Joe Wilson's outburst DESERVES CREDIT for exposing sec. 1702 of HR3200!

[rdean]

Does the bill even matter? Anyone, citizen or non-citizen can go to an emergency room.

Unless Republicans are saying that if a parent brings in a sick child, the child will just have to die. Republicans have no problem with that? Could they say that to a parent? Seems like they could.

SO if anyone can just go to an ER, then there's no need for this moronic legislation -- in any of its possible forms.

If Senor and Senora Illegal bring their little moppet illegally over our border and the child gets sick here, yes, the child can be brought to the hospital's ER and get treatment. If nobody pays, or if the hospital gets flooded with such matters on a daily basis the hospital may end up being unable to survive as an ongoing business entity. So, for that pipe-dream to "work," somebody is gonna HAVE to be made to pay.

Who?

Well, in all probability, it's gonna be the taxpayers.

1. Hospital goes out of business.
2. Hospital gets too flooded with patients to provide much of any service to any one particular patient due to massive patient volume.
3. Taxpayers assume an ever increasing tax burden to cover folks who shouldn't even be here in the first place.

Which of those options is it you think society ought to embrace?

When in anger, fear or doubt, run in circles, scream and shout.

It's already in the bill, "No money for illegal aliens". Besides, illegal aliens tend to avoid going to the doctor unless the illness or injury is life threatening.

The highest paid CEO gets 38 million a year and 120 million over 5 years in bonuses. That's over 300 million dollars. More than a quarter of a billion dollars. How many insurance policies does it take to pay 300 million?

Is that what Republicans are defending? Ha ha ha ha ho ho ho ha ha.

 

[Liability]

Does the bill even matter? Anyone, citizen or non-citizen can go to an emergency room.

Unless Republicans are saying that if a parent brings in a sick child, the child will just have to die. Republicans have no problem with that? Could they say that to a parent? Seems like they could.

SO if anyone can just go to an ER, then there's no need for this moronic legislation -- in any of its possible forms.

If Senor and Senora Illegal bring their little moppet illegally over our border and the child gets sick here, yes, the child can be brought to the hospital's ER and get treatment. If nobody pays, or if the hospital gets flooded with such matters on a daily basis the hospital may end up being unable to survive as an ongoing business entity. So, for that pipe-dream to "work," somebody is gonna HAVE to be made to pay.

Who?

Well, in all probability, it's gonna be the taxpayers.

1. Hospital goes out of business.
2. Hospital gets too flooded with patients to provide much of any service to any one particular patient due to massive patient volume.
3. Taxpayers assume an ever increasing tax burden to cover folks who shouldn't even be here in the first place.

Which of those options is it you think society ought to embrace?

When in anger, fear or doubt, run in circles, scream and shout.

It's already in the bill, "No money for illegal aliens". Besides, illegal aliens tend to avoid going to the doctor unless the illness or injury is life threatening.

* * * *

WHERE, exactly, is it "in the bill?" Link it.

WHEN, exactly, did this provision get put into "the" bill? Show us.

From what "source" do you get the jive that "illegals" supposedly "tend to" avoid hospitals except when the illness or injury is "life threatening?" Link us up with that source.

 

[rdean]

SO if anyone can just go to an ER, then there's no need for this moronic legislation -- in any of its possible forms.

If Senor and Senora Illegal bring their little moppet illegally over our border and the child gets sick here, yes, the child can be brought to the hospital's ER and get treatment. If nobody pays, or if the hospital gets flooded with such matters on a daily basis the hospital may end up being unable to survive as an ongoing business entity. So, for that pipe-dream to "work," somebody is gonna HAVE to be made to pay.

Who?

Well, in all probability, it's gonna be the taxpayers.

1. Hospital goes out of business.
2. Hospital gets too flooded with patients to provide much of any service to any one particular patient due to massive patient volume.
3. Taxpayers assume an ever increasing tax burden to cover folks who shouldn't even be here in the first place.

Which of those options is it you think society ought to embrace?

