Jesus didn't use cannabis oil the lies exposed

[PetriFB]

The High Times publication article claims that Jesus used oil mixed with cannabis (2.10.2003 Was Jesus a stoner?) The truth is that the Bible overrule and refute this false claim. Jesus and His disciples didn't use cannabis: Jesus cannabis oil ointment Bible healing kaneh bosem

 

[shimon]

Jesus did not use cannabis oil obviously because he did not exsist but his followers are canibaals because they symbolically are taught to eat his flesh and drink his blood.... Baal worshipping in any form is wrong but then maybe many of his followers need to get high on cannabis to forget this fact and prefer a different type of stoning ....

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Jesus did not use cannabis oil obviously because he did not exsist but his followers are canibaals because they symbolically are taught to eat his flesh and drink his blood.... Baal worshipping in any form is wrong but then maybe many of his followers need to get high on cannabis to forget this fact and prefer a different type of stoning ....

He didn't? Whose followers did Nero persecute in 66AD?

 

[shimon]

Well thats the problem frank there is no historical evidence outside of the gospels except the obvious forgery in joesephis that jesus exsisted... Now there were different groups of people who were claimed to be christs of a kind and they had followers but no one man can be proven to be jesus as a matter of fact it is an amalgamation of many different characters and stories and myths....there is no time frame etc etc...even quoting a year 66 ad for example is incorrect as the calendar we use today could be off by 7 years as the monk hired by rome in the 6 th century to create the current calendar made a mistake of by many accounts of at least 7 years in his timing.... It is quite funny as we could be in the year 2022 if the mistake war rectified and the 66 ad number could be off because nero was fiddlying in another year.....lol...

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Ya, the guy both Jews and Muslims say existed didn't really because we all have nothing better to do than acknowledge mythical figures as real ones.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Ya, the guy both Jews and Muslims say existed didn't really because we all have nothing better to do than acknowledge mythical figures as real ones.

Whose follower was Nero persecuting in 66AD?

Whose followers were told to flee to Pella as soon as they saw the enemy standards and were therefore spared the destruction of Jerusalem

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Well thats the problem frank there is no historical evidence outside of the gospels except the obvious forgery in joesephis that jesus exsisted... Now there were different groups of people who were claimed to be christs of a kind and they had followers but no one man can be proven to be jesus as a matter of fact it is an amalgamation of many different characters and stories and myths....there is no time frame etc etc...even quoting a year 66 ad for example is incorrect as the calendar we use today could be off by 7 years as the monk hired by rome in the 6 th century to create the current calendar made a mistake of by many accounts of at least 7 years in his timing.... It is quite funny as we could be in the year 2022 if the mistake war rectified and the 66 ad number could be off because nero was fiddlying in another year.....lol...

Where in the Gospels was Nero?

 

[HaShev]

He didn't use cannabis but they did use mushrooms.
Think about, how can all 12 fall asleep watching over their cult leader? According to the gospel of Judas it's because they were all high party animals.
If Judas exposed the cult for what it was and not the image the church needs, then of course the church writes Judas as a villain. They do this to demonize him in the eyes of followers, so they never trust anything accounted by him.

A newly translated Gnostic gospel, entitled The Secret Book of Judas of
Kerioth, According to this seemingly
authentic early Cainite-Ophite text, translated from the Coptic by Mohammed al-Murtada and Francis Bendik, said Jesus had served an LSD-like psychedelic at
the Last Supper, faked his own crucifixion in collaboration with Judas and
Joseph of Arimathea [as in the Koranic account] and died a natural death.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

So if Jesus faked his Crucifixion, why didn't Caiaphas produce the body?

That would have ended the entire debate.

That's why there were Roman posted guards at the tomb, to prevent precisely that.

Yet the massive stone was sheared from the bolts and rolls off of the tomb causing the guards to flee in panic

It would have been so easy to end the "fake"

 

[HaShev]

Crusader, using your religions self testimony is invalid and if you disagree with me then you also disagree with Jesus who said self testifying is not a valid testimony.

Furthermore using your standard we can ask why did the church claim to have the shroud of Judas while not having the shroud of Jesus if they didn't pull a
switch -a- roo or that your Galilean christ wasn't Yehuda the tax revolter?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Crusader, using your religions self testimony is invalid and if you disagree with me then you also disagree with Jesus who said self testifying is not a valid testimony.

Furthermore using your standard we can ask why did the church claim to have the shroud of Judas while not having the shroud of Jesus if they didn't pull a
switch -a- roo or that your Galilean christ wasn't Yehuda the tax revolter?

I disagree with you simply because you're wrong.

The "Tax revolver" said to "render unto Caesar..." doesn't sound like much of a revolt

 

[HaShev]

CRUSADER **Whose follower was Nero persecuting in 66AD?

THEUDAS BY THE JORDAN he's the only A.D. era christ who's apostles were martyrs.

 

[HaShev]

Like Rome is gonna allow a tax revolting commentary in it's charade used to collect taxes under the guise of tithes to this new idol god. Why do you think the RCC church venerates and favors the 100bc figure Yeshu son of Mary instead of the Galilean?

 

[aris2chat]

Cane, myrrh, cinnamon, olive and hemp/cannabis oil.

The cannabis plant is chewed in childbirth and during minor 'surgery' like stitching wounds, sometimes with a mastic. Locals didn't really smoke it (some hash was mixed with tobacco for the argili) till the war. Oils, tinctures, poultices and drinks were made with it for local medical needs. It used to be a weed that goats would eat to keep orchards cleared, or cut and burned by farmers.
Made a lovely smell for sheets drying outside.

