Jeep is bought by Italians, ships jobs to China..........

[LadyGunSlinger]

The Zombies have been given their walking orders to try and cover up this AUTO BAIL OUT FIASCO by their messiah.. WON'T WORK

The whole auto industry bailout process was rushed through with the wrong primary motivation of protecting the politically powerful UAW's interests. The Obama Administration never considered that giving Chrysler to Fiat was not a great idea and could eventually hurt the same UAW workers it was trying to protect. Manufacturers like Chrysler and GM are at a competitive disadvantage due to UAW obligations that were not properly addressed in the bankruptcy process. The industry is more competitive than ever and the government does not seem to be the best innovators to lead the sector to real health. This truth is very likely to become more apparent when the political season ends.

AUTO BAILOUT BOMBSHELL: Fiat Says Chrysler, Jeep Production May Move to Italy | National Legal and Policy Center

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Romney said that he read an an article in Bloomberg that Jeep was moving production to China. If it is a lie it isn't his lie, he correctly attributed the statement to an article in Bloomberg.

Either Jeep is moving, or it isn't. Jeep reported that it was moving, then under some democrat pressure the CEO comes out and says it isn't true. Either the initial report was right, or the CEO was right. It's not like CEOs haven't made untrue, but politically motivated, statements in the past.

The Human Pretzel speaks.

Notice how he/she/it ignores the FACT that Mittens LIED when he said, in his ad, that "Obama sold Chrysler to Italy".

 

[4Horsemen]

You don't even attempt to deny the LIES told by Mittwitt about JEEP moving jobs to CHINA...which is NOT HAPPENING.....Mittwitt LIED and YOU BELEIVE THE LIES!!!

Even if Jeep moved to Picayune, Mississippi they would be moving to China, genius.

China owns 30% America as we speak. So if Mitt makes a boo boo it doesn't matter. this country is bought and paid for by China in the long run so grab your Samsung phone and call your Lexus dealer and tell them you want a PS3 installed in the car with Mitsubishi flatscreens in it while you get dressed with your Nikes on your feet and headed to the gotdamn Sushi bar for lunch before heading to the gun range to shoot your new hollow points made in China.

 

[CMike]

We don't create military industrial jobs to have make work programs. We create military industrial jobs to provide for the national defense. Jobs that produce are born in the private sector. To do that we need stability in taxes and regulations. We don't have either today.

So, as our Government tightens it's belt to keep from growing the deficit, doesn't it make sense that ALL agencies make cuts? Why are the Romney ads saying that Obama wants to cut 200,000 jobs here in VA? Sequestration was approved by the GOP?

Who's president? Who controls the senate?

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

Libruls think all Americans are too stoooopid to know the truth. Obamessiah was again F*CKED* up and it's costing you and I, the taxpayer.. If we added up all the Solyndra's, etc.. This dipshit President would owe Americans hundreds of BILLIONS of dollars.

We'll see many more lies coming to the forefront AFTER this election is over. Dumbo the Assclown is doing everything in his power to hide all of his scandals, lies.. His Zombies as well.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Romney said that he read an an article in Bloomberg that Jeep was moving production to China. If it is a lie it isn't his lie, he correctly attributed the statement to an article in Bloomberg.

Either Jeep is moving, or it isn't. Jeep reported that it was moving, then under some democrat pressure the CEO comes out and says it isn't true. Either the initial report was right, or the CEO was right. It's not like CEOs haven't made untrue, but politically motivated, statements in the past.

The CEO never said Jeep was moving. This line is directly from the Bloomberg article you're referring to:

Manley referred to adding Jeep production sites rather than shifting output from North America to China.

Now, you tell us how Romney was not lying about what he read if he read that.

Or shut up.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

We don't create military industrial jobs to have make work programs. We create military industrial jobs to provide for the national defense. Jobs that produce are born in the private sector. To do that we need stability in taxes and regulations. We don't have either today.

So, as our Government tightens it's belt to keep from growing the deficit, doesn't it make sense that ALL agencies make cuts? Why are the Romney ads saying that Obama wants to cut 200,000 jobs here in VA? Sequestration was approved by the GOP?

Who's president? Who controls the senate?

If, GAWD FORBID!, Mittens is elected, you will suddenly know that the president does not control senate OR the house.

