Jimmy Carter - Losing My Religion

Valerie · Jul 22, 2009

In the Name of Equality: Jimmy Carter Leaves Southern Baptist Convention

Jimmy Carter released a profound statement last week titled "Losing My Religion for Equality" about how he has chosen to leave his church, the Southern Baptist Convention due to the discriminatory practices toward women. Read through what he says below - it will certainly challenge anyone, of any faith, to reconsider how women are viewed in the eyes of the Church, and the eyes of God:

So my decision to sever my ties with the Southern Baptist Convention, after six decades, was painful and difficult. It was, however, an unavoidable decision when th e convention's leaders, quoting a few carefully selected Bible verses and claiming that Eve was created second to Adam and was responsible for original sin, ordained that women must be "subservient" to their husbands and prohibited from serving as deacons, pastors or chaplains in the military service. This was in conflict with my belief - confirmed in the holy scriptures - that we are all equal in the eyes of God.

This view that women are somehow inferior to men is not restricted to one religion or belief. It is widespread. Women are prevented from playing a full and equal role in many faiths.

Nor, tragically, does its influence stop at the walls of the church, mosque, synagogue or temple. This discrimination, unjustifiably attributed to a Higher Authority, has provided a reason or excuse for the deprivation of women's equal rights across the world for centuries. The male interpretations of religious texts and the way they interact with, and reinforce, traditional practices justify some of the most pervasive, persistent, flagrant and damaging examples of human rights abuses.
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Women's Rights - Change.org: In the Name of Equality: Jimmy Carter Leaves Southern Baptist Convention

AllieBaba · Jul 22, 2009

Those are pretty basic Baptist tenets. I find it amazing that he's stuck with the church for that long.

No doubt he'll become Methodist now. Or Episcopalian. They allow female pastors and openly gay clergy.

dilloduck · Jul 22, 2009

Hell, he may even join the Al Gore Church of Global Warming and Pretending Immortality is Possible.

Avatar4321 · Jul 22, 2009

Doesnt sound like he lost anything. Doesnt sound like he ever believed in it really.

BrokenAngel · Jul 22, 2009

Valerie said: ↑

In the Name of Equality: Jimmy Carter Leaves Southern Baptist Convention

Jimmy Carter released a profound statement last week titled "Losing My Religion for Equality" about how he has chosen to leave his church, the Southern Baptist Convention due to the discriminatory practices toward women. Read through what he says below - it will certainly challenge anyone, of any faith, to reconsider how women are viewed in the eyes of the Church, and the eyes of God:

So my decision to sever my ties with the Southern Baptist Convention, after six decades, was painful and difficult. It was, however, an unavoidable decision when th e convention's leaders, quoting a few carefully selected Bible verses and claiming that Eve was created second to Adam and was responsible for original sin, ordained that women must be "subservient" to their husbands and prohibited from serving as deacons, pastors or chaplains in the military service. This was in conflict with my belief - confirmed in the holy scriptures - that we are all equal in the eyes of God.

This view that women are somehow inferior to men is not restricted to one religion or belief. It is widespread. Women are prevented from playing a full and equal role in many faiths.

Nor, tragically, does its influence stop at the walls of the church, mosque, synagogue or temple. This discrimination, unjustifiably attributed to a Higher Authority, has provided a reason or excuse for the deprivation of women's equal rights across the world for centuries. The male interpretations of religious texts and the way they interact with, and reinforce, traditional practices justify some of the most pervasive, persistent, flagrant and damaging examples of human rights abuses.
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Women's Rights - Change.org: In the Name of Equality: Jimmy Carter Leaves Southern Baptist Convention
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These are basic stories when it comes to any of the Judeo-Christian religions. Hebrew lore goes further with the mythos of the origin of Lilith, the screech owl. Women are also supposed to cover their heads in prayer so as to not tempt the angels with their beauty and men are supposed to remain without a cap so as to glorify God's creation.

If Carter didn't realize this years ago he is a little slow on the uptake. If he is making a stand to help further demonize the religious conservatives he is a jerk. Either way he loses a little respect from me. The man has done great things to help people, probably more with his own two hands than any recent president, but this wasn't a decision that really needed to be made public. Religious choice and belief is personal and should stay that way.

dilloduck · Jul 22, 2009

He's an idiot and his actions are far from deserving any attention from the press. Hard to resist a good Christian bashing headline tho. "lusted in my heart" what a buffoon

Valerie · Jul 22, 2009

BrokenAngel said: ↑

Valerie said: ↑

In the Name of Equality: Jimmy Carter Leaves Southern Baptist Convention

Jimmy Carter released a profound statement last week titled "Losing My Religion for Equality" about how he has chosen to leave his church, the Southern Baptist Convention due to the discriminatory practices toward women. Read through what he says below - it will certainly challenge anyone, of any faith, to reconsider how women are viewed in the eyes of the Church, and the eyes of God:

So my decision to sever my ties with the Southern Baptist Convention, after six decades, was painful and difficult. It was, however, an unavoidable decision when th e convention's leaders, quoting a few carefully selected Bible verses and claiming that Eve was created second to Adam and was responsible for original sin, ordained that women must be "subservient" to their husbands and prohibited from serving as deacons, pastors or chaplains in the military service. This was in conflict with my belief - confirmed in the holy scriptures - that we are all equal in the eyes of God.

