John Forbes Kerry Decorated American Combat Veteran

[Procrustes Stretched]

I could really care less about draft dodging in relation to the comment, but those cysts resulted in something like 100,000 troops being hospitalized in WW2 it was called something like Jeep Seat Disease. it can be a condition that is pretty painful. I read about them sometime ago because a friend of mine had to have several surguries due to a recurring one. He was in a lot of pain since it is deep and sits on the tail bone and had several issues because of it. Just thought it was interesting when I read it.

yet Rush was able to sit on his fat drug addled ass for decades doing radio for hours at a time. go figure

Like I said I was not commenting about Rush but rather the disease itself. Once it is operated on and removed one can be fine, it can reoccur, Jason kept having that problem until they did some special surgery of some sort. I just found it interesting that near 100,000 troops were hospitalized because of the issue during one war alone.

Rush's dad had the same excuse? Anyway, I doubt Rush couldn't have served in some capacity. Friggin creep

 

[Wicked Jester]

Politically, I can't stand John Kerry; just another democrat Obama worshiping limousine liberal.

But to attack his vietnam war record is beyond despicable.

Especially when it comes from fellow VNV vets.

Kerry was part of the brown-water navy and in command of a Swift boat.

Swift boats were in constant action and engaged in many fire fights; mainly from ambushes.

And the casualty rate for crew members was extremely high.

Hate him for his politics.......that's fine.

But he is a decorated war hero who should be thanked for his servive to our nation.

It's not about what he did during his service, Sunni, it's about what the POS did after his service.

He should have married Jane Fonda.....they could have spawned Bradley Manning.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Politically, I can't stand John Kerry; just another democrat Obama worshiping limousine liberal.

But to attack his vietnam war record is beyond despicable.

Especially when it comes from fellow VNV vets.

Kerry was part of the brown-water navy and in command of a Swift boat.

Swift boats were in constant action and engaged in many fire fights; mainly from ambushes.

And the casualty rate for crew members was extremely high.

Hate him for his politics.......that's fine.

But he is a decorated war hero who should be thanked for his servive to our nation.

It's not about what he did during his service, Sunni, it's about what the POS did after his service.

He should have married Jane Fonda.....they could have spawned Bradley Manning.

YEah he fought to end the war early and bring the boys back home .

Kerry deserves the goddamned Medal of Freedom for his anti war efforts. Took a lot of balls at the time.

What the fuck ...?>

 

[Wicked Jester]

Politically, I can't stand John Kerry; just another democrat Obama worshiping limousine liberal.

But to attack his vietnam war record is beyond despicable.

Especially when it comes from fellow VNV vets.

Kerry was part of the brown-water navy and in command of a Swift boat.

Swift boats were in constant action and engaged in many fire fights; mainly from ambushes.

And the casualty rate for crew members was extremely high.

Hate him for his politics.......that's fine.

But he is a decorated war hero who should be thanked for his servive to our nation.

It's not about what he did during his service, Sunni, it's about what the POS did after his service.

He should have married Jane Fonda.....they could have spawned Bradley Manning.

YEah he fought to end the war early and bring the boys back home .

Kerry deserves the goddamned Medal of Freedom for his anti war efforts. Took a lot of balls at the time.

What the fuck did you do tough guy?>

More than you, Toots!

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

It's not about what he did during his service, Sunni, it's about what the POS did after his service.

He should have married Jane Fonda.....they could have spawned Bradley Manning.

YEah he fought to end the war early and bring the boys back home .

Kerry deserves the goddamned Medal of Freedom for his anti war efforts. Took a lot of balls at the time.

What the fuck ...?>

More than you, Toots!

never met...oops!

 

[Katzndogz]

John F Kerry bravely served four months in Viet Nam and survived a deadly papercut.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

John F Kerry bravely served four months in Viet Nam and survived a deadly papercut.

actually... you are calling all these decorated combat veterans liars?

shame on you

you side with people like Corsi


During John Kerry's candidacy in the 2004 U.S. presidential campaign, a political issue that gained widespread public attention was Kerry's Vietnam war record. In television advertisements and a book called Unfit for Command, co-authored by John O'Neill and Jerome Corsi, the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth (SBVT), a 527 group later known as the Swift Vets and POWs for Truth...

Silver Star

Kerry's medal citation indicates that he charged into an ambush, killing an enemy preparing to launch a rocket. In his 1969 performance evaluation, Elliot wrote "In a combat environment often requiring independent, decisive action, LTJG [Lieutenant Junior Grade] Kerry was unsurpassed.

He constantly reviewed tactics and lessons learned in river operations and applied his experience at every opportunity.

On one occasion, while in tactical command of a three boat operation his units were taken under fire from ambush. LTJG Kerry rapidly assessed the situation and ordered his units to turn directly into the ambush. This decision resulted in routing the attackers with several KIA [Killed in Action]. LTJG Kerry emerges as the acknowledged leader in his peer group. His bearing and appearance are above reproach."[39]

Kerry’s crew members who were there that day do not agree with Elliott’s characterization of the event in his 2004 affidavits. They contend that the enemy soldier, although wounded, was still a threat.