LOL

And, if Obama had accused R of "selling Chrysler to Italy", all you rw's be running around, screaming your heads off.

But, according to rw's any and all lies from Mitt are just fine.

 

[VaYank5150]

We don't create military industrial jobs to have make work programs. We create military industrial jobs to provide for the national defense. Jobs that produce are born in the private sector. To do that we need stability in taxes and regulations. We don't have either today.

So, as our Government tightens it's belt to keep from growing the deficit, doesn't it make sense that ALL agencies make cuts? Why are the Romney ads saying that Obama wants to cut 200,000 jobs here in VA? Sequestration was approved by the GOP?

Who's president? Who controls the senate?

You DO realize that we have three (3) separate branches of government, right? Our founding fathers set it up that way on purpose so that none of the three could "control" any of the other three. You DO realize you are in a POLITICS messgae board, right?

 

[Seawytch]

So, they're taking what could have been new jobs for US workers and creating them in China instead? How is that any better?

Why do you hate the free market? It makes business sense to make the cars in China that are being sold TO THE CHINESE. Do you know what China's import tariffs are?

I'll be sure to point to your post the next time a lib screams about republican politicians (and evil corporations) supposedly shipping US jobs overseas and ask them if they hate the free market. Classic.

That's the point you're missing...or believing the lies about. They aren't moving jobs overseas, they are expanding their market to the Chinese. They are still making cars for the US in the US.

 

[Seawytch]

link?

http://www.13abc.com/story/19917498/...-affect-toledo

Right now, all Jeeps are built in Ohio, Michigan and Illinois. The iconic Wrangler is made here in Toledo, and a brand new Jeep SUV is set to roll of the lines at the Toledo Assembly Complex next year.

The spokesperson says any production that may happen in China will not affect production or the workforce here in Toledo.

A Chrysler statement says, "Should we produce Jeep vehicles in China, those vehicles would be to meet local market demand in order to avoid high import duties and tariffs."

Chrysler CEO Sergio Marchionne has said a number of times he is committed to the Toledo workforce and growing operations here.

Chrysler sent a statement about the Bloomberg article saying, "Bloomberg recently produced a story that led some to incorrectly believe that all Jeep production could shift to China from North America. That is not true, and Bloomberg quickly amended its story to eliminate any potential inaccurate perception. To be clear, Jeep has no intention of shifting production of its Jeep models out of North America to China".

Building Jeeps in China is nothing new. When Chrysler bought American Motors in 1987 it also took over control of Beijing Jeep. They stopped building Jeeps in China when Daimler sold Chrysler to Cerberus in 2007.

Anyone ever notice how the Zombie left always DEMAND links from MAJOR news outlets but when they post their propaganda, THEY NEVER use any link from the same type of news organization???

He linked to ABC and I linked to Chrysler itself. What fucking more do you need?

 

[SniperFire]

Us Ohioans are pissed to no end at this betrayal.

We will make Obama pay at the ballot box.

 

[Vel]

http://www.13abc.com/story/19917498/potential-jeep-production-in-china-will-not-affect-toledo

Right now, all Jeeps are built in Ohio, Michigan and Illinois. The iconic Wrangler is made here in Toledo, and a brand new Jeep SUV is set to roll of the lines at the Toledo Assembly Complex next year.

The spokesperson says any production that may happen in China will not affect production or the workforce here in Toledo.

A Chrysler statement says, "Should we produce Jeep vehicles in China, those vehicles would be to meet local market demand in order to avoid high import duties and tariffs."

Chrysler CEO Sergio Marchionne has said a number of times he is committed to the Toledo workforce and growing operations here.

Chrysler sent a statement about the Bloomberg article saying, "Bloomberg recently produced a story that led some to incorrectly believe that all Jeep production could shift to China from North America. That is not true, and Bloomberg quickly amended its story to eliminate any potential inaccurate perception. To be clear, Jeep has no intention of shifting production of its Jeep models out of North America to China".

Building Jeeps in China is nothing new. When Chrysler bought American Motors in 1987 it also took over control of Beijing Jeep. They stopped building Jeeps in China when Daimler sold Chrysler to Cerberus in 2007.

