So Joe the Plumber is on Hannity and Colmes tonight and he's talking about how Obama's plan is socialism. Then Alan Colmes plays a tape of Sarah Palin talking about how Obama's tax credits to those who don't pay any taxes is socialism. So then they play a tape of McCain saying that he wants to give every working family a refundable $5000 tax credit. Alan Colmes then asks "Joe the Plumber" if McCain's policies of buying up $300 billion of bad mortgages and giving refundable tax credits to those didn't pay any taxes were socialist. Joe responded "I don't really know all that much about socialism to be honest." So this idiot who's talking about how Obama's plan is socialist, really has no idea of what socialism is. Sarge? Are you really Joe the Plumber? Is that you del? Why do people use the "S" word and not even know what socialism is?? Re-distribution of wealth under socialism is the government setting a salary cap on someone and giving everyone ownership of the company, thus collective ownership. Everyone makes the same salary. Now forgive me for my ignorance, but when has Obama ever said that he's going to stop individuals from owning coroporations and setup collective ownership for them and give everyone, no matter what their responsibilities are, equal pay? Not equal pay as in, different genders make the same money, equal pay as in EVERYONE in the government owned corporation makes the same salary and pays the same taxes, no matter what your education level, no matter what your experience level, no matter your age. Someone please show me when Obama has suppoted this?