Joe Biden's speech as John McCain's funeral

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Joe Biden's Eulogy at John McCain's Memorial - Full Transcript of Joe Biden's Speech at McCain's Funeral

Joe Biden was asked to give a speech at the funeral at John McCain's funeral. Here is a taste.

With John, it was a value set that was neither selfish nor self-serving. John understood that America was first and foremost, an idea. Audacious and risky, organized around not tribe but ideals. Think of how he approached every issue. The ideals that Americans rallied around for 200 years, the ideals of the world has prepared you. Sounds corny. We hold these truths self-evident, that all men are created equal, endowed by their creator with certain rights. To John, those words had meaning, as they have for every great patriot who's ever served this country. We both loved the Senate. The proudest years of my life were being a United States Senator. I was honored to be Vice President, but a United States Senator. We both lamented, watching it change. During the long debates in the '80s and '90s, I would go sit next to John, next to his seat or he would come on the Democratic side and sit next to me. I'm not joking. We'd sit there and talk to each other. I came out to see John, we were reminiscing around it. It was '96, about to go to the caucus. We both went into our caucus and coincidentally, we were approached by our caucus leaders with the same thing. Foe, it doesn't look good, you sitting next to John all the time. I swear to God. same thing was said to John in your caucus.

That's when things began to change for the worse in America in the Senate. That's when it changed. What happened was, at those times, it was always appropriate to challenge another Senator's judgment, but never appropriate to challenge their motive. When you challenge their motive, it's impossible to get to go. If I say you are going this because you are being paid off or you are doing it because you are not a good Christian or this, that, or the other thing, it's impossible to reach consensus. Think about in your personal lives. All we do today is attack the oppositions of both parties, their motives, not the substance of their argument. This is the mid-'90s. it began to go downhill from there. The last day John was on the Senate floor, what was he fighting to do? He was fighting to restore what you call regular order, just start to treat one another again, like we used to.


So Joe says that we must engage in debate instead of character assassination and tribalism. Interesting, especially in light of speeches like this.



How is it that Biden called Mitt Romney a racist who was going to throw the black audience "back into chains"? How is any dialogue even useful to such a person? Is this not tribalism that politicians like Joe Biden is railing against in this hypocritical speech?

And what of McCain himself? Was it not John McCain that called of all Trump's supporters "crazies"?

McCain Calls Some Arizonans ‘Crazies’ ‘Fired Up’ by Trump | Breitbart

McCain was referring to the element within the GOP that wanted things like a border wall and repeal Obamacare, a wall he promised his supporters to build in 2010 but lied and a healthcare policy he swore to repeal but lied. In fact, McCain did everything he could to purge conservatives within the GOP, so isn't this the sort of tribalism that Joe Biden was speaking of? Of course it is.

Then, to add insult to injury, McCain's dying wish was to disallow Trump from attending his funeral along with Sarah Palin. More tribalism you say? Indeed it is.

I'll give McCain's supporters a clue, if you think that those in your party are "crazy" for wanting to build a border wall or repeal Obamacare, then say so instead of lying about it, all in an order to subvert the democratic process.

In fact, ever since Trump became President the DNC and the media, (referring to them as separate is redundant I know), have been trying to convince us that the entire GOP are a bunch of racist neo-Nazis, so why on earth would you want to have dialogue or debate with any of them?

Of course, this racist tribalism BS was laid down long before Trump, wasn't it? And it really matters precious little as to who runs against the leader of the DNC, they will be treated the same.
 
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Votto, you have an unhealthy obsession with McCains death dude. This is like your 15th thread, from all differing angles. If you need attention THAT bad, try a less tacky approach for shits sakes. You are ALL OVER this dude's death.
 
Quick question. With all this over coverage of Mccain like he was our former president or something. Will Bob Dole get this same treatment when he passes away? He too is a veteran hero and former senator who ran for president.
 
Votto, you have an unhealthy obsession with McCains death dude. This is like your 15th thread, from all differing angles. If you need attention THAT bad, try a less tacky approach for shits sakes. You are ALL OVER this dude's death.

McCain is symbolic of the Swamp. It strips voters of representation and builds a Progressive utopia on lies.

McCain was just a cog in the machine, nothing special really

In fact, I'm sure other Republicans would step up to vote against such things as repealing Obamacare or building a border wall if needed.

Hopefully for them, however, the DNC will just take power and not force them to expose themselves.

