Joe B rates the Democratic Field

[JoeB131]

In Warren's case, you seem to be confirming that Trump's racist smear job is the kind of winning tactics in the 21st century. She may not have handled all that stuff artfully. All the while, she's the policy workshop in the field, and should be indispensable to the progressive crowd going forward.

Um, sorry, Warren's wounds over that were largely self-inflicted, especially when she took a genetic test that found she was 1/1024 Native American. Trump baited her and she went for it. She just looked silly doing it.

But not half as silly as when she said, "Hey, you know what Joe. I heard that you just spent the last five years working two and three jobs to pay down your debt caused by the last recession, but i think you should totally pay more in taxes to pay off the $1.5 trillion in student debt run up by idiots who got Degrees in Philosophy and can't get real jobs now to pay it off!"

 

[JoeB131]

Buttigieg (!) may well be the biggest political talent in the field. If you liked Bill's triangulation and Washington Consensus policies, Pete is your guy, neo-liberal to the core. Whether he can overcome the wild-eyed, utterly ludicrous fantasies about "buttplugs" remains to be seen.

When your name kind of sounds like "Buttplug", you kind of do that to yourself.

Honestly, the more I look at the Democratic field, the more I think that we might have to get used to another four years of Trump, or however long it takes for his arteries to clog.

 

[Olde Europe]

In Warren's case, you seem to be confirming that Trump's racist smear job is the kind of winning tactics in the 21st century. She may not have handled all that stuff artfully. All the while, she's the policy workshop in the field, and should be indispensable to the progressive crowd going forward.

Um, sorry, Warren's wounds over that were largely self-inflicted, especially when she took a genetic test that found she was 1/1024 Native American. Trump baited her and she went for it. She just looked silly doing it.

But not half as silly as when she said, "Hey, you know what Joe. I heard that you just spent the last five years working two and three jobs to pay down your debt caused by the last recession, but i think you should totally pay more in taxes to pay off the $1.5 trillion in student debt run up by idiots who got Degrees in Philosophy and can't get real jobs now to pay it off!"

That's patently hysterical. Warren took a test to establish some facts in all that nonsense. That's "silly". Really.

As to your self-centered nonsense about student debt, that does not even begin to warrant an answer. Tuition is one of the most formidable obstacles to upward mobility, and her ideas on the subject are guided by what should be indisputable issues of societal fairness. Sorry to hear you had some hard times, but that has nothing whatsoever to do with the matter at hand.

 

[Olde Europe]

When your name kind of sounds like "Buttplug", you kind of do that to yourself.

Infantile.

 

[Papageorgio]

By "fresh new thing" you mean like VP Gore, Senator Kerry and Hillary Clinton, and Dukakis. Really?

No, I said exactly what I meant. I'm sorry English Comprehension isn't your strong suit.

Yeah, I know it was a stupid comment.

 

[Pogo]

I don't have a political party so I have no "guys" to "run" anything --- none of us do --- but AGAIN whether they win or lose has ZERO to do with your false characterizations. Whether an entity wins or loses depends on how many votes they get, or how many runs or points they score. Not whether you get to mischaracterize them. This is not rocket surgery.

You run the Commie, you will lose. At worst, Trump gets a real majority and wins. At best, Howard Schultz suddenly looks a lot more appealing, but can't overcome the Electoral College, it gets thrown into Congress, and Trump STILL wins.

Once AGAIN ------ I don't "run" anybody. Political parties do that. And once again again, there is no "commie".

Perhaps your problem is simple illiteracy. Either that or you're too busy going while worshiping your own posts.

And AGAIN you're deliberately misstating "Democratic Socialism" as " Socialism" and then false-equating your own strawman to "Commie", which has no meaning. Apparently because you can't deal with the starting point, so you bury your head in the sand and pretend it's something else, and that's (AGAIN) -- dishonest. Your false associations don't magically come to life like Frankenstein just because you post it on a message board.

Democratic Socialism is an oxymoron. Bernie is kind of like the Socialists who ran the USSR, he has three mansions, but thinks that Joe needs to pay more taxes to subsidize the dumb-ass who put himself $60,000 in debt for a degree in Art History or some such shit. No thank you.

The scariest thing after how many on the right are willing to embrace fascism is how many on the left are willing to embrace communism. It's like not a one of you ever read a history book.

