Jesus Christ Was An Occupier!

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John 12:13 :disbelief:
They took palm branches and went out to meet him, shouting, “Hosanna! “Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord! “Blessed is the king of Israel!”

John 1:49 :disbelief:
Then Nathanael declared, "Rabbi, you are the Son of God; you are the King of Israel."

Jesus Enters Jerusalem as King of Israel :disbelief:
John 12 Commentary - Jesus Enters Jerusalem as King of Israel - BibleGateway.com
Jesus' entry into Jerusalem is very dramatic. Passover was one of the three feasts that Jews were supposed to attend in Jerusalem, and consequently the population of Jerusalem swelled enormously at this time. As this great crowd is beginning to gather from around Israel and the larger world of the diaspora, news about Jesus is spreading, and people are wondering whether he will come to the feast. On Sunday, the day after the party in Bethany at which Mary anointed Jesus, news arrives that Jesus is on his way to Jerusalem, and a crowd of pilgrims, presumably those who had been wondering if he would come, goes out to meet him. Mary's private expression of emotion is now matched by the crowd's public outpouring of enthusiasm.

They shout Hosanna! Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!. These are lines from one of the Psalms of Ascents sung as a welcome to pilgrims coming up to Jerusalem. As such, this is an entirely appropriate thing to do as Jesus is coming up to Jerusalem. But there is more involved here. The cry of Hosanna! is a Hebrew word (hoshi`ah-na) that had become a greeting or shout of praise but that actually meant "Save!" or "Help!" (an intensive form of imperative). Not surprisingly, forms of this word were used to address the king with a need. Furthermore, the palm branches the people carry are symbolic of a victorious ruler Indeed, in an apocalyptic text from the Maccabean era, palms are mentioned in association with the coming of the messianic salvation on the Mount of Olives. The cry of Hosanna! and the palm branches are in themselves somewhat ambiguous, but their import is made clear as the crowd adds a further line, Blessed is the King of Israel!. Clearly they see in Jesus the answer to their nationalistic, messianic hopes. Earlier a crowd had wanted to make Jesus king, and now this crowd is recognizing him as king in the city of the great King. Here is the great dream of a Davidic ruler who would come and liberate Israel, establishing peace and subduing the Gentiles.

The crowd, in their messianic, nationalistic fervor, adds another line not found in the Psalm of Ascent: Blessed is the King of Israel! . This acclamation ties together the whole of Jesus' ministry up to this point, signaled by the word Israel. Apart from this verse, the words Israel and Israelite occur only in the first three chapters. John the Baptist's witness to Israel finds its initial response in the confession of Nathanael, a true Israelite, when Nathanael confesses Jesus to be the Son of God, the King of Israel. Nathanael stands in marked contrast to Nicodemus, a teacher of Israel who is unable to understand earthly things, let alone heavenly things. So the first three chapters are characterized by a concern with the initial witness to Israel, and this motif now finds its fullness in this crowd's acclamation of Jesus as the King of Israel. Jesus is indeed King of Israel, and this motif now comes to the fore as the story nears its end). His kingdom, however, far transcends Israel's boundaries. "What honor was it to the Lord to be King of Israel? What great thing was it to the King of eternity to become the King of men?"

The crowd is probably not aware that the line they have added to the acclamation is an echo of another passage that further contributes to the depth of revelation concerning Jesus in this story: "The Lord, the King of Israel, is with you; never again will you fear any harm"
 
John 12:13 :disbelief:
They took palm branches and went out to meet him, shouting, “Hosanna! “Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord! “Blessed is the king of Israel!”

John 1:49 :disbelief:
Then Nathanael declared, "Rabbi, you are the Son of God; you are the King of Israel."

