Jobs: Myth Busters

[shintao]

How can you take the right serious when they continue fabricating numbers out of thin air, and sending out their lemmings to repeat their lies? This video is revealing, and blows many retard lies about big government.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP_UCpa1bpk&feature=related]‪Boehner Ok w/ Americans Losing Jobs‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]

 

[rightwinger]

Jobs?


Obama would get credit for jobs...ain't gunna happen

 

[Conservative]

How can you take the left serious when they continue fabricating numbers out of thin air, and sending out their lemmings to repeat their lies?

corrected, in reference to Democrats '3 million jobs saved or created' lie.

 

[Jarhead]

How can you take the right serious when they continue fabricating numbers out of thin air, and sending out their lemmings to repeat their lies? This video is revealing, and blows many retard lies about big government.

‪Boehner Ok w/ Americans Losing Jobs‬‏ - YouTube

Amazing how you can take the words of an obviously partisan commentator and post it as "factual".

First of all...Boehner, nor ANY GOP candidate ever said "our agenda is to create jobs". Instead, they made it quite clear to those that listened that their agenda was to do all they can to get government out of the way so the private secotr can create the jobs. Seems you werent paying attentiion during the campaign season

Secondly....he fooled you with his numbers by tossing in the words "per capita" when discussing the amount of government employees that exist today compared to other years. You need to listen more carefully.

Third....Boehner tossed out the number 200K...he did not EVER say it was an exact number...sort of like when someone says "millions of jobs lost" or "a few dozen people"...so only one who is partisan will actually spend more than 10 seconds addressing Boehners honesty in regard to that number.

Finally..many of those government jobs were created just for the sake of employing people...a noble reason....but we cant afford to be noble right now..which was the exact point Boehner was making.

Sort of like someone who makes annual donations to a worthy cause...but then loses his job. He is not saying "hell with the worthy cause"...he is saying "I just can afford it right now"

Why must you gleefully spin the truth to make a point? Are you that insecure with your position?

 

[uscitizen]

Amazing how you can take the words of an obviously partisan commentator and post it as "factual".


boner is a commentator?

Seems like he is leader of the house or somesuch.

 

[Jarhead]

Amazing how you can take the words of an obviously partisan commentator and post it as "factual".


boner is a commentator?

Seems like he is leader of the house or somesuch.

uh....referring to the commentator who notceably INTENTIONALLY spun what Boehner said and why he said it.....the guy in the clip

 

[CrusaderFrank]

"Well, I'm here to tell you, some time in the next couple of months, we're going to be creating between 250,000 jobs a month and 500,000 jobs a month." -- Joe "Little Boy Lost" Biden, April 2010

Read more: Biden Flashback: 'We're Going to Be Creating Between 250,000 and 500,000 jobs a Month!' - Joe Biden - Fox Nation

Has anyone seen Joe Biden lately?

 

[Conservative]

Amazing how you can take the words of an obviously partisan commentator and post it as "factual".


boner is a commentator?

Seems like he is leader of the house or somesuch.

pretty sure he was referring to this...

Cenk Uygur (MSNBC/The Young Turks host) breaks down outrageous comments about jobs from House Majority Leader John Boehner

on the linked YOUTUBE page.

 

[Conservative]

"Well, I'm here to tell you, some time in the next couple of months, we're going to be creating between 250,000 jobs a month and 500,000 jobs a month." -- Joe "Little Boy Lost" Biden, April 2010

Read more: Biden Flashback: 'We're Going to Be Creating Between 250,000 and 500,000 jobs a Month!' - Joe Biden - Fox Nation

Has anyone seen Joe Biden lately?

I believe he was checked into the hosptial to have his foot surgically removed from his mouth... or was it Obama's foot from his ass? It's so hard to tell sometimes.

 

[Jarhead]

"Well, I'm here to tell you, some time in the next couple of months, we're going to be creating between 250,000 jobs a month and 500,000 jobs a month." -- Joe "Little Boy Lost" Biden, April 2010

Read more: Biden Flashback: 'We're Going to Be Creating Between 250,000 and 500,000 jobs a Month!' - Joe Biden - Fox Nation

Has anyone seen Joe Biden lately?