Actually the scariest thing is those disconnected from reality who think they can just write their own fiction and it congeals into real stuff, as you just did. Sanders does not have "three mansions" and the rest of your drivel is, as has been the case from the beginning, wishful thinking characterizations, apparently because you can't deal with the real world.

Bernie was my congressman. I know him way better than you do but that's not saying much. As for Democratic Socialists, I believe I already schooled you on that ignorance, wasn't it this thread?

Post 54. Roll it.

Willy Brandt, Nelson Mandela, Jawaharlal Nehru, Jeremy Corbyn, David Ben-Gurion, François Mitterand, Bertrand Russell, Helen Keller, Roger Waters, MLK, George Orwell, Mahatma Ghandi, Albert Einstein, Christopher Hitchens, and the current PM of New Zealand in the news recently, Jacinda Ardern. Also notably Tommy Douglas, who got Canadian universal health care started.

Those look like "Stalinists" to you?

Here's a whole page on the "oxymoron" you insist on whining and stomping your feet about. Imagine that --- a whole page to not-read, ignore and go on with your imaginarium hissyfits as if it never happened. O lucky day.

Again ----- what does?
< 35 years old: Check. Natural born citizen: Check.
End of list.

There's another list?

Not taking it up the ass from another man... No Check.

Sorry, we aren't ready for a gay president. Especially one whose name sound like "Butt-plug".

You didn't even touch the question. Actually you cut the question out so that (again) you wouldn't have to face it. Which is at this point a definite pattern.

The question was ---- AGAIN ---- what makes him "unqualified"?

You do understand what the word "qualified" means? Or am I assuming too much?

What makes (any candidate) "qualified" beyond being <35 years old and a nat-born citizen? Your own emotional imaginarium detritus about what puns you can make with their name or what fantasies you have about their sex lives are entirely irrelevant here. That is in fact unqualified to be an argument.

"Experience" at what?

Again, if this is supposed to be a wish-list of probabilities instead of the objective analysis it's disguised as, what "qualifications" did Big Orange ever have? The man has literally never held a job in his life.

Thing is, Trump spent 40 years self promoting... The image he had of this great businesman might not be accurate, but that's what existed in most people's minds.

Personally, I like Beto more than most of the clown car. But if you think that people will look at his thin resume and say, "Yup, that guys qualifies", it's a bit much.

Once AGAIN you can't touch the question. Why do you keep running away from it? Skeered?

"Unqualified" is YOUR term. Defend it for once.

 

[Pogo]

When your name kind of sounds like "Buttplug", you kind of do that to yourself.

Infantile.

It speaks volumes about the OP's values. You have to wonder why he started this thread at all. He's embarrassing hisself.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Beto O'Rourke- I kind of like this guy. He's young, he's dynamic. He fought Ted Cruz to a draw in Texas with the GOP throwing everything they had at him. A pity he doesn't have more experience.

You have that completely backwards.

It was non-Texan Dems throwing everything at Cruz.

 

[Indeependent]

Beto O'Rourke- I kind of like this guy. He's young, he's dynamic. He fought Ted Cruz to a draw in Texas with the GOP throwing everything they had at him. A pity he doesn't have more experience.

You have that completely backwards.

It was non-Texan Dems throwing everything at Cruz.

JoeB got something wrong!

 

[Pogo]

Beto O'Rourke- I kind of like this guy. He's young, he's dynamic. He fought Ted Cruz to a draw in Texas with the GOP throwing everything they had at him. A pity he doesn't have more experience.

You have that completely backwards.

It was non-Texan Dems throwing everything at Cruz.

JoeB got something wrong!

Joeby got a LOT wrong. He still hasn't divulged exactly what it is that it's a pity O'Rourke doesn't have more experience AT.

That question seems to terrify him.

 

[jillian]

Losers all.

Says a trumpkin who voted for the most Incompetent, corrupt loon in history.

 

[Olde Europe]

When your name kind of sounds like "Buttplug", you kind of do that to yourself.

Infantile.

It speaks volumes about the OP's values. You have to wonder why he started this thread at all. He's embarrassing hisself.

I kinda like Joe. He's the sort of grumpy warrior who thinks on his own feet, and that incurs him the peril of occasionally landing in the woods. I have a soft spot for that. Moreover, he's mostly fighting the right fight, as far as I have seen. That's why I see the above of him as a lapse born of anger, not something that gives you a lot of insight.

 

[Olde Europe]

Losers all.

Says a trumpkin who voted for the most Incompetent, corrupt loon in history.