Jesus Enters Jerusalem as King of Israel :disbelief:
John 12 Commentary - Jesus Enters Jerusalem as King of Israel - BibleGateway.com
Jesus' entry into Jerusalem is very dramatic. Passover was one of the three feasts that Jews were supposed to attend in Jerusalem, and consequently the population of Jerusalem swelled enormously at this time. As this great crowd is beginning to gather from around Israel and the larger world of the diaspora, news about Jesus is spreading, and people are wondering whether he will come to the feast. On Sunday, the day after the party in Bethany at which Mary anointed Jesus, news arrives that Jesus is on his way to Jerusalem, and a crowd of pilgrims, presumably those who had been wondering if he would come, goes out to meet him. Mary's private expression of emotion is now matched by the crowd's public outpouring of enthusiasm.

They shout Hosanna! Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!. These are lines from one of the Psalms of Ascents sung as a welcome to pilgrims coming up to Jerusalem. As such, this is an entirely appropriate thing to do as Jesus is coming up to Jerusalem. But there is more involved here. The cry of Hosanna! is a Hebrew word (hoshi`ah-na) that had become a greeting or shout of praise but that actually meant "Save!" or "Help!" (an intensive form of imperative). Not surprisingly, forms of this word were used to address the king with a need. Furthermore, the palm branches the people carry are symbolic of a victorious ruler Indeed, in an apocalyptic text from the Maccabean era, palms are mentioned in association with the coming of the messianic salvation on the Mount of Olives. The cry of Hosanna! and the palm branches are in themselves somewhat ambiguous, but their import is made clear as the crowd adds a further line, Blessed is the King of Israel!. Clearly they see in Jesus the answer to their nationalistic, messianic hopes. Earlier a crowd had wanted to make Jesus king, and now this crowd is recognizing him as king in the city of the great King. Here is the great dream of a Davidic ruler who would come and liberate Israel, establishing peace and subduing the Gentiles.

The crowd, in their messianic, nationalistic fervor, adds another line not found in the Psalm of Ascent: Blessed is the King of Israel! . This acclamation ties together the whole of Jesus' ministry up to this point, signaled by the word Israel. Apart from this verse, the words Israel and Israelite occur only in the first three chapters. John the Baptist's witness to Israel finds its initial response in the confession of Nathanael, a true Israelite, when Nathanael confesses Jesus to be the Son of God, the King of Israel. Nathanael stands in marked contrast to Nicodemus, a teacher of Israel who is unable to understand earthly things, let alone heavenly things. So the first three chapters are characterized by a concern with the initial witness to Israel, and this motif now finds its fullness in this crowd's acclamation of Jesus as the King of Israel. Jesus is indeed King of Israel, and this motif now comes to the fore as the story nears its end). His kingdom, however, far transcends Israel's boundaries. "What honor was it to the Lord to be King of Israel? What great thing was it to the King of eternity to become the King of men?"

The crowd is probably not aware that the line they have added to the acclamation is an echo of another passage that further contributes to the depth of revelation concerning Jesus in this story: "The Lord, the King of Israel, is with you; never again will you fear any harm"
Believe it or not, Mohammad was a Zionist, and the Koran is also a Zionist text. Any Muslim that is anti Israel is in actuality going against his / her own religion.

The Qur'an and the Land of Israel

THE QUR'AN SAYS:

"To Moses We [Allah] gave nine clear signs. Ask the Israelites how he [Moses] first appeared amongst them. Pharoah said to him: 'Moses, I can see that you are bewitched.' 'You know full well,' he [Moses] replied, 'that none but the Lord of the heavens and the earth has revealed these visible signs. Pharoah, you are doomed.'"

"Pharoah sought to scare them [the Israelites] out of the land [of Israel]: but We [Allah] drowned him [Pharoah] together with all who were with him. Then We [Allah] said to the Israelites: 'Dwell in this land [the Land of Israel]. When the promise of the hereafter [End of Days] comes to be fulfilled, We [Allah] shall assemble you [the Israelites] all together [in the Land of Israel]."