This view that women are somehow inferior to men is not restricted to one religion or belief. It is widespread. Women are prevented from playing a full and equal role in many faiths.

Nor, tragically, does its influence stop at the walls of the church, mosque, synagogue or temple. This discrimination, unjustifiably attributed to a Higher Authority, has provided a reason or excuse for the deprivation of women's equal rights across the world for centuries. The male interpretations of religious texts and the way they interact with, and reinforce, traditional practices justify some of the most pervasive, persistent, flagrant and damaging examples of human rights abuses.
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Women's Rights - Change.org: In the Name of Equality: Jimmy Carter Leaves Southern Baptist Convention
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These are basic stories when it comes to any of the Judeo-Christian religions. Hebrew lore goes further with the mythos of the origin of Lilith, the screech owl. Women are also supposed to cover their heads in prayer so as to not tempt the angels with their beauty and men are supposed to remain without a cap so as to glorify God's creation.

If Carter didn't realize this years ago he is a little slow on the uptake. If he is making a stand to help further demonize the religious conservatives he is a jerk. Either way he loses a little respect from me. The man has done great things to help people, probably more with his own two hands than any recent president, but this wasn't a decision that really needed to be made public. Religious choice and belief is personal and should stay that way.
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Seems to me he's acting on his conscience and speaking from his heart.

“Religion and tradition are a great force for peace and progress around the world,” The Elders expressed in statement released this month to mark the launch of the organization’s latest initiative.

“However, as Elders, we believe that the justification of discrimination against women and girls on grounds of religion or tradition, as if it were prescribed by a higher authority, is unacceptable,” added the 12-person organization brought together by former South African president Nelson Mandela.

In an effort to bring change to and end religious and traditional practices that discriminate against women and girls, The Elders are using their latest initiative to reveal how the “deep-rooted belief that women are worth less than men has infected every aspect of our societies.”

They say such beliefs has led to brutal violence and mistreatment against women and has denied girls and women fair access to education, health, employment, property and influence within their own communities.

“It is not just women who are paying an enormous price for this cultural and religious prejudice. We all suffer when women and girls are abused and their needs are neglected. By denying them security and opportunity, we embed unfairness in our societies and fail to make the most of the talents of half the population,” The Elders state.

Last week, former President Carter attempted to draw greater attention to The Elders’ gender equality initiative by submitting an op-ed to newspapers including the U.K.-based Guardian and Australia-based The Age.

In his piece, Carter recalled his “painful and difficult” decision to sever ties with the Southern Baptist Convention in 2000 after having been a part of the denomination for six decades.

The decision, he said, was “unavoidable ... when the convention’s leaders, quoting a few carefully selected Bible verses and claiming that Eve was created second to Adam and was responsible for original sin, ordained that women must be ‘subservient’ to their husbands and prohibited from serving as deacons, pastors or chaplains in the military service.”

“It is simply self-defeating for any community to discriminate against half its population,” Carter charged. “We need to challenge these self-serving and outdated attitudes and practices - as we are seeing in Iran where women are at the forefront of the battle for democracy and freedom.”
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Jimmy Carter and Co. Confront 'Religious Prejudice' Against Women | Christianpost.com

As a woman and a Christian, I applaud him.

dilloduck · Jul 22, 2009

Valerie said: ↑

BrokenAngel said: ↑

Valerie said: ↑

Women's Rights - Change.org: In the Name of Equality: Jimmy Carter Leaves Southern Baptist Convention
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These are basic stories when it comes to any of the Judeo-Christian religions. Hebrew lore goes further with the mythos of the origin of Lilith, the screech owl. Women are also supposed to cover their heads in prayer so as to not tempt the angels with their beauty and men are supposed to remain without a cap so as to glorify God's creation.

If Carter didn't realize this years ago he is a little slow on the uptake. If he is making a stand to help further demonize the religious conservatives he is a jerk. Either way he loses a little respect from me. The man has done great things to help people, probably more with his own two hands than any recent president, but this wasn't a decision that really needed to be made public. Religious choice and belief is personal and should stay that way.
Click to expand...

Seems to me he's acting on his conscience and speaking from his heart.

Religion and tradition are a great force for peace and progress around the world, The Elders expressed in statement released this month to mark the launch of the organizations latest initiative.