When in anger, fear or doubt, run in circles, scream and shout.

It's already in the bill, "No money for illegal aliens". Besides, illegal aliens tend to avoid going to the doctor unless the illness or injury is life threatening.

* * * *

WHERE, exactly, is it "in the bill?" Link it.

WHEN, exactly, did this provision get put into "the" bill? Show us.

From what "source" do you get the jive that "illegals" supposedly "tend to" avoid hospitals except when the illness or injury is "life threatening?" Link us up with that source.

Seven Falsehoods About Health Care | FactCheck.org

 

[Liability]

When in anger, fear or doubt, run in circles, scream and shout.

It's already in the bill, "No money for illegal aliens". Besides, illegal aliens tend to avoid going to the doctor unless the illness or injury is life threatening.

* * * *

WHERE, exactly, is it "in the bill?" Link it.

WHEN, exactly, did this provision get put into "the" bill? Show us.

From what "source" do you get the jive that "illegals" supposedly "tend to" avoid hospitals except when the illness or injury is "life threatening?" Link us up with that source.

Seven Falsehoods About Health Care | FactCheck.org

LOL

FIRST of all, your "answers" are non-responsive.

SECONDLY, "fauxcheck" = annenberg public policy center = Soros.

Try again.

 

[SW2SILVER]

Does the bill matter? Hmm. Does immigrating legaly matter? Does honesty and integrity matter? No, if illegals can sneak in and become (Poof) "IMMIGRANTS", then why the hell bother with piddly things like truth anymore? I'm being sarcastic, yet again. Please, tell me, why can't these assholes JUST immigrate legally? Please don't say they cant wait, either. WHAT, they turn into a pumpkin at midnight? Come on, they can wait like EVERY other legit "immigrant". No, just because they live next door and will piss their wetback Mexican pants? What? They have sooo many excuses, it gets old. They are assholes, what other reason is there? They are better than ALL the other immigrants that are fleeing oppression and death squads and all that junk, because they can just sneak in? I guess so, they are doing it and nobody cares. Except, me, that is.

 

[Intense]

Does the bill matter? Hmm. Does immigrating legaly matter? Does honesty and integrity matter? No, if illegals can sneak in and become (Poof) "IMMIGRANTS", then why the hell bother with piddly things like truth anymore? I'm being sarcastic, yet again. Please, tell me, why can't these assholes JUST immigrate legally? Please don't say they cant wait, either. WHAT, they turn into a pumpkin at midnight? Come on, they can wait like EVERY other legit "immigrant". No, just because they live next door and will piss their wetback Mexican pants? What? They have sooo many excuses, it gets old. They are assholes, what other reason is there? They are better than ALL the other immigrants that are fleeing oppression and death squads and all that junk, because they can just sneak in? I guess so, they are doing it and nobody cares. Except, me, that is.

There is a concerted effort by Mexico to reclaim territory. Mexico no longer recognizes the Northern Border, as a boundary, unless it suits their purpose. They refuse to accept Our Sovereignty. Their Citizens will retain National Identity, Mexican Citizenship, through Generations, even those born here, Dual Citizenship.

NAFTA, One World Government, North American Free Trade Zone, including Canada, Crap. Clinton and Bush stood by on this too, and did nothing. By doing Nothing they sanctioned it. Barry is the same, Whom ever is holding the other end of the Puppet Strings, is the culprit.

That shit head Spokes Person from Mexico, under Bush, is now part of the Barry O Administration, A Federal Government Employee.

The Statists are One World Government advocates. One of the few remaining obstacles is the Constitution.

 

[edthecynic]

SO if anyone can just go to an ER, then there's no need for this moronic legislation -- in any of its possible forms.

If Senor and Senora Illegal bring their little moppet illegally over our border and the child gets sick here, yes, the child can be brought to the hospital's ER and get treatment. If nobody pays, or if the hospital gets flooded with such matters on a daily basis the hospital may end up being unable to survive as an ongoing business entity. So, for that pipe-dream to "work," somebody is gonna HAVE to be made to pay.

