JEEP...So Just Who in Hell IS/WAS Lying here?

[TNHarley]

Hate America! Way to go asshole

Not even a nice try dumbass.

Jeep does not equal America.
Unions do not equal America.
Poorly made pieces of expensive junk certainly don't equal America.

You fail.......again.

Union jobs are American jobs.

Chrysler is an American Auto Company[/QUOTE

Chrysler is made in America. However, it is an Italian company now.

 

[konradv]

Fiat said it. They are part owners of Jeep and own Chrysler and Dodge. Romney saw that and capitalized on it. I dont get how he is still being considered lying on this, but the goddamn owners said they were moving.. Hmmmm

They didn't say they were moving; they said they'd ramp up in China. That doesn't mean moving jobs to China. American jobs making Jeeps for Americans would stay here. The lie was that we'd be losing jobs. They understand that in OH and MI, so Mitt can kiss those states good-bye.

 

[Sarah G]

Sure the hell was NOT Romney.

Fiat Says Jeep Output May Return to China as Demand Rises - Bloomberg

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Fiat Says Jeep Output May Return to China as Demand Rises
By Craig Trudell - Oct 22, 2012 10:10 AM CT

Fiat SpA (F), majority owner of Chrysler Group LLC, plans to return Jeep output to China and may eventually make all of its models in that country, according to the head of both automakers’ operations in the region.

Fiat is in “very detailed conversations” with its Chinese partner, Guangzhou Automobile Group Co. (2238), about making Jeeps in the world’s largest auto market, said Mike Manley, chief operating officer of Fiat and Chrysler in Asia. Chrysler hasn’t built Jeeps there since before Fiat took control in 2009.
Enlarge image Fiat Says China May Build All Jeep Models as SUV Demand Climbs

The bodies of 2012 Jeep Compass and 2012 Jeep Patriot sports utility vechicles (SUV) move along the assembly line at the Chrysler Group LLC assembly plant in Belvidere, Illinois. Photographer: Daniel Acker/Bloomberg

“The volume opportunity for us is very significant,” Manley, who is also president of the Jeep brand, said in an interview at Chrysler’s Auburn Hills, Michigan, headquarters. “We’re reviewing the opportunities within existing capacity” as well as “should we be localizing the entire Jeep portfolio or some of the Jeep portfolio.”

Romney was lying or worse yet, he didn't understand what was happening. He said Jeep was moving production to China. That is not the case.

 

[Dick Tuck]

4 Pinocchios for Mitt Romney’s misleading ad on Chrysler and China - The Washington Post

This ad shows that we have entered the final, desperate week of the campaign.
The series of statements in the ad individually may be technically correct, but the overall message of the ad is clearly misleading — especially since it appears to have been designed to piggyback off of Romney’s gross misstatement that Chrysler was moving Ohio factory jobs to China.
It is also especially strange that the ad touts Romney’s endorsement by the Detroit News, when the editorial actually backs up Obama’s criticism of Romney’s response to the auto industry crisis.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Not even a nice try dumbass.

Jeep does not equal America.
Unions do not equal America.
Poorly made pieces of expensive junk certainly don't equal America.

You fail.......again.

Union jobs are American jobs.

Chrysler is an American Auto Company

Chrysler is made in America. However, it is an Italian company now.

I guess you think the USA is owned by China and that makes the USA, Chinese? Maybe Chrysler is a Chinese company in more ways than one?

Italian Fiat SpA (F), majority owner of Chrysler, is in discussions with its Chinese partner, Guangzhou Automobile Group Co. (2238), to make Jeeps in China.

Forbes' rules don’t allow for foreign-owned companies to be on their list of America’s largest private companies.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andream...-chrysler-remain-an-american-private-company/

 

[TNHarley]

Fiat said it. They are part owners of Jeep and own Chrysler and Dodge. Romney saw that and capitalized on it. I dont get how he is still being considered lying on this, but the goddamn owners said they were moving.. Hmmmm

They didn't say they were moving; they said they'd ramp up in China. That doesn't mean moving jobs to China. American jobs making Jeeps for Americans would stay here. The lie was that we'd be losing jobs. They understand that in OH and MI, so Mitt can kiss those states good-bye.

plans to return Jeep output to China and may eventually make all of its models in that country, according to the head of both automakers’ operations in the region.