Cannabis has been a medicine around the world for more than 5000 yrs.

Aloe was also a commonly used medicine, used on Jesus in the tomb along with myrrh and aromatic oils like kaneh bosem and cinnamon.

An opium and vinegar mix was given to Jesus on the cross.

Since it is and was such a common medical herb/weed in the area for so long, why the question about Jesus using it or it being used on Jesus?

It is not like mentioning a plant found only in the deep jungles of south america. It was and is a common plant used in many ways, not just in medicines or to smoke. There are a number of strains with very little THC as well as most plants once they seed.

Cannabis was used in many ways throughout the region in the ancient world.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

CRUSADER **Whose follower was Nero persecuting in 66AD?

THEUDAS BY THE JORDAN he's the only A.D. era christ who's apostles were martyrs.

LOL

Sure.

That's actually funny

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Like Rome is gonna allow a tax revolting commentary in it's charade used to collect taxes under the guise of tithes to this new idol god. Why do you think the RCC church venerates and favors the 100bc figure Yeshu son of Mary instead of the Galilean?

I have no idea what you said in the first sentence.

 

[HaShev]

Ok let me say it this way.
You are Rome, you have revolts forming against your authority and taxes, just as the Brits had with the Americans during the revolution.
Do you allow the full information and speaches of the revolters and their christ or do you squelch his revolt and swallow up & hide his persona by converging him with a more palatable figure like Yeshu who was half Roman and opposed by the Jewish authority, thus turn blame?
You think Rome when using this one world religion to collect taxes, wants people to not pay their taxes to them?
Then why would Rome allow the formed texts by their authority carry tax revolt speaches?

 

[PetriFB]

2.10.2003 Chris Bennett wrote in High Times media an article called Was Jesus a stoner? Bennett claims that holy anointing oil contained cannabis (kaneh-bosem) in the book of Moses. His claim is that Jesus anointed people with oil that contained cannabis. The High Times article says that ancient Christian texts (The Acts of Peter, Twelve Apostles) record that Jesus gave His disciples unguent box and a pouch full of medicine that they would go to heal the sick ones. The article says that ancient text (The Acts of Thomas) record about using of holy oil in a purpose of healing the sick ones. The article says that Jesus and His disciples spread healing effects of cannabis in the ancient world.

Bennet said that if cannabis was one of the main ingredients of the ancient Christian anointing oil, as history now indicates, and receiving this oil is what made Jesus the Christ (anointed) and his followers Christians, and to persecute those who use cannabis, could be considered anti-Christ.

The High Times article says that Gnostic texts indicate that Jesus used anointing oil added with cannabis and other entheogens that also used in shamanic rituals and ceremonies. The high Times article says also that Gnostics used cannabis, mushrooms, and other substances as sacraments, a means of achieving spiritual gnosis (wisdom and understanding).

Ex 30:
23 Take thou also unto thee principal spices, of pure myrrh five hundred shekels, and of sweet cinnamon half so much, even two hundred and fifty shekels, and of sweet (besem - bosem) calamus (qaneh) two hundred and fifty shekels,
24 And of cassia five hundred shekels, after the shekel of the sanctuary, and of oil olive an hin:
25 And thou shalt make it an oil of holy ointment, an ointment compound after the art of the apothecary: it shall be an holy anointing oil.

The Hebrew word qaneh (calamus) refer to reed plant that grow near ponds, lakes and river and also on dry land. This plant (qaneh) did not grow in Israel, and according to researchers it was imported to Israel from Arabia and India. Researchers say that this reed plant was known in India as lemongrass or gingergrass. Some Bible scholars as famous Jewish rabbi Jarchi thought that probably this reed plant was brought more likely from Saba or some parts of Arabia than India, because Saba and Arabia was very near to Israel and India was very far off from Israel. Nowadays no one knows that what reed plant qaneh bosem was, but it is sure that it is not cannabis, because cannabis come from hemp plant that is not reed plant species.

Qaneh bosem or besem don't mean cannabis, but some sweet reed plant, whose origin we can't know for sure. The High Times article used Gnostic texts that it holds as ancient Christian texts. The truth is that Gnostic Christian texts are not the same thing than the Biblical text of the New Testament. Gnostic held Christianity as rival sect and they think that Gnosticism is the much better belief than Christianity. The purpose of Gnostic Christian text was to distort the message of the Biblical New Testament texts and therefore Gnostic Christian texts have not the authority of the Bible. For this reason Gnostic Christian texts have not connection to Jesus of the Bible and claims about Jesus and cannabis are false and untruthful claims.

 

[shimon]

Of course you all realize that Jesus was never annointed and certainly not in the proper fashion.....Also you do realize what the name is for the holy annointing oil dont you.....Hmmmmm....SHIMON....

 

[hobelim]

Do you allow the full information and speaches of the revolters and their christ or do you squelch his revolt and swallow up & hide his persona by converging him with a more palatable figure like Yeshu who was half Roman and opposed by the Jewish authority, thus turn blame?

Exactly. Which implies that there must have been an actual person whose teachings pissed off and humiliated a lot of people in high places enough for them to take great pains to bury and hide those teachings under a mountain of blasphemy and provide a false sugar coated anti semitic edible managed in his place that all Jews and intelligent beings would forever dismiss out of hand... or at least until and if he ever returned which they highly doubted but obviously worried enough about to make anyone like him fit perfectly the description of the antichrist even though the three for the price of one mangod fits perfectly that same description, a fabrication of the devil that has no real existence except as a phantom of the past and future that is wholly based on lies and perversions of the truth.

Only a very deep seated hatred for a very real person could have inspired that sorcery.