Think of it, the GOP has retained power of all 3 branches and has accomplished nothing other than tax cuts and improving the economy, an economy that the DNC will soon ruin in not time once put back in power.
 
I started watching Biden but the asshole got to be too sickening.

He was a shitty senator, terrible VP and an embarrassment to this country. A real joke.

By the way, how many funerals is McCain going to have? One yesterday, one today, one tomorrow, one on Saturday and another one on Sunday. Damn!
 
Votto, you have an unhealthy obsession with McCains death dude. This is like your 15th thread, from all differing angles. If you need attention THAT bad, try a less tacky approach for shits sakes. You are ALL OVER this dude's death.

McCain is symbolic of the Swamp. It strips voters of representation and builds a Progressive utopia on lies.

McCain was just a cog in the machine, nothing special really

In fact, I'm sure other Republicans would step up to vote against such things as repealing Obamacare or building a border wall if needed.

Hopefully for them, however, the DNC will just take power and not force them to expose themselves.

Think of it, the GOP has retained power of all 3 branches and has accomplished nothing other than tax cuts and improving the economy, an economy that the DNC will soon ruin in not time once put back in power.
Anyone can understand this without becoming grossly obsessive about it.
 
Votto, you have an unhealthy obsession with McCains death dude. This is like your 15th thread, from all differing angles. If you need attention THAT bad, try a less tacky approach for shits sakes. You are ALL OVER this dude's death.

McCain is symbolic of the Swamp. It strips voters of representation and builds a Progressive utopia on lies.

McCain was just a cog in the machine, nothing special really

In fact, I'm sure other Republicans would step up to vote against such things as repealing Obamacare or building a border wall if needed.

Hopefully for them, however, the DNC will just take power and not force them to expose themselves.

Think of it, the GOP has retained power of all 3 branches and has accomplished nothing other than tax cuts and improving the economy, an economy that the DNC will soon ruin in not time once put back in power.

Just remember; almost all of the people Trashing Senator McCain voted for him for President inside of 10 years ago. Its both disgusting and sad at the same time that this is done under the guise of serious political/current event commentary
 
I didn’t think I could be less impressed with McCain. Yet even in death he is making that possible. What a petty little bitch. Showing his ass to the world in death he never had the balls to do in life. What a pathetic petulant child.
 
I started watching Biden but the asshole got to be too sickening.

He was a shitty senator, terrible VP and an embarrassment to this country. A real joke.

By the way, how many funerals is McCain going to have? One yesterday, one today, one tomorrow, one on Saturday and another one on Sunday. Damn!
Well, if you are so stupid that you think Memorial Services are funerals, there will be a lot of them.
 
Votto, you have an unhealthy obsession with McCains death dude. This is like your 15th thread, from all differing angles. If you need attention THAT bad, try a less tacky approach for shits sakes. You are ALL OVER this dude's death.

McCain is symbolic of the Swamp. It strips voters of representation and builds a Progressive utopia on lies.

McCain was just a cog in the machine, nothing special really

In fact, I'm sure other Republicans would step up to vote against such things as repealing Obamacare or building a border wall if needed.

Hopefully for them, however, the DNC will just take power and not force them to expose themselves.

Think of it, the GOP has retained power of all 3 branches and has accomplished nothing other than tax cuts and improving the economy, an economy that the DNC will soon ruin in not time once put back in power.

Just remember; almost all of the people Trashing Senator McCain voted for him for President inside of 10 years ago. Its both disgusting and sad at the same time that this is done under the guise of serious political/current event commentary
That says more about obie the worthless. The fact you left wingers are jumping on the praise train is what’s pathetic. It’s pretty sad a guy you trashed is now your hero.
 
Votto, you have an unhealthy obsession with McCains death dude. This is like your 15th thread, from all differing angles. If you need attention THAT bad, try a less tacky approach for shits sakes. You are ALL OVER this dude's death.

McCain is symbolic of the Swamp. It strips voters of representation and builds a Progressive utopia on lies.

McCain was just a cog in the machine, nothing special really

In fact, I'm sure other Republicans would step up to vote against such things as repealing Obamacare or building a border wall if needed.

Hopefully for them, however, the DNC will just take power and not force them to expose themselves.

