.Jim DeMint votes to give Federal government controversial new pow

[ScienceRocks]

.Jim DeMint votes to give Federal government controversial new powers.

.Two days ago I wrote that South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham was backing the creation of broad and controversial new powers for the Federal government.

Senators Carl Levin (D-MI), John McCain (R-AZ), and Lindsey Graham (R-SC) crafted legislation to allow the US military to arrest US citizens on US soil, suspend their constitutional rights, and detain them indefinitely. The provisions would completely do away with Posse Comitatus. The provisions were inserted into the Defense Spending Bill in section 1031 and 1032.

As a smokescreen, section 1031 grants the military the power to arrest and detain foreigners on US soil. Then 1032 expands the power to include US citizens. It was apparently hoped that section 1032 would go completely unnoticed.

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Levin, McCain, and Graham say only legitimate "terrorists" will be arrested and detained by the military. However, that assumes that the current or any future president does not abuse the power.

Senator Mark Udall (D-CO_ introduced an amendment to strip out the provisions. His amendment was cosponsored by Rand Paul (R-KY), and Jim Webb (D-VA).

However the Senate voted 60-38 against the amendment. Only two Republicans voted against it.

So far, the "mainstream" press has given the issue very little coverage. However, a firestorm of anger has erupted on left-wing, right-wing, and libertarian websites. The main backers of the provisions seem to be the Neo-con wing of the Republican party.

RT, Russia's English language international news network ran a long segment portraying the US as an emerging police state.

From US Senate.gov

YEAs ---38

Akaka (D-HI)

Baucus (D-MT)

Bennet (D-CO)

Bingaman (D-NM)

Blumenthal (D-CT)

Boxer (D-CA)

Brown (D-OH)

Cantwell (D-WA)

Cardin (D-MD)

Carper (D-DE)

Coons (D-DE)

Durbin (D-IL)

Feinstein (D-CA)

Franken (D-MN)

Gillibrand (D-NY)

Harkin (D-IA)

Johnson (D-SD)

Kerry (D-MA)

Kirk (R-IL)

Klobuchar (D-MN)

Lautenberg (D-NJ)

Leahy (D-VT)

Menendez (D-NJ)

Merkley (D-OR)

Mikulski (D-MD)

Murray (D-WA)

Nelson (D-FL)

Paul (R-KY)

Reid (D-NV)

Rockefeller (D-WV)

Sanders (I-VT)

Schumer (D-NY)

Tester (D-MT)

Udall (D-CO)

Udall (D-NM)

Warner (D-VA)

Webb (D-VA)

Wyden (D-OR)

NAYs ---60

Alexander (R-TN)

Ayotte (R-NH)

Barrasso (R-WY)

Blunt (R-MO)

Boozman (R-AR)

Brown (R-MA)

Burr (R-NC)

Casey (D-PA)

​Chambliss (R-GA)

Coats (R-IN)

Coburn (R-OK)

Cochran (R-MS)

Collins (R-ME)

Conrad (D-ND)

Corker (R-TN)

Cornyn (R-TX)

Crapo (R-ID)

DeMint (R-SC)

Enzi (R-WY)

Graham (R-SC)

Grassley (R-IA)

Hagan (D-NC)

Hatch (R-UT)

Heller (R-NV)

Hoeven (R-ND)

Hutchison (R-TX)

Inhofe (R-OK)

Inouye (D-HI)

Isakson (R-GA)

Johanns (R-NE)

Johnson (R-WI)

Kohl (D-WI)

Kyl (R-AZ)

Landrieu (D-LA)

Lee (R-UT)

Levin (D-MI)

Lieberman (ID-CT)

Lugar (R-IN)

Manchin (D-WV)

McCain (R-AZ)

McCaskill (D-MO)

McConnell (R-KY)

Moran (R-KS)

Nelson (D-NE)

Portman (R-OH)

Pryor (D-AR)

Reed (D-RI)

Risch (R-ID)

Roberts (R-KS)

Rubio (R-FL)

Sessions (R-AL)

Shaheen (D-NH)

Shelby (R-AL)

Snowe (R-ME)

Stabenow (D-MI)

Thune (R-SD)

Toomey (R-PA)

Vitter (R-LA)

Whitehouse (D-RI)

Wicker (R-MS)

Not Voting - 2

Begich (D-AK)

Murkowski (R-AK)
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Fuckers!!!