Maybe I dont understand English, but it sounds like we will be losing jobs. Which is the point.

 

[Politico]

No one is lying.

 

[TNHarley]

Union jobs are American jobs.

Chrysler is an American Auto Company

Chrysler is made in America. However, it is an Italian company now.

I guess you think the USA is owned by China and that makes the USA, Chinese? Maybe Chrysler is a Chinese company in more ways than one?

Italian Fiat SpA (F), majority owner of Chrysler, is in discussions with its Chinese partner, Guangzhou Automobile Group Co. (2238), to make Jeeps in China.

They are owned by Italians. It started here in America, but got bought out I reckon. There is a difference between owning something and owing someone.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

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Maybe I dont understand English...

I'd say it isn't only English you struggle with

 

[NYcarbineer]

Sure the hell was NOT Romney.

Fiat Says Jeep Output May Return to China as Demand Rises - Bloomberg

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Fiat Says Jeep Output May Return to China as Demand Rises
By Craig Trudell - Oct 22, 2012 10:10 AM CT

Fiat SpA (F), majority owner of Chrysler Group LLC, plans to return Jeep output to China and may eventually make all of its models in that country, according to the head of both automakers’ operations in the region.

Fiat is in “very detailed conversations” with its Chinese partner, Guangzhou Automobile Group Co. (2238), about making Jeeps in the world’s largest auto market, said Mike Manley, chief operating officer of Fiat and Chrysler in Asia. Chrysler hasn’t built Jeeps there since before Fiat took control in 2009.
Enlarge image Fiat Says China May Build All Jeep Models as SUV Demand Climbs

The bodies of 2012 Jeep Compass and 2012 Jeep Patriot sports utility vechicles (SUV) move along the assembly line at the Chrysler Group LLC assembly plant in Belvidere, Illinois. Photographer: Daniel Acker/Bloomberg

“The volume opportunity for us is very significant,” Manley, who is also president of the Jeep brand, said in an interview at Chrysler’s Auburn Hills, Michigan, headquarters. “We’re reviewing the opportunities within existing capacity” as well as “should we be localizing the entire Jeep portfolio or some of the Jeep portfolio.”

Why didn't you quote this line from the article?

Manley referred to adding Jeep production sites rather than shifting output from North America to China.

Eh? Can't you read??

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Chrysler is made in America. However, it is an Italian company now.

I guess you think the USA is owned by China and that makes the USA, Chinese? Maybe Chrysler is a Chinese company in more ways than one?

Italian Fiat SpA (F), majority owner of Chrysler, is in discussions with its Chinese partner, Guangzhou Automobile Group Co. (2238), to make Jeeps in China.

They are owned by Italians. It started here in America, but got bought out I reckon. There is a difference between owning something and owing someone.

Corporate structure. Ownership rules. Majority owners have minority partners too.

So you are saying Chrysler is a Chinese company?

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Maybe I dont understand English...

I'd say it isn't only English you struggle with

what is Chrysler Group LLC? does it exist?

 

[Conservative]

Sure the hell was NOT Romney.

Fiat Says Jeep Output May Return to China as Demand Rises - Bloomberg

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Fiat Says Jeep Output May Return to China as Demand Rises
By Craig Trudell - Oct 22, 2012 10:10 AM CT

Fiat SpA (F), majority owner of Chrysler Group LLC, plans to return Jeep output to China and may eventually make all of its models in that country, according to the head of both automakers’ operations in the region.