I believe he was checked into the hosptial to have his foot surgically removed from his mouth... or was it Obama's foot from his ass? It's so hard to tell sometimes.

Actually, I believe it was Bidens nose removed from Obamas ass.

LMAO....flashback.....Biden said the Presidency is not a "learn on the job" position when referring to Obama...

Next thing we know, Biden has his nose so far up Obamas ass, he was able to smell MIchelles breath right before their first presidential kiss.

 

[uscitizen]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN-8lonrSJw]‪McCain: "I don't believe we're headed into a recession."‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]

 

[uscitizen]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKtGzfBdzqU]‪Recession: The Movie Staring John McCain and George W. Bush‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]

 

[uscitizen]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT29fq0slGc&feature=related]‪Wall Street Got Drunk‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]

 

[asaratis]

Like numbers aren't manipulated and made up by all sides? Bookkeeping methods vary with the bookkeeper! I am not excusing either side, but the commentator tried to make it sound as if only the conservatives make up numbers. That is bullshit.

Here are some real numbers and their recent changes, every one of which can be attributed to Obama. The base number is from January 2009 when Obama took control. The data is correct.

Obama has created 61,000 federal government jobs. (I do not know if that includes all the assistants assigned to Michelle, or to the un-elected Czars)




After two years of Obama, here's your change!


January 2009

TODAY

% chg

Source






Avg.. Retail price/gallon gas in U.S.

$1.83

$3.44

84%

1






Crude oil, European Brent (barrel)

$43..48

$99..02

127.7%

2






Crude oil, West TX Inter. (barrel)

$38..74

$91..38

135.9%

2






Gold: London (per troy oz.)

$853.25

$1,369.50

60.5%

2






Corn, No.2 yellow, Central IL

$3.56

$6.33

78.1%

2






Soybeans, No. 1 yellow, IL

$9.66

$13..75

42.3%

2






Sugar, cane, raw, world, lb. Fob

$13..37

$35..39

164.7%

2






Unemployment rate, non-farm, overall

7.6%

9.4%

23.7%

3






Unemployment rate, blacks

12.6%

15.8%

25.4%

3






Number of unemployed

11,616,000

14,485,000

24.7%

3






Number of fed. Employees

2,779,000

2,840,000

2.2%

3






Real median household income

$50,112

$49,777

-0.7%

4






Number of food stamp recipients

31,983,716

43,200,878

35.1%

5






Number of unemployment benefit recipients

7,526,598

9,193,838

22.2%

6






Number of long-term unemployed

2,600,000

6,400,000

146.2%

3






Poverty rate, individuals

13.2%

14.3%

8.3%

4






People in poverty in U.S.

39,800,000

43,600,000

9.5%

4






U.S.. Rank in Economic Freedom World Rankings

5

9

n/a

10






Present Situation Index

29.9

23.5

-21.4%

11






Failed banks

140

164

17.1%

12






U.S.. Dollar versus Japanese yen exchange rate

89.76

82.03

-8.6%

2






U.S.. Money supply, M1, in billions

1,575.1

1,865.7

18.4%

13






U.S.. Money supply, M2, in billions

8,310.9

8,852.3

6.5%

13






National debt, in trillions

$10..627

$14..052

32.2%

14






















Sources:
(1) U.S. Energy Information Administration;
(2) Wall Street Journal;
(3) Bureau of Labor Statistics;
(4) Census Bureau;
(5) USDA;
(6) U.S. Dept. Of Labor;
(7) FHFA;
(8) Standard & Poor's/Case-Shiller;
(9) RealtyTrac;
(10) Heritage Foundation and WSJ;
(11) The Conference Board;
(12) FDIC;
(13) Federal Reserve;
(14) U.S. Treasury

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Like numbers aren't manipulated and made up by all sides? Bookkeeping methods vary with the bookkeeper! I am not excusing either side, but the commentator tried to make it sound as if only the conservatives make up numbers. That is bullshit.