"We [Allah] have revealed the Qur'an with the truth, and with the truth it has come down. We have sent you [Muhammed] forth only to proclaim good news and to give warning."

[Qur'an, "Night Journey," chapter 17:100-104]

"And [remember] when Moses said to his people: 'O my people, call in remembrance the favour of God unto you, when he produced prophets among you, made you kings, and gave to you what He had not given to any other among the peoples. O my people, enter the Holy Land which God has assigned unto you, and turn not back ignominiously, for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin.'" [Qur'an 5:20-21]

Moreover - and those who try to use Islam as a weapon against Israel always conveniently ignore this point - the Holy Qur'an explicitly refers to the return of the Jews to the Land of Israel before the Last Judgment - where it says: "And thereafter We [Allah] said to the Children of Israel: 'Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd.'" [Qur'an 17:104]
 
I thought Jesus was Palestinian or Lebanese or something?
If he was Palestinian wouldn't he look more like this?

jesus_stallone.gif
 
I thought Jesus was Palestinian or Lebanese or something?
If he was Palestinian wouldn't he look more like this?

jesus_stallone.gif

Didn't Yasser Arafat say Jesus was a Palestinian Muslim?
Yasser said a lot of things to fill up his personal bank accounts in Europe. In the end when he died his wife took off to France with the billions of stolen money. Funny thing is she won't set foot in "Palestine" and won't send one dime to help the poor "suffering" Palestinians either. Maybe she knows the whole Palestinian thing was a racket with money going to thugs who are going to sacrifice their own brainwashed people into killing themselves to keep filling up their own pocket books and the croonies that are financing this racket. In other words, the more things change, the more they stay the same.
 
If he was Palestinian wouldn't he look more like this?

jesus_stallone.gif

Didn't Yasser Arafat say Jesus was a Palestinian Muslim?
Yasser said a lot of things to fill up his personal bank accounts in Europe. In the end when he died his wife took off to France with the billions of stolen money. Funny thing is she won't set foot in "Palestine" and won't send one dime to help the poor "suffering" Palestinians either. Maybe she knows the whole Palestinian thing was a racket with money going to thugs who are going to sacrifice their own brainwashed people into killing themselves to keep filling up their own pocket books and the croonies that are financing this racket. In other words, the more things change, the more they stay the same.

I agree, you pretty much nailed it.
 
the cronies that are financing this racket would be..... da joos
 
the cronies that are financing this racket would be..... da joos

It's a pretty well established fact that Suha Arafat, the wife of the founder of the Palestinian movement is sitting on billions of dollars of stolen money that was sent to the Palestinian people, and that she refuses to set foot into Palestine nor will she entertain sending even a dime to these same poor suffering people we keep hearing about about. What does that tell you when the wife of the founder of a movement refuses to set foot or help said people. Yup, it's a racket by any definition of the word. And it's still going on now. Except instead of Arafat you have Hamas and Abbas (Fatah) doing all the stealing and deception now.
 
who sent money, and why?
The Arabs / Muslims like Sadam, Saudis, Syria, Iran would send the money to Arafat's personal accounts, in return Arafat would call for Jihad, death to the Jews and more suicide bombers. His wife is hiding in France with all the stolen money. The same is happening now, instead of Arafat it's Hamas, Hezbollah, and Fatah.
 
Allah is an occupier, too! Allahu Akbar! :bow3:

Quran 5:20-21: Remember Moses said to his people: 'O my people! Recall in remembrance the favor of Allah unto you, when He produced prophets among you, made you kings, and gave you what He had not given to any other among the peoples. O my people! Enter the holy land which Allah hath assigned unto you, and turn not back ignominiously, for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin.

Quran 17:104 And We said to the Children of Israel after him: "Dwell in the land, then, when the final and the last promise comes near [i.e. the Day of Resurrection or the descent of Christ ['Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) on the earth]. We shall bring you altogether as mixed crowd

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxAKFlpdcfc]Applause - YouTube[/ame]
 

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