Jesus was a capitalist – not a socialist

[Penelope]

So in essence you are saying they were panhandlers and gladly took in redistribution of wealth from the wealthy. Like today TV preachers. Thanks for the clarification.

No, socialists are not panhandlers, they mug you. Jesus doesn't mug you.

Socialist do not mug either, they tax.

Same thing.

The leader who sits in the Oval office doesn't like to pay taxes either . Lets get rid of the military. Are you pro that. Lets get rid of him , are you pro that.

The Military provide a service that keeps your sorry ass free, welfare bitches dont, they just shit, moan and groan.

Well the military sure gets most of our tax dollars, and no the military protects the oil industry.

 

[irosie91]

who is THE MILITARY?

 

[BreezeWood]

who is THE MILITARY?

The Military provide a service that keeps your sorry ass free, welfare bitches dont, they just shit, moan and groan.

presently,

skinhead revisionists ... pugs.

 

[Penelope]

who is THE MILITARY?

U.S. Armed Forces Overview


Discretionary Spending Breakdown

 

[lennypartiv]

Thank you, so they were socialist.

No, Jesus and his apostles were not socialists.

What on Earth make these crazy libs think Jesus was a socialist?

 

[Manonthestreet]

<<So, was Jesus really a socialist and is the gospel a message of socialism? The answer is “NO!”>>

Jesus was a capitalist – not a socialist | Reclaiming America for Christ

Redistribution of wealth is when everyone's taxes go to boarder guards;the military pay, money to make military equipment, VA benefits, food and shelter for military members; the US congress salaries, health ins, and pension; Federal and State workers, benefits, and pension plans; public school teachers, police, firemen, schools, libraries,
local zoos, ICE, and the big one TAX, even those who make min. wage. All gets redistributed.

Obama was right,

“[W]hen you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”

The term ‘socialism’ has been used to describe positions as far apart as anarchism, Soviet state Communism, and social democracy; however, it necessarily implies an opposition to the untrammeled workings of the economic market. The socialist parties that have arisen in most European countries from the late 19th century have generally tended towards social democracy

socialism | Definition of socialism in English by Lexico Dictionaries

The bible is not about money, only when it comes to Jesus paying his tax.

What about the lazy liberal schlobs who sit on their fucking asses all day smoking dope and whining how unfair this country is, while taking in welfare that is coming from US? 1 trillion dollars a year is what goes into welfare and Medicaid, cut that shit off, put the Trillion to the debt and in 15 years the debt would be gone. And many of the liberals would be gone for trying to steal other peoples money and shot.

Where did the apostles and Jesus get their money from??

Not from the govt

 

[Penelope]

<<So, was Jesus really a socialist and is the gospel a message of socialism? The answer is “NO!”>>

Jesus was a capitalist – not a socialist | Reclaiming America for Christ

Redistribution of wealth is when everyone's taxes go to boarder guards;the military pay, money to make military equipment, VA benefits, food and shelter for military members; the US congress salaries, health ins, and pension; Federal and State workers, benefits, and pension plans; public school teachers, police, firemen, schools, libraries,
local zoos, ICE, and the big one TAX, even those who make min. wage. All gets redistributed.

Obama was right,

“[W]hen you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”

The term ‘socialism’ has been used to describe positions as far apart as anarchism, Soviet state Communism, and social democracy; however, it necessarily implies an opposition to the untrammeled workings of the economic market. The socialist parties that have arisen in most European countries from the late 19th century have generally tended towards social democracy

socialism | Definition of socialism in English by Lexico Dictionaries

The bible is not about money, only when it comes to Jesus paying his tax.

What about the lazy liberal schlobs who sit on their fucking asses all day smoking dope and whining how unfair this country is, while taking in welfare that is coming from US? 1 trillion dollars a year is what goes into welfare and Medicaid, cut that shit off, put the Trillion to the debt and in 15 years the debt would be gone. And many of the liberals would be gone for trying to steal other peoples money and shot.

Where did the apostles and Jesus get their money from??

Not from the govt

The Romans established a form of government — a republic — that was copied by countries for centuries In fact, the government of the United States is based partly on Rome's model. The ladder to political power in the Roman Senate was different for the wealthy patricians than for the lower-class plebeians.
The Roman Republic [ushistory.org]

www.ushistory.org/civ/6a.asp
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sure they did. The Roman government.