Here are some real numbers and their recent changes, every one of which can be attributed to Obama. The base number is from January 2009 when Obama took control. The data is correct.

Obama has created 61,000 federal government jobs. (I do not know if that includes all the assistants assigned to Michelle, or to the un-elected Czars)




After two years of Obama, here's your change!


January 2009

TODAY

% chg

Source






Avg.. Retail price/gallon gas in U.S.

$1.83

$3.44

84%

1






Crude oil, European Brent (barrel)

$43..48

$99..02

127.7%

2






Crude oil, West TX Inter. (barrel)

$38..74

$91..38

135.9%

2






Gold: London (per troy oz.)

$853.25

$1,369.50

60.5%

2






Corn, No.2 yellow, Central IL

$3.56

$6.33

78.1%

2






Soybeans, No. 1 yellow, IL

$9.66

$13..75

42.3%

2






Sugar, cane, raw, world, lb. Fob

$13..37

$35..39

164.7%

2






Unemployment rate, non-farm, overall

7.6%

9.4%

23.7%

3






Unemployment rate, blacks

12.6%

15.8%

25.4%

3






Number of unemployed

11,616,000

14,485,000

24.7%

3






Number of fed. Employees

2,779,000

2,840,000

2.2%

3






Real median household income

$50,112

$49,777

-0.7%

4






Number of food stamp recipients

31,983,716

43,200,878

35.1%

5






Number of unemployment benefit recipients

7,526,598

9,193,838

22.2%

6






Number of long-term unemployed

2,600,000

6,400,000

146.2%

3






Poverty rate, individuals

13.2%

14.3%

8.3%

4






People in poverty in U.S.

39,800,000

43,600,000

9.5%

4






U.S.. Rank in Economic Freedom World Rankings

5

9

n/a

10






Present Situation Index

29.9

23.5

-21.4%

11






Failed banks

140

164

17.1%

12






U.S.. Dollar versus Japanese yen exchange rate

89.76

82.03

-8.6%

2






U.S.. Money supply, M1, in billions

1,575.1

1,865.7

18.4%

13






U.S.. Money supply, M2, in billions

8,310.9

8,852.3

6.5%

13






National debt, in trillions

$10..627

$14..052

32.2%

14






















Sources:
(1) U.S. Energy Information Administration;
(2) Wall Street Journal;
(3) Bureau of Labor Statistics;
(4) Census Bureau;
(5) USDA;
(6) U.S. Dept. Of Labor;
(7) FHFA;
(8) Standard & Poor's/Case-Shiller;
(9) RealtyTrac;
(10) Heritage Foundation and WSJ;
(11) The Conference Board;
(12) FDIC;
(13) Federal Reserve;
(14) U.S. Treasury

That's the Obama record, let him run on his "Clearly Bush's fault" platform

 

[asaratis]

I wonder if the jobs created claim by the White House includes the thousands of census takers.

I wonder if the White House realizes that it is ONLY the private sector job creations that boost the revenue to the US treasury. (I know that government employees pay taxes...but their salaries come out of the overall tax revenues and their salaries far exceed what they pay in taxes.)

 

[hortysir]

Amazing how you can take the words of an obviously partisan commentator and post it as "factual".


boner is a commentator?

Seems like he is leader of the house or somesuch.

uh....referring to the commentator who notceably INTENTIONALLY spun what Boehner said and why he said it.....the guy in the clip

USC didn't watch it

 

[CrusaderFrank]

"Well, I'm here to tell you, some time in the next couple of months, we're going to be creating between 250,000 jobs a month and 500,000 jobs a month." -- Joe "Little Boy Lost" Biden, April 2010

Read more: Biden Flashback: 'We're Going to Be Creating Between 250,000 and 500,000 jobs a Month!' - Joe Biden - Fox Nation

Has anyone seen Joe Biden lately?

"there's no possibility to restore 8 million jobs lost in the Great Recession." -- Joe "we will create 500,000 jobs a month" Biden, June 2010

Biden: We Can't Recover All the Jobs Lost - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

Joe? How many people live in your head?