Think of it, the GOP has retained power of all 3 branches and has accomplished nothing other than tax cuts and improving the economy, an economy that the DNC will soon ruin in not time once put back in power.
Anyone can understand this without becoming grossly obsessive about it.

Well that is what happens when the media constantly talks about him as he has funeral after funeral telling us what a great man he was.
 
I started watching Biden but the asshole got to be too sickening.

He was a shitty senator, terrible VP and an embarrassment to this country. A real joke.

By the way, how many funerals is McCain going to have? One yesterday, one today, one tomorrow, one on Saturday and another one on Sunday. Damn!
Well, if you are so stupid that you think Memorial Services are funerals, there will be a lot of them.


McCain is the sonofabitch that keeps going on and on, isn't he? When are they going to bury the asshole? After 20 more funerals and 75 more memorials?

If he hadn't voted to keep that disastrous Obamacare the Moon Bats would hate him.

Piss on him. A weak minded RINO.
 
Joe Biden's Eulogy at John McCain's Memorial - Full Transcript of Joe Biden's Speech at McCain's Funeral

Joe Biden was asked to give a speech at the funeral at John McCain's funeral. Here is a taste.

With John, it was a value set that was neither selfish nor self-serving. John understood that America was first and foremost, an idea. Audacious and risky, organized around not tribe but ideals. Think of how he approached every issue. The ideals that Americans rallied around for 200 years, the ideals of the world has prepared you. Sounds corny. We hold these truths self-evident, that all men are created equal, endowed by their creator with certain rights. To John, those words had meaning, as they have for every great patriot who's ever served this country. We both loved the Senate. The proudest years of my life were being a United States Senator. I was honored to be Vice President, but a United States Senator. We both lamented, watching it change. During the long debates in the '80s and '90s, I would go sit next to John, next to his seat or he would come on the Democratic side and sit next to me. I'm not joking. We'd sit there and talk to each other. I came out to see John, we were reminiscing around it. It was '96, about to go to the caucus. We both went into our caucus and coincidentally, we were approached by our caucus leaders with the same thing. Foe, it doesn't look good, you sitting next to John all the time. I swear to God. same thing was said to John in your caucus.

That's when things began to change for the worse in America in the Senate. That's when it changed. What happened was, at those times, it was always appropriate to challenge another Senator's judgment, but never appropriate to challenge their motive. When you challenge their motive, it's impossible to get to go. If I say you are going this because you are being paid off or you are doing it because you are not a good Christian or this, that, or the other thing, it's impossible to reach consensus. Think about in your personal lives. All we do today is attack the oppositions of both parties, their motives, not the substance of their argument. This is the mid-'90s. it began to go downhill from there. The last day John was on the Senate floor, what was he fighting to do? He was fighting to restore what you call regular order, just start to treat one another again, like we used to.


So Joe says that we must engage in debate instead of character assassination and tribalism. Interesting, especially in light of speeches like this.



How is it that Biden called Mitt Romney a racist who was going to throw the black audience "back into chains"? How is any dialogue even useful to such a person? Is this not tribalism that politicians like Joe Biden is railing against in this hypocritical speech?

And what of McCain himself? Was it not John McCain that called of all Trump's supporters "crazies"?

McCain Calls Some Arizonans ‘Crazies’ ‘Fired Up’ by Trump | Breitbart

McCain was referring to the element within the GOP that wanted things like a border wall and repeal Obamacare, a wall he promised his supporters to build in 2010 but lied and a healthcare policy he swore to repeal but lied. In fact, McCain did everything he could to purge conservatives within the GOP, so isn't this the sort of tribalism that Joe Biden was speaking of? Of course it is.

Then, to add insult to injury, McCain's dying wish was to disallow Trump from attending his funeral along with Sarah Palin. More tribalism you say? Indeed it is.

I'll give McCain's supporters a clue, if you think that those in your party are "crazy" for wanting to build a border wall or repeal Obamacare, then say so instead of lying about it, all in an order to subvert the democratic process.

In fact, ever since Trump became President the DNC and the media, (referring to them as separate is redundant I know), have been trying to convince us that the entire GOP are a bunch of racist neo-Nazis, so why on earth would you want to have dialogue or debate with any of them?

Of course, this racist tribalism BS was laid down long before Trump, wasn't it? And it really matters precious little as to who runs against the leader of the DNC, they will be treated the same.

PPPOOOOOORR Joe. he cant help it. he was born with a silver foot in his mouth.
 

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