For example, one of them, Fred Short, said, "The guy was getting ready to stand up with a rocket on his shoulder, coming up. And Mr. Kerry took him out … he would have been about a 30-yard shot. … [T]here's no way he could miss us."[45] Del Sandusky, Kerry’s second in command, described the consequences to the lightly armored Swift Boat: "Charlie would have lit us up like a Roman candle because we're full of fuel, we're full of ammunition."[46] Another witness stated that the VC "had an entry wound at the side of his chest and exit wound at the opposite side of the chest cavity, a wound that was consistent with reports of the man turning to fire a second B-40 rocket."[47]

The only member of SBVT who was present that day, Larry Clayton Lee, has stated he believes Kerry earned the Silver Star.[4]

Another eyewitness, William Rood, a former Chicago Tribune editor, in a 2004 article gave an account that supports Kerry's version of the events of that day. Rood was commander of PCF-23, which was one of the two Swift Boats that accompanied Kerry's PCF-94.

Rood discounted several specific charges made by SBVT about the incident. In his (second-hand) book account, O'Neill implied that Kerry chased down a lone "teenager in a loincloth clutching a grenade launcher which may or may not have been loaded," without coming under enemy fire himself.

In contrast, Rood stated that there were multiple attackers, there was heavy hostile fire, and the guerrilla Kerry shot was "a grown man, dressed in the kind of garb the Viet Cong usually wore" armed with a "loaded B-40 rocket launcher".

Also, O'Neill called Kerry's tactic of charging the beach "stupidity, not courage." Similarly, Hoffman characterized Kerry's actions as reckless and impulsive. However, Rood stated that Kerry's tactic of charging the beach was discussed and mutually agreed with the other Swift boat commanders beforehand.

He also notes that, at the time, Hoffman praised all three Swift boat commanders and called the tactics developed "a shining example of completely overwhelming the enemy" and that they "may be the most efficacious method of dealing with small numbers of ambushers."[48][49] O'Neill responded that Rood's criticism was "extremely unfair" and stated that Rood's account of events is not substantially different from what appeared in his book Unfit for Command, for which Rood had declined an interview.[50] T

ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kerry_military_service_controversy

Corsi has written about a variety of subjects, including Democratic politicians and conspiracy theories.[22] According to The Guardian, Corsi — who is Catholic — has been accused by the American press "of being anti-Islamic, anti-Catholic, anti-Semitic and homophobic, and of exploiting racial prejudices in an attempt to 'scare white America'."[23] In 2004, Corsi wrote a critical biography of then Democratic Presidential candidate John Kerry called Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry. In 2005 he published Atomic Iran: How the Terrorist Regime Bought the Bomb and American Politicians, which claimed Democratic politicians are corrupted by Iranian money and are helping the Ulemas, who seek nuclear weapons, in Tehran.[24] That same year he co-authored Black Gold Stranglehold: The Myth of Scarcity and the Politics of Oil (2005) with Craig R. Smith.

 

[9thIDdoc]

actually... you are calling all these decorated combat veterans liars?

Why not? You don't seem to have a problem calling a host of combat vets liars for telling the truth about Kerry.

 

[9thIDdoc]

Two of a kind.

 

[whitehall]

We expect Navy officers to behave in an honorable way and Kerry was in a position where he could recommend himself for a medal and reasonably be assured that his recommendation would be acknowledged. It doesn't take an expert in Military affairs to determine that at least one and most likely two of Kerry's self recommended Hearts were not authorized. Kerry put himself in for the award when he threw a grenade into a cache of rice and was stung in the ass by a fragment of rice or the grenade. Self inflicted wounds are not authorized. Another Heart was self recommended for a "wound" that didn't even require a band aid when a mine went off in the river and Kerry was stung in the finger. His self recommended Silver Star is an embarrassment.

 

[Sallow]

Politically, I can't stand John Kerry; just another democrat Obama worshiping limousine liberal.

But to attack his vietnam war record is beyond despicable.

Especially when it comes from fellow VNV vets.

Kerry was part of the brown-water navy and in command of a Swift boat.

Swift boats were in constant action and engaged in many fire fights; mainly from ambushes.

And the casualty rate for crew members was extremely high.

Hate him for his politics.......that's fine.

But he is a decorated war hero who should be thanked for his servive to our nation.

It's not about what he did during his service, Sunni, it's about what the POS did after his service.

He should have married Jane Fonda.....they could have spawned Bradley Manning.

What did he do after his service?

 

[Sallow]

We expect Navy officers to behave in an honorable way and Kerry was in a position where he could recommend himself for a medal and reasonably be assured that his recommendation would be acknowledged. It doesn't take an expert in Military affairs to determine that at least one and most likely two of Kerry's self recommended Hearts were not authorized. Kerry put himself in for the award when he threw a grenade into a cache of rice and was stung in the ass by a fragment of rice or the grenade. Self inflicted wounds are not authorized. Another Heart was self recommended for a "wound" that didn't even require a band aid when a mine went off in the river and Kerry was stung in the finger. His self recommended Silver Star is an embarrassment.