Fiat is in “very detailed conversations” with its Chinese partner, Guangzhou Automobile Group Co. (2238), about making Jeeps in the world’s largest auto market, said Mike Manley, chief operating officer of Fiat and Chrysler in Asia. Chrysler hasn’t built Jeeps there since before Fiat took control in 2009.
Enlarge image Fiat Says China May Build All Jeep Models as SUV Demand Climbs

The bodies of 2012 Jeep Compass and 2012 Jeep Patriot sports utility vechicles (SUV) move along the assembly line at the Chrysler Group LLC assembly plant in Belvidere, Illinois. Photographer: Daniel Acker/Bloomberg

“The volume opportunity for us is very significant,” Manley, who is also president of the Jeep brand, said in an interview at Chrysler’s Auburn Hills, Michigan, headquarters. “We’re reviewing the opportunities within existing capacity” as well as “should we be localizing the entire Jeep portfolio or some of the Jeep portfolio.”

Why didn't you quote this line from the article?

Manley referred to adding Jeep production sites rather than shifting output from North America to China.

Eh? Can't you read??

can't you?

“The volume opportunity for us is very significant,” Manley, who is also president of the Jeep brand, said in an interview at Chrysler’s Auburn Hills, Michigan, headquarters. “We’re reviewing the opportunities within existing capacity” as well as “should we be localizing the entire Jeep portfolio or some of the Jeep portfolio.”

 

[NYcarbineer]

Fiat said it. They are part owners of Jeep and own Chrysler and Dodge. Romney saw that and capitalized on it. I dont get how he is still being considered lying on this, but the goddamn owners said they were moving.. Hmmmm

They didn't say they were moving; they said they'd ramp up in China. That doesn't mean moving jobs to China. American jobs making Jeeps for Americans would stay here. The lie was that we'd be losing jobs. They understand that in OH and MI, so Mitt can kiss those states good-bye.

plans to return Jeep output to China and may eventually make all of its models in that country, according to the head of both automakers’ operations in the region.

Maybe I dont understand English, but it sounds like we will be losing jobs. Which is the point.

On the same day Romney first lied, Chrysler announced it was adding 1100 jobs and a third shift at its plant in Illinois.

"Localizing" is the word everyone seems to ignore or not understand. Jeep is going to build Jeeps in China to sell in China.

The same way Toyota builds trucks in the US to sell in the US.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Sure the hell was NOT Romney.

Fiat Says Jeep Output May Return to China as Demand Rises - Bloomberg

EXCERPT...


Fiat Says Jeep Output May Return to China as Demand Rises
By Craig Trudell - Oct 22, 2012 10:10 AM CT

Fiat SpA (F), majority owner of Chrysler Group LLC, plans to return Jeep output to China and may eventually make all of its models in that country, according to the head of both automakers’ operations in the region.

Fiat is in “very detailed conversations” with its Chinese partner, Guangzhou Automobile Group Co. (2238), about making Jeeps in the world’s largest auto market, said Mike Manley, chief operating officer of Fiat and Chrysler in Asia. Chrysler hasn’t built Jeeps there since before Fiat took control in 2009.
Enlarge image Fiat Says China May Build All Jeep Models as SUV Demand Climbs

The bodies of 2012 Jeep Compass and 2012 Jeep Patriot sports utility vechicles (SUV) move along the assembly line at the Chrysler Group LLC assembly plant in Belvidere, Illinois. Photographer: Daniel Acker/Bloomberg

“The volume opportunity for us is very significant,” Manley, who is also president of the Jeep brand, said in an interview at Chrysler’s Auburn Hills, Michigan, headquarters. “We’re reviewing the opportunities within existing capacity” as well as “should we be localizing the entire Jeep portfolio or some of the Jeep portfolio.”

Why didn't you quote this line from the article?

Manley referred to adding Jeep production sites rather than shifting output from North America to China.

Eh? Can't you read??

can't you?

“The volume opportunity for us is very significant,” Manley, who is also president of the Jeep brand, said in an interview at Chrysler’s Auburn Hills, Michigan, headquarters. “We’re reviewing the opportunities within existing capacity” as well as “should we be localizing the entire Jeep portfolio or some of the Jeep portfolio.”