 

[Manonthestreet]

<<So, was Jesus really a socialist and is the gospel a message of socialism? The answer is “NO!”>>

Jesus was a capitalist – not a socialist | Reclaiming America for Christ

Redistribution of wealth is when everyone's taxes go to boarder guards;the military pay, money to make military equipment, VA benefits, food and shelter for military members; the US congress salaries, health ins, and pension; Federal and State workers, benefits, and pension plans; public school teachers, police, firemen, schools, libraries,
local zoos, ICE, and the big one TAX, even those who make min. wage. All gets redistributed.

Obama was right,

“[W]hen you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”

The term ‘socialism’ has been used to describe positions as far apart as anarchism, Soviet state Communism, and social democracy; however, it necessarily implies an opposition to the untrammeled workings of the economic market. The socialist parties that have arisen in most European countries from the late 19th century have generally tended towards social democracy

socialism | Definition of socialism in English by Lexico Dictionaries

The bible is not about money, only when it comes to Jesus paying his tax.

What about the lazy liberal schlobs who sit on their fucking asses all day smoking dope and whining how unfair this country is, while taking in welfare that is coming from US? 1 trillion dollars a year is what goes into welfare and Medicaid, cut that shit off, put the Trillion to the debt and in 15 years the debt would be gone. And many of the liberals would be gone for trying to steal other peoples money and shot.

Where did the apostles and Jesus get their money from??

Not from the govt

The Romans established a form of government — a republic — that was copied by countries for centuries In fact, the government of the United States is based partly on Rome's model. The ladder to political power in the Roman Senate was different for the wealthy patricians than for the lower-class plebeians.
The Roman Republic [ushistory.org]

www.ushistory.org/civ/6a.asp
----------------------------------------
sure they did. The Roman government.

No....he didn't. Lie much

 

[Penelope]

Thank you, so they were socialist.

No, Jesus and his apostles were not socialists.

What on Earth make these crazy libs think Jesus was a socialist?

Because he was. You do not get to make Jesus in the GOP's image nor in yours.

 

[Penelope]

Redistribution of wealth is when everyone's taxes go to boarder guards;the military pay, money to make military equipment, VA benefits, food and shelter for military members; the US congress salaries, health ins, and pension; Federal and State workers, benefits, and pension plans; public school teachers, police, firemen, schools, libraries,
local zoos, ICE, and the big one TAX, even those who make min. wage. All gets redistributed.

Obama was right,socialism | Definition of socialism in English by Lexico Dictionaries

The bible is not about money, only when it comes to Jesus paying his tax.

What about the lazy liberal schlobs who sit on their fucking asses all day smoking dope and whining how unfair this country is, while taking in welfare that is coming from US? 1 trillion dollars a year is what goes into welfare and Medicaid, cut that shit off, put the Trillion to the debt and in 15 years the debt would be gone. And many of the liberals would be gone for trying to steal other peoples money and shot.

Where did the apostles and Jesus get their money from??

Not from the govt

The Romans established a form of government — a republic — that was copied by countries for centuries In fact, the government of the United States is based partly on Rome's model. The ladder to political power in the Roman Senate was different for the wealthy patricians than for the lower-class plebeians.
The Roman Republic [ushistory.org]

www.ushistory.org/civ/6a.asp
----------------------------------------
sure they did. The Roman government.

No....he didn't. Lie much

The rich following Jesus gave them money. Not the government at the time.

Welfare in ancient Rome
In the Roman Empire, the first emperor Augustus provided the Cura Annonae or grain dole for citizens who could not afford to buy food every month. Social welfare was enlarged by the Emperor Trajan. ... Otto von Bismarck, Chancellor of Germany, introduced one of the first welfare systems for the working classes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare
Welfare - Wikipedia

Search for: Welfare in ancient Rome

 

[Picaro]

The group that is like the socialists is the Sadducees of the Gospels, not Jesus.

What? The Sadducee were the aristocrat class, nobility, with inherited offices, lands, etc. They weren't 'free marketers', but hardly 'socialists'.

In any case, such terms didn't exist then, and few capitalists believe in fair trade or honest pay for proles, so it's a moot point; same old stuff, different day, when it comes to privatizing the profits while socializing the costs when it comes to most of modern 'capitalism'.