So if right now ALL Jeeps are built in the U.S, then the ones currently being sold in China must be exported from here. What will happen to U.S. Jeep production when there is no need to export to China? Do you think they will need to build fewer Jeeps in the U.S.?

 

[The Infidel]

SNIP:
Jeep, an Obama favorite, looks to shift production to China

October 25, 2012 | 1:19 pm
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Paul Bedard

Washington Secrets
The Washington Examiner
E@SecretsBedard

Jeep Wrangler behind the president as seen in his new second term agenda binder.
In another potential blow for the president's Ohio reelection campaign, Jeep, the rugged brand President Obama once said symbolized American freedom, is considering giving up on the United States and shifting production to China.

Such a move would crash the economy in towns like Toledo, Ohio, where Jeeps are made and supplied, and rob the community of the economic security they thought Obama's auto bailout assured them.

Obama is such a fan of Jeep that he included a picture of himself speaking at the Toledo plant in his newly released second term agenda binder. In his address to the plant in 2011, Obama said, "I just took a short tour of the plant and watched some of you putting the finishing touches on the Wrangler. Now, as somebody reminded, I need to call it the 'iconic' Wrangler. And that's appropriate because when you think about what Wrangler has always symbolized. It symbolized freedom, adventure, hitting the open road, never looking back."

Well it appears that the taxpayer bailed-out Chrysler is looking back and now considering cutting costs by shifting production of all Jeeps to China, which has a strong desire for Jeeps.

In a Bloomberg interview, Jeep's president said the automaker plans to restore Jeep production in China, suspended in 2009, and is considering making all Jeeps in China. "Fiat SpA, majority owner of Chrysler Group LLC, plans to return Jeep output to China and may eventually make all of its models in that country, according to the head of both automakers' operations in the region," reported the business wire service.

all of it here
Jeep, an Obama favorite, looks to shift production to China | WashingtonExaminer.com

You're an idiot. This has already been proven to be a lie. If you had bothered to read the source of the above story, which was linked in the story, you'd have seen this:

Manley referred to adding Jeep production sites rather than shifting output from North America to China.

Do you need that explained to you? Are you that stupid?

So, they're taking what could have been new jobs for US workers and creating them in China instead? How is that any better?

See....?
First we were all liars, now we hear it isn't that bad.... They were going to be sold there so who cares?

You libtards are such liars..

 

[The Infidel]

http://www.13abc.com/story/19917498/potential-jeep-production-in-china-will-not-affect-toledo

Right now, all Jeeps are built in Ohio, Michigan and Illinois. The iconic Wrangler is made here in Toledo, and a brand new Jeep SUV is set to roll of the lines at the Toledo Assembly Complex next year.

The spokesperson says any production that may happen in China will not affect production or the workforce here in Toledo.

A Chrysler statement says, "Should we produce Jeep vehicles in China, those vehicles would be to meet local market demand in order to avoid high import duties and tariffs."

Chrysler CEO Sergio Marchionne has said a number of times he is committed to the Toledo workforce and growing operations here.

Chrysler sent a statement about the Bloomberg article saying, "Bloomberg recently produced a story that led some to incorrectly believe that all Jeep production could shift to China from North America. That is not true, and Bloomberg quickly amended its story to eliminate any potential inaccurate perception. To be clear, Jeep has no intention of shifting production of its Jeep models out of North America to China".

Building Jeeps in China is nothing new. When Chrysler bought American Motors in 1987 it also took over control of Beijing Jeep. They stopped building Jeeps in China when Daimler sold Chrysler to Cerberus in 2007.

So if right now ALL Jeeps are built in the U.S, then the ones currently being sold in China must be exported from here. What will happen to U.S. Jeep production when there is no need to export to China? Do you think they will need to build fewer Jeeps in the U.S.?

Oh stop being logical

 

[CMike]

Romney said that he read an an article in Bloomberg that Jeep was moving production to China. If it is a lie it isn't his lie, he correctly attributed the statement to an article in Bloomberg.

Either Jeep is moving, or it isn't. Jeep reported that it was moving, then under some democrat pressure the CEO comes out and says it isn't true. Either the initial report was right, or the CEO was right. It's not like CEOs haven't made untrue, but politically motivated, statements in the past.