Bullshit.

Kerry still carries shrapnel in his body from the war.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

John Kerry is a highly decorated combat veteran who after arriving stateside, publicly fought against an unjust war because he had lost numerous friends and brothers in arms, as well as a few childhood friends, to the insanity of a war prolonged by Henry Kissinger and Richard Nixon...two dicks


that took courage and balls....more than most service veterans here exhibit

 

[Sallow]

Two of a kind.

Yeah...

What he lie about?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

John Kerry is a highly decorated combat veteran who after arriving stateside, publicly fought against an unjust war because he had lost numerous friends and brothers in arms, as well as a few childhood friends, to the insanity of a war prolonged by Henry Kissinger and Richard Nixon...two dicks


that took courage and balls....more than most service veterans here exhibit

reality bites.......................

 

[Wicked Jester]

Politically, I can't stand John Kerry; just another democrat Obama worshiping limousine liberal.

But to attack his vietnam war record is beyond despicable.

Especially when it comes from fellow VNV vets.

Kerry was part of the brown-water navy and in command of a Swift boat.

Swift boats were in constant action and engaged in many fire fights; mainly from ambushes.

And the casualty rate for crew members was extremely high.

Hate him for his politics.......that's fine.

But he is a decorated war hero who should be thanked for his servive to our nation.

It's not about what he did during his service, Sunni, it's about what the POS did after his service.

He should have married Jane Fonda.....they could have spawned Bradley Manning.

What did he do after his service?

Aided and abetted the enemy, thereby costing American lives.

If one wants to protest, fine, it's one of the freedoms that makes this country great.....But when one throws his fellow soldiers under the bus, thereby providing the enemy with more motivation to kill, then one becomes a traitorous fuckin' scumbag, Period.

That fuckhead knew what he was doing, and damn sure knew his words would cost the lives of those he served with.

And there isn't one damn thing you libs can cackle on about that is going to change it.

 

[9thIDdoc]

John Kerry is a highly decorated combat veteran who after arriving stateside, publicly fought against an unjust war because he had lost numerous friends and brothers in arms, as well as a few childhood friends, to the insanity of a war prolonged by Henry Kissinger and Richard Nixon...two dicks


that took courage and balls....more than most service veterans here exhibit

There was nothing "unjust" about our participation in the Vietnam war.
Kerry never had many friends or comrades in arms and those he lost were probably as a result of his contemptable behavior.
The average Brownie Scout troop has more balls than kerry could even dream of.

 

[DougReese]

We expect Navy officers to behave in an honorable way and Kerry was in a position where he could recommend himself for a medal and reasonably be assured that his recommendation would be acknowledged. It doesn't take an expert in Military affairs to determine that at least one and most likely two of Kerry's self recommended Hearts were not authorized. Kerry put himself in for the award when he threw a grenade into a cache of rice and was stung in the ass by a fragment of rice or the grenade. Self inflicted wounds are not authorized. Another Heart was self recommended for a "wound" that didn't even require a band aid when a mine went off in the river and Kerry was stung in the finger. His self recommended Silver Star is an embarrassment.

You don't have the facts straight.

Self-inflicted wounds can, depending on the circumstances, qualify for a PH. Bob Dole's 1st PH is a perfect example of this.

The two things you mention regarding Kerry's PH (the rice and mine) were actually on the same day, and resulted in one PH. There is no evidence whatsoever that Kerry "self recommended" himself for that award. Furthermore, I don't think you can do that.

It is a fact that Kerry did not recommend himself for the Silver Star. His commander did that. No one involved has ever said Kerry recommended himself for that award. No one.

Doug Reese

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

John Kerry is a highly decorated combat veteran who after arriving stateside, publicly fought against an unjust war because he had lost numerous friends and brothers in arms, as well as a few childhood friends, to the insanity of a war prolonged by Henry Kissinger and Richard Nixon...two dicks


that took courage and balls....more than most service veterans here exhibit

There was nothing "unjust" about our participation in the Vietnam war.
Kerry never had many friends or comrades in arms and those he lost were probably as a result of his contemptable behavior.
The average Brownie Scout troop has more balls than kerry could even dream of.

tell me you don't have military disability = scam

 

[9thIDdoc]

W

John Kerry is a highly decorated combat veteran who after arriving stateside, publicly fought against an unjust war because he had lost numerous friends and brothers in arms, as well as a few childhood friends, to the insanity of a war prolonged by Henry Kissinger and Richard Nixon...two dicks


that took courage and balls....more than most service veterans here exhibit

There was nothing "unjust" about our participation in the Vietnam war.
Kerry never had many friends or comrades in arms and those he lost were probably as a result of his contemptable behavior.
The average Brownie Scout troop has more balls than kerry could even dream of.

tell me you don't have military disability = scam

Why would it matter? And how would you know I wasn't imitating your hero kerry by lying through my teeth?