, ice cream, funny hats, noise makers, what is there not to like? Let's party!
     
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    A (human) embryo does not have human qualities....... Thanks for breaking that down for me.
     
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    I'm certainly not against SMART progress. If you have people teaching you that progress is everything bad in America then you need to re-think your political skills. Even the Constitution was written to be progressive.....

    To stop time and the ability to change would mean you have no ability to learn....... Because when you learn things, you change...

    Progress/change isn't a bad word because a politician used it as a slogan...:banghead:
     
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    Your language in this post makes it difficult to believe that you're actually anti-abortion.

    "Leftists believe in Science and they believe that at certain stages the embryo has no signs of human qualities."

    The implication here, based on the fact that you included that leftists believe in science, is that science believes that at certain stages the embryo has no signs of human qualities.

    If you imply that science believes this, you imply that it is reality.

    If your belief is that physical reality tells us that the embryo isn't human until a certain point, and you are not a religious man, then you believe that the embryo isn't a human until a certain point.

    You either see nothing wrong with abortion up to this certain point, or you have a soft spot for parasites, which is how you would define a non human organism feeding off of its host's life functions.

    What makes it really funny is that your initial claim is silly as shit. What "science" is it that you speak of that ignores that the embryo, from conception, has distinctly human genes? Or that it's the product of human sperm and egg cells, and attaches itself to the uterus just like every other human embryo did at one time or another?

    The distinction in human qualities and whether that embryo is human or a parasite is a purely philosophical debate, it isn't the science vs religion question you make it out to be, and the fact that you've drawn the line there, coupled with the fact that you, yourself, aren't religious, really makes your singular claim to a non-democrat ideal pretty f'in fishy.

    When all your own reasoning would inevitably point someone of your mindset in the direction that abortion simply favors the rights of a human over a non-human, but you claim that your conclusion is the opposite, I can't help but smell bullshit.

    Or, if the science and leftists statement really is something that you think, -and- you truly believe that abortion is inherently wrong, maybe your logic is just completely piss-poor, in which case you're a funny guy for thinking that you've got anything substantive to say about anything substantive :)
     
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    ^The bias are still attacking... "You have to be a Leftist! YOU DON'T AGREE WITH ME!"

    My perspective on abortion is this.....;

    If everyone had access to birth control, why would abortion be a necessary for anyone? Abortion would be obsolete... (and one topic voters would stop voting for turds ready to sell out America based on ONE TOPIC)

    But I'm sure you think women should just keep their legs shut if they don't want to get pregnant and meanwhile, you have no responsibility in the matter.
     
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    Everyone does have access to birth control./contraceptives, yet abortion still exists. Maybe if your brain could think beyond one topic you would realize how stupid it sounds to claim that one topic is all that matters.
     
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    I like that you assume I'm biased in the opposite direction of my actual bias.

    I am absolutely against the Federal government weighing in on abortion at all.

    Personally, I believe the fetus is a human, if you made one and you have to kill, you fucked up. I believe it to be morally wrong.

    I know, however, that I can't prove it's humanity on a philosophical level, and I accept that the argument could be made, though it doesn't suit my beliefs, that the fetus is a parasite until some point in its development.

    As a libertarian, I'm opposed to the government imposing virtually any sort of moral standards, regardless of whether or not I happen to agree with the particular moral in question.

    So, actually, your stated conclusion is perfectly in line with my own on this issue. The fact that you've stated that -science- states that a fetus has no human characteristics baffles me, though, and implies that you, who have stated many times that you side with science, believe that a fetus has no human characteristics. If that's your belief, why are you opposed to killing one? I honestly don't get it.

    Are you opposed to killing tape worms? If the fetus isn't human, its practically the same as a tape worm. Where do you drawn the line? Which parasites are to be protected?

    No, it's not that you don't agree with me that makes you a leftist. It's the fact that you're a leftist that makes you a leftist. The fact that the only thing that you disagree with the Dems on is abortion, but that your conclusion on abortion flies in the face of your reasoning, makes me think your'e less anti-party than you claim to be. You don't like the idea of being a sheep-like partisan follower, but unfortunately you are one. It's my suspicion that if this abortion thing isn't outright bullshit so you can separate yourself from a purely partisan Democrat, then you're clinging to it as a psychological defense against having to admit that you are what you rail against.
     
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    Everyone with money...

    But the inability to think beyond ones self is a hard obstacle for some. WELCOME TO POLITICS
     
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    I REALLY didn't have to read beyond this because it's true in so many stories, "As a libertarian, I'm opposed to the government imposing virtually any sort of moral standards, regardless of whether or not I happen to agree with the particular moral in question.
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    Don't you understand that everything Government made was based on MORALS. Libertarian party paints "Governemnt is always bad" but what about the 2A, wasn't that based on MORALS. Isn't LIBERTY in general based on morals?!

    What Libertarians lack is the fact that THE PEOPLE run the Government, not the other way around. THE PEOPLE can change the government at any time through the correct process. They can even change the Constitution.

    What I've heard lately from MANY Libertarians is that "the people don't know what is best for them anymore" because that is what Fox News paints for them.

    UNITED WE STAND.........Put your trust in the people and the people will be the best America always. Put your trust in government or corporations (the same), we will never be successful.
     

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