"nobility with inherited offices and lands"? what were their "inherited offices"? on what basis were they "inherited" where did you get this "information". Were they also the "religious leaders" that some seem to imagine Jesus disliked? Did they control the Sanhedrin?
I don't deny that Jesus disliked the sadducees-------of course he did----

They inherited certain priest positions in the Temple, for one, along with real estate, certain Court judge positions, business positions, etc. I also see you getting stupid at this point ...

They are
no longer extant------DA PHARISEES WON. A little quiz----was Herod a Sadducee? a Pharisee? How about CAIAPHAS?------the guy who handed
Jesus over to Pilate----CAIAPHAS ---Pharisee? recognized religious leader?
Are you a SADDUCEE pic?

Nobody is talking about modern times, dumbass. You think you can confuse the issue enough without knowing much about it, do you?

 

[irosie91]

for the record- PIC IS CONFUSED----SADDUCEE is a sect of Judaism----not a CASTE The sect most specifically FAVORS Hellenism and Rome and
opposed the PHARISEE sect. While people could inherit land-----positions of judges were appointed or voted upon. At the time of Jesus----the Sadducess by licking roman ass got preference and the romans did the appointing just as they appointed Herod, the edomite-----KING. One did not INHERIT position
of judge . Priest is confined to persons who are of the cohen division
of the LEVITE tribe. They had no assigned TRIBAL LAND AT ALL.
The money changers in the Temple were DESPISED by the PHARISEES because they were shills to the Sadducees and the ROMANS-----which is why Jesus attacked them, Caiaphas----the "high priest" who handed Jesus to Pilate was a
SADDUCEE ROMAN APPOINTEE------a 100% rome man

 

[Picaro]

<<So, was Jesus really a socialist and is the gospel a message of socialism? The answer is “NO!”>>

Jesus was a capitalist – not a socialist | Reclaiming America for Christ

And there ya go, taking the Christ outta Christianity again.

I know this has already been posted, maybe you missed it?

Rules for Radicals, use the oppositions book against them, for they cant stay within its boundaries. Liberals who hate Jesus only bring up Jesus when it suits their needs. Bunch of fucking hypocrites.

They will all die. The Book of Acts describes 2 people dropping dead instantaneously for lying that they didn't pocket some of the communal money for themselves personally like a socialist leader.

There is a little more to the story than that; they were under no obligation to give anything at all in the first place, but wanted to impress the other members and do some 'social climbing', not giving freely to help those less fortunate.

there seems to be a some popular idiotic notion that Da Xians area ll supposed to beg fro a living and live out of dumpsters or something, or they're 'aren't real Xians N Stuff'. That idiocy ignores the obvious fact all the Disciples had trades they worked at, and the need to provide the social services the churches were supposed to provide certainly required a congregation that was gainfully employed; you can't feed all those widows, orphans, and disabled and sick people if you're a bum. That 'New Improved Hippie Jesus' many dope addled Burb Brats and sociopaths who don't do much for anybody else themselves think exists was just a distorted narrative from dumbasses who can't read or have much in the way of reasoning skills. It comes for Jewish culture, in fact, and at least until the 1930's or so was still a big part of Jewish life, represented by their 'free schools', synagogue programs that loaned money to trustworthy people who wanted to start small businesses or buy the means to sub-contract from bigger businesses, etc. It wasn't anything invented by Xians, it was already part of Jewish life then; maybe Matloff cleaned them all out ans that no longer is a feature of Jewish culture, outside of rich uncles showing up at their kids' barmitzvahs or something, don't know.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Haha, Jesus was neither, since both concepts didn't exist back then.
But,
obviously Jesus was more like a Socialist, having spoken against greed, supported giving to the poor, supporting taxes, and going nuts ONLY in a bank against the money changers.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

They will all die. The Book of Acts describes 2 people dropping dead instantaneously for lying that they didn't pocket some of the communal money for themselves personally like a socialist leader.

Also Jesus and his apostles lived off of rich women because they gave up fishing and their families. The first Christian church was set up like a commune.

What is interesting, is that when you put a physical piece of yourself into something that you believe in, then your belief becomes physical reality. By the way, This is true not only for the faith in Jesus, but also every stupid faith too. For doing this for Jesus, the only non stupid faith, those rich women were most beneficial to God Himself, and as explained in the New Testament, they will receive their rewards in heaven.

The opposite of this happened too, when a moron called Luther invented at the late medieval ages, that the Church selling tickets for getting friends out of purgatory was unethical and useless. Taking away people's salvation in this way gets him his reward in hell along with all the other heretics.