If winning is all that counts, it doesn't count whose side you're on, except HE wins. Everyone else losing - doesn't matter.

 

[g5000]

Pete Buttigeig - Sorry, being mayor of the fourth biggest city in Indiana just doesn't qualify you.

But being a huckster game show host does...

 

[Flash]

Pete Buttigeig - Sorry, being mayor of the fourth biggest city in Indiana just doesn't qualify you.

He has 100 times more experience than that stupid worthless affirmative action Negro you voted for in 2008 and 2012.

Of course 100 times zero is still pretty much zero, isn't it?

 

[miketx]

Pete Buttigeig - Sorry, being mayor of the fourth biggest city in Indiana just doesn't qualify you.

But being a huckster game show host does...

Sure does, best prez evah!

 

[JoeB131]

That's patently hysterical. Warren took a test to establish some facts in all that nonsense. That's "silly". Really.

Yeah, it was when the test came back to where she had so little Native American DNA that it barely registered. Those DNA tests are largely a scam to start with, and she just made herself look sillier taking one.

As to your self-centered nonsense about student debt, that does not even begin to warrant an answer. Tuition is one of the most formidable obstacles to upward mobility, and her ideas on the subject are guided by what should be indisputable issues of societal fairness. Sorry to hear you had some hard times, but that has nothing whatsoever to do with the matter at hand.

Um, no, actually, what I expect is a return on investment. You see, I'm all for single payer health care because it would be more economical than what we are doing now, where we spend more than any other nation on earth.

Pocahontas' idea is to say to all these irresponsible kids who took out tens of thousands in debt with no plan to pay it back, "No problem, we'll just go to Joe for the money, he'll be happy to pay it."

Um. No. I won't.

Now, I have no problem with imposing fiscal discipline on universities and expanding scholarships and public funding for them. But this idea that we should go out and make someone else pay for their irresponsibility? No thank you.

 

[JoeB131]

He has 100 times more experience than that stupid worthless affirmative action Negro you voted for in 2008 and 2012.

Of course 100 times zero is still pretty much zero, isn't it?

Didn't vote for Obama in 2008.

When I voted for him in 2012 (Because you guys turned the GOP over to the Mormon Cult), he had 4 years as a President, four years as a Senator and 12 years as a State legislator.

Buttplug has 8 years as a mayor of a hick town.

 

[JoeB131]

Once AGAIN ------ I don't "run" anybody. Political parties do that. And once again again, there is no "commie".

Perhaps your problem is simple illiteracy. Either that or you're too busy going while worshiping your own posts.

Bernie is a commie.

Actually the scariest thing is those disconnected from reality who think they can just write their own fiction and it congeals into real stuff, as you just did. Sanders does not have "three mansions" and the rest of your drivel is, as has been the case from the beginning, wishful thinking characterizations, apparently because you can't deal with the real world.

Uh, no, actually, it's spot on

Bernie Sanders has made more than $1.75 million from book royalties since 2016 — here's what we know about his wealth and assets

Sanders reportedly owns three homes, including a four-bedroom house in Chittenden County, Vermont, that he bought with his wife, Jane, for $405,000 in 2009.

The senator also owns a one-bedroom townhouse in Washington, DC, that he bought in 2007 for $488,999.

In 2016, Sanders bought a 1,800-square-foot house on the shore of Lake Champlain in Vermont for $575,000.

So the guy spends a Million and a half on homes... but he's going to tell the rest of us we are too greedy and need to share more.

^^^^^^This is why white people vote for Trump... this right here!

Willy Brandt, Nelson Mandela, Jawaharlal Nehru, Jeremy Corbyn, David Ben-Gurion, François Mitterand, Bertrand Russell, Helen Keller, Roger Waters, MLK, George Orwell, Mahatma Ghandi, Albert Einstein, Christopher Hitchens, and the current PM of New Zealand in the news recently, Jacinda Ardern. Also notably Tommy Douglas, who got Canadian universal health care started.

Roger Waters? I love the man's music, but he's worse than fucking Bernie... Someone else who lives in a fucking mansion telling me I'm not paying enough in taxes and not caring enough.

Democratic Socialism is an Oxymoron... period.

There's a reason why Fox news runs all AOC, all the time. Why do you think that is?

 

[22lcidw]

Losers all.

Says a trumpkin who voted for the most Incompetent, corrupt loon in history.

Remember...your Ramses...Trump is Moses!