However, as Elders, we believe that the justification of discrimination against women and girls on grounds of religion or tradition, as if it were prescribed by a higher authority, is unacceptable, added the 12-person organization brought together by former South African president Nelson Mandela.

In an effort to bring change to and end religious and traditional practices that discriminate against women and girls, The Elders are using their latest initiative to reveal how the deep-rooted belief that women are worth less than men has infected every aspect of our societies.

They say such beliefs has led to brutal violence and mistreatment against women and has denied girls and women fair access to education, health, employment, property and influence within their own communities.

It is not just women who are paying an enormous price for this cultural and religious prejudice. We all suffer when women and girls are abused and their needs are neglected. By denying them security and opportunity, we embed unfairness in our societies and fail to make the most of the talents of half the population, The Elders state.

Last week, former President Carter attempted to draw greater attention to The Elders gender equality initiative by submitting an op-ed to newspapers including the U.K.-based Guardian and Australia-based The Age.

In his piece, Carter recalled his painful and difficult decision to sever ties with the Southern Baptist Convention in 2000 after having been a part of the denomination for six decades.

The decision, he said, was unavoidable ... when the conventions leaders, quoting a few carefully selected Bible verses and claiming that Eve was created second to Adam and was responsible for original sin, ordained that women must be subservient to their husbands and prohibited from serving as deacons, pastors or chaplains in the military service.

It is simply self-defeating for any community to discriminate against half its population, Carter charged. We need to challenge these self-serving and outdated attitudes and practices - as we are seeing in Iran where women are at the forefront of the battle for democracy and freedom.
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Jimmy Carter and Co. Confront 'Religious Prejudice' Against Women | Christianpost.com

As a woman and a Christian, I applaud him.
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through off those shackles, Val !!

Valerie · Jul 22, 2009

dilloduck said: ↑

Valerie said: ↑

BrokenAngel said: ↑

These are basic stories when it comes to any of the Judeo-Christian religions. Hebrew lore goes further with the mythos of the origin of Lilith, the screech owl. Women are also supposed to cover their heads in prayer so as to not tempt the angels with their beauty and men are supposed to remain without a cap so as to glorify God's creation.

If Carter didn't realize this years ago he is a little slow on the uptake. If he is making a stand to help further demonize the religious conservatives he is a jerk. Either way he loses a little respect from me. The man has done great things to help people, probably more with his own two hands than any recent president, but this wasn't a decision that really needed to be made public. Religious choice and belief is personal and should stay that way.
Click to expand...

Seems to me he's acting on his conscience and speaking from his heart.

Religion and tradition are a great force for peace and progress around the world, The Elders expressed in statement released this month to mark the launch of the organizations latest initiative.

However, as Elders, we believe that the justification of discrimination against women and girls on grounds of religion or tradition, as if it were prescribed by a higher authority, is unacceptable, added the 12-person organization brought together by former South African president Nelson Mandela.

In an effort to bring change to and end religious and traditional practices that discriminate against women and girls, The Elders are using their latest initiative to reveal how the deep-rooted belief that women are worth less than men has infected every aspect of our societies.

They say such beliefs has led to brutal violence and mistreatment against women and has denied girls and women fair access to education, health, employment, property and influence within their own communities.

It is not just women who are paying an enormous price for this cultural and religious prejudice. We all suffer when women and girls are abused and their needs are neglected. By denying them security and opportunity, we embed unfairness in our societies and fail to make the most of the talents of half the population, The Elders state.

Last week, former President Carter attempted to draw greater attention to The Elders gender equality initiative by submitting an op-ed to newspapers including the U.K.-based Guardian and Australia-based The Age.

In his piece, Carter recalled his painful and difficult decision to sever ties with the Southern Baptist Convention in 2000 after having been a part of the denomination for six decades.

The decision, he said, was unavoidable ... when the conventions leaders, quoting a few carefully selected Bible verses and claiming that Eve was created second to Adam and was responsible for original sin, ordained that women must be subservient to their husbands and prohibited from serving as deacons, pastors or chaplains in the military service.

It is simply self-defeating for any community to discriminate against half its population, Carter charged. We need to challenge these self-serving and outdated attitudes and practices - as we are seeing in Iran where women are at the forefront of the battle for democracy and freedom.
Click to expand...

Jimmy Carter and Co. Confront 'Religious Prejudice' Against Women | Christianpost.com

As a woman and a Christian, I applaud him.
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through off those shackles, Val !!
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Jimmy Carter | The Elders

dilloduck · Jul 22, 2009

Valerie said: ↑

dilloduck said: ↑

Valerie said: ↑

Seems to me he's acting on his conscience and speaking from his heart.

Jimmy Carter and Co. Confront 'Religious Prejudice' Against Women | Christianpost.com

As a woman and a Christian, I applaud him.
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through off those shackles, Val !!
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Jimmy Carter | The Elders
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unless you're into that stuff of course !

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