So in essence you are saying they were panhandlers and gladly took in redistribution of wealth from the wealthy. Like today TV preachers. Thanks for the clarification.

TV preachers provide a service to people, willingly giving up their money. If a person pan handles on the street for money, freely given, that is the same thing, both charitable. But when dickless politicians steal my money from me, then give it to liberal bitches like you, then that isnt charity, but theft... again you never thank US for providing your welfare, just bitch and moan that it isnt enough.

You're kidding right?

TV preachers lie, cheat, and steal from the most vulnerable segments of our population. They are criminals and con men, nothing more.

No politicians lie, steal and cheat, stupid fucks like you believe them, while I dont remember ever having a preacher/priest, force my by the IRS to contribute through taxation. I know it is hard for you to realize the difference between the two, because your IQ is only 40.

 

[Picaro]

for the record- PIC IS CONFUSED----SADDUCEE is a sect of Judaism----not a CASTE T

Rubbish. They were a feudal caste set up by the returning Exiles, and the Pharisees were a sect, formed by scribes, though one didn't have to be a scribe to be a member, one that came along later and took over a lot of legal positions as judges, thus vying for power with the Sadducees. Jewish life had pretty extensive 'racial purity' laws' by then, which is why so many Jews were increasingly alienated, and ripe to be influenced for other movements that more closely included them in the old Torah traditions of Moses times.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

No, socialists are not panhandlers, they mug you. Jesus doesn't mug you.

Socialist do not mug either, they tax.

Same thing.

The leader who sits in the Oval office doesn't like to pay taxes either . Lets get rid of the military. Are you pro that. Lets get rid of him , are you pro that.

The Military provide a service that keeps your sorry ass free, welfare bitches dont, they just shit, moan and groan.

Well the military sure gets most of our tax dollars, and no the military protects the oil industry.

Again, why dont you look at my signature. Then pull your head out of that big ass. You are so wrong again.

the War on Poverty has been incredibly expensive. Robert Rector, senior research fellow in domestic policy studies at the Heritage Foundation, writes that “taxpayers have spent $22 trillion on Johnson’s war. Adjusted for inflation, that’s three times the cost of all military wars since the American Revolution.”

 

[Picaro]

You shall allot it as an inheritance for yourselves and for the aliens who reside among you and have begotten children among you. They shall be to you as citizens of Israel; with you they shall be allotted an inheritance among the tribes of Israel.
Ezekiel 47:22

And the context of that verse among all the others is?

Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.
Zechariah 7:9-10

Try fulfilling all those duties and obligations by being a destitute bum or via some variant of Stalinesque statism. Peter and others were prosperous fishermen, Paul was a tentmaker, and supported himself as such, etc. They didn't sit around living off charity, despite the fake narratives some attempt to draw from isolated quotes of single verses.

 

[Slade3200]

You shall allot it as an inheritance for yourselves and for the aliens who reside among you and have begotten children among you. They shall be to you as citizens of Israel; with you they shall be allotted an inheritance among the tribes of Israel.
Ezekiel 47:22

And the context of that verse among all the others is?

Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.
Zechariah 7:9-10

Try fulfilling all those duties and obligations by being a destitute bum or via some variant of Stalinesque statism. Peter and others were prosperous fishermen, Paul was a tentmaker, and supported himself as such, etc. They didn't sit around living off charity, despite the fake narratives some attempt to draw from isolated quotes of single verses.

What does sitting around being a bum have to do with anything that we are talking about. Are you implying that’s what immigrants do?

 

[Penelope]

Socialist do not mug either, they tax.

Same thing.

The leader who sits in the Oval office doesn't like to pay taxes either . Lets get rid of the military. Are you pro that. Lets get rid of him , are you pro that.

The Military provide a service that keeps your sorry ass free, welfare bitches dont, they just shit, moan and groan.

Well the military sure gets most of our tax dollars, and no the military protects the oil industry.

Again, why dont you look at my signature. Then pull your head out of that big ass. You are so wrong again.

the War on Poverty has been incredibly expensive. Robert Rector, senior research fellow in domestic policy studies at the Heritage Foundation, writes that “taxpayers have spent $22 trillion on Johnson’s war. Adjusted for inflation, that’s three times the cost of all military wars since the American Revolution.”

You are a very sad person. Reagan started the war on the wealthy then.