Who?

Well, in all probability, it's gonna be the taxpayers.

1. Hospital goes out of business.
2. Hospital gets too flooded with patients to provide much of any service to any one particular patient due to massive patient volume.
3. Taxpayers assume an ever increasing tax burden to cover folks who shouldn't even be here in the first place.

Which of those options is it you think society ought to embrace?

When in anger, fear or doubt, run in circles, scream and shout.

It's already in the bill, "No money for illegal aliens". Besides, illegal aliens tend to avoid going to the doctor unless the illness or injury is life threatening.

* * * *

WHERE, exactly, is it "in the bill?" Link it.

WHEN, exactly, did this provision get put into "the" bill? Show us.

From what "source" do you get the jive that "illegals" supposedly "tend to" avoid hospitals except when the illness or injury is "life threatening?" Link us up with that source.

Obviously, like typical CON$, you NEVER read the bill!!!
Here's the link to a keyword searchible pdf of the bill:

PDF of HR 3200 - US Government Printing Office Home Page

From page 143:

SEC. 246. NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS.
Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments
for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are
not lawfully present in the United States.

 

[edthecynic]

WHERE, exactly, is it "in the bill?" Link it.

WHEN, exactly, did this provision get put into "the" bill? Show us.

From what "source" do you get the jive that "illegals" supposedly "tend to" avoid hospitals except when the illness or injury is "life threatening?" Link us up with that source.

Seven Falsehoods About Health Care | FactCheck.org

LOL

FIRST of all, your "answers" are non-responsive.

SECONDLY, "fauxcheck" = annenberg public policy center = Soros.

Try again.

Soros Derangement Syndrome

 

[PI2]

My question is what are the righties going to do once the legitimate concerns about the bill are addressed.
Vote against it anyway?
But of course there won't be any forms to fill out to qualify for the money. The Government is just going to sprinkle it across the countryside from Black Helicopters.

 

[Liability]

My question is what are the righties going to do once the legitimate concerns about the bill are addressed.
Vote against it anyway?
But of course there won't be any forms to fill out to qualify for the money. The Government is just going to sprinkle it across the countryside from Black Helicopters.

Your question is stupid.

The legitimate concerns about the bill are not going to go away.

For example, the stupid shit has to get "paid" for and that is a major stumbling block the liberal Democratics like to dodge and avoid.

The cost is so massive on top of all the other amazingly reckless deficit spending perpetrated by President Obama and the liberal Democratics in Congress, that the legitimate concern about the proposed "plan" simply cannot go away.

The "public" option is also going to be ruinous. It is GOVERNMENT "competition" to PRIVATE industry. Once we start down that improper slippery slope, there will no longer be an "option," we will end up with a failed health-care "system" ala the mess they have in Canada. Private insurance companies will eventually be choked out because that's what weeds (government run alternative insurance) do to legititmate grass and flowers (competative private insurance companies).

The trouble is -- and the lefties will always deny it because in matters like this, lefties habitiually and deliberately and massively lie -- the liberal Democratics will not pass the bill without either a faux "public option" or a so-called "trigger" which will amount to the same thing. And if President Obama cannnot unite his own Democrat Parody, the bill will die. So, to get this monstrosity passed, you WILL end up with a public option or the bullshit "trigger". Either way, the LEGITIMATE opposition of the Republicans and conseratives will not get put to rest.

The bill got bally-hoo'd as an urgent necessity that we needed NOW. Right stinkin' NOW! Yet, we didn't get it RIGHT stinkin' now. And we don't "need" it tomorrow or next year, either.

The true problems we have with health care delivery may not go away just because THIS proposed legislation is too flawed and shouldn't get passed. But the proper way to address the problems CAN wait a bit longer if that means we can dodge making THIS mistake.

 

[Angelhair]

Let's face it. The United States of America is doomed! If any of you out there are believers, now is the time to get down on your knees and pray, pray, pray!