 

[ScienceRocks]

Senators Carl Levin (D-MI), John McCain (R-AZ), and Lindsey Graham (R-SC) crafted legislation to allow the US military to arrest US citizens on US soil, suspend their constitutional rights, and detain them indefinitely. The provisions would completely do away with Posse Comitatus. The provisions were inserted into the Defense Spending Bill in section 1031 and 1032.

As a smokescreen, section 1031 grants the military the power to arrest and detain foreigners on US soil. Then 1032 expands the power to include US citizens. It was apparently hoped that section 1032 would go completely unnoticed.

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Levin, McCain, and Graham say only legitimate "terrorists" will be arrested and detained by the military. However, that assumes that the current or any future president does not abuse the power.


OMFG these pieces of fucking shit. I hope Obama can VETO it.

 

[Conservative]

Incorrect.

I posted the entire section in another thread... Section 1032 specifically EXCLUDES US Citizens.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/196167-watch-out-its-coming-the-political-elite-are-going-to-take-your-rights-away-4.html#post4468174

(1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.

 

[Photonic]

The terrorists have won.

The people of the US live in an almost constant state of fear, and this bill is just one of many to pop up showing the ugly monster that lives beneath the veil.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

it appears Jim DeMint and the Republicans did the RIGHT THING thing in rejecting the ACLU's/Udall's (D-CO)/Obama's sleight-of-hand amendment...

an amendment which would have repealed Section 1032 which actually exempts U.S. citizens....and potentially given the president/congress the power to actually detain U.S. citizens....

In opposing the bill the ACLU said “The Senate is going to vote on whether Congress will give this president—and every future president — the power to order the military to pick up and imprison without charge or trial civilians anywhere in the world. The power is so broad that even U.S. citizens could be swept up by the military and the military could be used far from any battlefield, even within the United States itself.”

Sen. Mark Udall echoed similar sentiments saying “One section of these provisions, section 1031, would be interpreted as allowing the military to capture and indefinitely detain American citizens on U.S. soil. Section 1031 essentially repeals the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 by authorizing the U.S. military to perform law enforcement functions on American soil.”

Udall subsequently proposed an amendment that he claims would alleviate these concerns. The Obama administration supported Udall’s amendment.

When one reads the actual text, it appears as if Udall’s amendment would have granted the president more authority than the sections the ACLU, Obama and others opposed.

Section 1031 of the bills explicitly states “Nothing in this section is intended to limit or expand the authority of the President or the scope of the Authorization for Use of Military Force.”

Section 1032 , which the ACLU says gives the president “the power to order the military to pick up and imprison without charge or trial civilians anywhere in the world,” actually says “The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.”

The Udall amendment which was supported by Obama and the ACLU repeals section 1032 which states it does not apply to American citizens; and instead calls for Attorney General Eric Holder, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Janet Napolitano, Homeland Security secretary to submit a report explaining what additional powers the president should be granted.

The amendment states that after receiving the report, Congress will pass legislation “modifying or expanding the authority of the Executive Branch to carry out detention and prosecution of covered persons.”

At that time Congress could have theoretically granted the military authority to detain American citizens on U.S. soil.

The Senate instead chose to reject the Udall amendment that could have granted the president more powers, favoring instead the bill that preserves the status quo.

Udall, ACLU attempted sleight of hand with opposition to military bill | Greeley Gazette

 

[Cowman]

Hurray police state!

I remember the old conservative rhetoric, "If you don't have anything to hide there's no problem." which was completely ridiculous and wrong.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Hurray police state!

I remember the old conservative rhetoric, "If you don't have anything to hide there's no problem." which was completely ridiculous and wrong.

Notice how it is THE DEMOCRATS who are doing the pushing for a police state.....and the Republicans who stopped them....

....one can't believe every thread title one reads....

 

[Conservative]

Senators Carl Levin (D-MI), John McCain (R-AZ), and Lindsey Graham (R-SC) crafted legislation to allow the US military to arrest US citizens on US soil, suspend their constitutional rights, and detain them indefinitely.

From US Senate.gov....


NAYs ---60


McCain (R-AZ)

Um... if McCain helped draft the legislation, why would he vote against it?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Senators Carl Levin (D-MI), John McCain (R-AZ), and Lindsey Graham (R-SC) crafted legislation to allow the US military to arrest US citizens on US soil, suspend their constitutional rights, and detain them indefinitely.

From US Senate.gov....


NAYs ---60


McCain (R-AZ)

Um... if McCain helped draft the legislation, why would he vote against it?

good question...

there is the original legislation.....

and the amendment which failed.....McCain voted against the sneaky amendment....

tricky stuff...the ACLU is VERY tricky....