Yeah, it means that they want to sell Jeeps in China so they'll either export them to China, or make them over there to sell locally,

or both.

Learn to read.

 

[Plasmaball]

So, Jeeps might be made in China?

Well maybe then they'll be worth buying, instead of the shabby workmanship that fuckwad union morons do.

how anti-American of you. Feel free to book a flight and leave.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Sure the hell was NOT Romney.

Fiat Says Jeep Output May Return to China as Demand Rises - Bloomberg

EXCERPT...


Fiat Says Jeep Output May Return to China as Demand Rises
By Craig Trudell - Oct 22, 2012 10:10 AM CT

Fiat SpA (F), majority owner of Chrysler Group LLC, plans to return Jeep output to China and may eventually make all of its models in that country, according to the head of both automakers’ operations in the region.

Fiat is in “very detailed conversations” with its Chinese partner, Guangzhou Automobile Group Co. (2238), about making Jeeps in the world’s largest auto market, said Mike Manley, chief operating officer of Fiat and Chrysler in Asia. Chrysler hasn’t built Jeeps there since before Fiat took control in 2009.
Enlarge image Fiat Says China May Build All Jeep Models as SUV Demand Climbs

The bodies of 2012 Jeep Compass and 2012 Jeep Patriot sports utility vechicles (SUV) move along the assembly line at the Chrysler Group LLC assembly plant in Belvidere, Illinois. Photographer: Daniel Acker/Bloomberg

“The volume opportunity for us is very significant,” Manley, who is also president of the Jeep brand, said in an interview at Chrysler’s Auburn Hills, Michigan, headquarters. “We’re reviewing the opportunities within existing capacity” as well as “should we be localizing the entire Jeep portfolio or some of the Jeep portfolio.”

Why didn't you quote this line from the article?

Manley referred to adding Jeep production sites rather than shifting output from North America to China.

Eh? Can't you read??

can't you?

“The volume opportunity for us is very significant,” Manley, who is also president of the Jeep brand, said in an interview at Chrysler’s Auburn Hills, Michigan, headquarters. “We’re reviewing the opportunities within existing capacity” as well as “should we be localizing the entire Jeep portfolio or some of the Jeep portfolio.”

Emphasis mine.

 

[NYcarbineer]

No wonder my girlfriend calls this place a psych ward.

You have irrefutable facts in plain English and the 'nuts will not accept them.

 

[NYcarbineer]

"localizing the entire Jeep portfolio"


That does not mean moving all Jeep manufacturing to China. It means starting additional production of all Jeep models in China to sell in China.

 

[Plasmaball]

So, Jeeps might be made in China?

Well maybe then they'll be worth buying, instead of the shabby workmanship that fuckwad union morons do.

Hate America! Way to go asshole

Not even a nice try dumbass.

Jeep does not equal America.
Unions do not equal America.
Poorly made pieces of expensive junk certainly don't equal America.

You fail.......again.

you are anti-American scum.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

I guess you think the USA is owned by China and that makes the USA, Chinese? Maybe Chrysler is a Chinese company in more ways than one?

Italian Fiat SpA (F), majority owner of Chrysler, is in discussions with its Chinese partner, Guangzhou Automobile Group Co. (2238), to make Jeeps in China.

They are owned by Italians. It started here in America, but got bought out I reckon. There is a difference between owning something and owing someone.

Corporate structure. Ownership rules. Majority owners have minority partners too.

So you are saying Chrysler is a Chinese company?

[

Maybe I dont understand English...

I'd say it isn't only English you struggle with

what is Chrysler Group LLC? does it exist?

http://www.chryslergroupllc.com/company/Pages/AboutUs.aspx

When Rupert Murdoch Owned American Media Companies in America, before he became a US citizen, were those American Companies? And did all of Rupert Murdoch's companies become American companies after he became an American?