The CEO never said Jeep was moving. This line is directly from the Bloomberg article you're referring to:

Manley referred to adding Jeep production sites rather than shifting output from North America to China.

Now, you tell us how Romney was not lying about what he read if he read that.

Or shut up.

This is the article that Romne was referring too clueless one.

Business: Washington Post Business Page, Business News

[SIZE="5"]Fiat Says China May Build All Jeeps as SUV Demand Increases[/SIZE]

Craig TrudellOct 22, 2012 11:10 am ET


(Updates with Jeep production sites in fifth paragraph.)

Oct. 22 (Bloomberg) -- Fiat SpA, majority owner of Chrysler Group LLC, plans to return Jeep output to China and may eventually make all of its models in that country, according to the head of both automakers’ operations in the region.

Fiat is in “very detailed conversations” with its Chinese partner, Guangzhou Automobile Group Co., about making Jeeps in the world’s largest auto market, said Mike Manley, chief operating officer of Fiat and Chrysler in Asia. Chrysler hasn’t built Jeeps there since before Fiat took control in 2009.

“The volume opportunity for us is very significant,” Manley, who is also president of the Jeep brand, said in an interview at Chrysler’s Auburn Hills, Michigan, headquarters. “We’re reviewing the opportunities within existing capacity” as well as “should we be localizing the entire Jeep portfolio or some of the Jeep portfolio.”

Chrysler, which entered an alliance with Turin, Italy-based Fiat as part of its U.S. government-backed bankruptcy, is relying on growth in China to counter weakness in Europe’s auto market. The automaker is targeting 500,000 annual sales outside North America by 2014, more than triple its overseas deliveries in 2009.

Chrysler currently builds all Jeep SUV models at plants in Michigan, Illinois and Ohio. Manley referred to adding Jeep production sites rather than shifting output from North America to China.

Asia’s Strength

International sales for Chrysler climbed 22 percent to 153,154 this year through September, according to the company. The Jeep brand accounted for more than three of every four of those deliveries, with sales surging 54 percent to 117,189.

“We’ve grown much stronger in Asia to make up or compensate for some of the difficulties in Europe,” Manley said. Europe will be in “very difficult, tough times” through at least 2013, he said.

Boosted by strong demand for the Grand Cherokee and Compass sport-utility vehicles, Jeep sales in China have more than doubled to 33,463 this year through September. The brand topped total deliveries for all of 2011 by July of this year.

Chrysler’s 2014 international sales target is “certainly within reach,” Manley said. The European auto market is on track to plunge in 2012 by the most in 19 years, according to the European Automobile Manufacturers’ Association.

“Given what we see around the world, it is stretching for sure, but it’s not something we’ve given up on,” he said.

Fiat and Guangzhou’s plant in Changsha in central China has initial annual capacity of 140,000 cars and is capable of eventually assembling 500,000 vehicles per year. The automakers will add production of a new vehicle to the factory roughly every 12 months and began building the Fiat Viaggio compact there in June.

--Editors: Bill Koenig, John Lear

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Chrysler, GM Rebuke Mitt Romney Jeep Ad

In view of the evidence, how long will Mitt keep telling this lie?

 

[rdean]

Chrysler, GM Rebuke Mitt Romney Jeep Ad

In view of the evidence, how long will Mitt keep telling this lie?

As long as he wants too. The media has empowered him.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Mitt Romney Releases New Ad Repeating Debunked Claim About Jeep Jobs Going To China

More of the Romney Two Step

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Wow. Check this out. Mitt's lies are really getting desperate.

Romney Uses Debunked Story About Chrysler To Undermine Obama's Story On The Auto Industry Rescue | The New Republic

 

[ABikerSailor]

So, as our Government tightens it's belt to keep from growing the deficit, doesn't it make sense that ALL agencies make cuts? Why are the Romney ads saying that Obama wants to cut 200,000 jobs here in VA? Sequestration was approved by the GOP?

Who's president? Who controls the senate?

You DO realize that we have three (3) separate branches of government, right? Our founding fathers set it up that way on purpose so that none of the three could "control" any of the other three. You DO realize you are in a POLITICS messgae board, right?

If they don't realize that the Vice President controls the Senate (deciding vote in case of a tie) then obviously they flunked civics.