Jack Ruby invited FBI informant to 'watch the fireworks' at parade where JFK was killed

Total Bullshit
The shit is what followed when our history took a wrong turn down war road.

No idea what you are talking about
When they killed Kennedy, we went on a totally different course of history.
No we didn’t

JFK would have gotten us into Vietnam. So would any other President in 1964
We were already in Nam.
Sure were

We were not getting out
 
Everyone thought we could quickly end things in 1963
LBJ ran on not getting into war in 1964

But JFK had the same advisors in McNamara and Westmorland..... he would have followed the same path LBJ did
He also wanted to dismantle the CIA and the Federal Reserve bank, aggressively end secrecy in government, and to have a peaceful relationship with the Russians. And to his demise most likely, he was prepared to heed Ike's advice and put a leash on the Military Industrial Congressional Complex. Trillions at stake.
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One things for sure Ruby was at parkland after the shooting and that is 100% confirmed, and he was stalking Oswald several times that weekend in the police station waiting to blow him away. Watch some interviews with Robert Blakey who was in charge of the HSCA in the 1970's.....there were many connections to Ruby and organized crime.
 
One things for sure Ruby was at parkland after the shooting and that is 100% confirmed, and he was stalking Oswald several times that weekend in the police station waiting to blow him away. Watch some interviews with Robert Blakey who was in charge of the HSCA in the 1970's.....there were many connections to Ruby and organized crime.
Ruby stumbled into the police station minutes before they brought Oswald down

No premeditation
 
Everyone thought we could quickly end things in 1963
LBJ ran on not getting into war in 1964

But JFK had the same advisors in McNamara and Westmorland..... he would have followed the same path LBJ did
He also wanted to dismantle the CIA and the Federal Reserve bank, aggressively end secrecy in government, and to have a peaceful relationship with the Russians. And to his demise most likely, he was prepared to heed Ike's advice and put a leash on the Military Industrial Congressional Complex. Trillions at stake.
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you nailed it,could not have said it any better myself.:thup:
 

whats really interesting is that the CIA obviously sent a warning to carter that he was stepping on too many powerful toes as kennedy also did. Carter like CIA also tried to get rid of the CIA. He came in and hired Stansfield turner who replaced the evil George Bush and Turner immediately cleaned house by firing all CIA covert operaters. the sheep in america have been brainwahsed that Reagan was such a great man ignoring he was corrupt as far back as his days as an actor in Hollywood working for unamerican activities committe and had many actors blacklisted and ruined their acting careers.He was a criminal as far back as then.

Reagan got in and got the CIA back to is corrupt ways again firing Turner and bringing in willaim casey who got the CIA back to its corrupt ways again.. America is STILL paying for the corruption of Reagan today.

very interesting isnt it who the the two people are what their names were who tired to kill carter isnt it?

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In addition to the New York Times and Time Magazine reporting on this weird saga Newsweek also ran a story on it.

Newsweek
5/21/79


At first it seemed just a bum’s boozy fantasy. When a grubby transient named Raymond Lee Harvey was arrested 50 feet away from Jimmy Carter at a Los Angeles rally two weekends ago, he claimed to be part of a four-man conspiracy to assassinate Carter. Harvey carried only a blank-firing starter’s pistol, and the Secret Service said at the time that he had "all the characteristics of a derelict." But investigators found new evidence last week that supported Harvey’s story—including a shotgun case and ammunition in a nearby hotel room—and once again raised the specter of a Presidential assassination plot.

The case is as bizarre and confusing as it is potentially serious. One curious twist is the names of the principals. Raymond Lee Harvey,who was held on $50,000 bail last week on a charge of conspiring to kill the President, and Oswaldo Espinoza Ortiz, who was held on $100,000 bail as a material witness. References to Lee Harvey Oswald and the assassination of John F. Kennedy were unavoidable. Officials have also indicated that Harvey has a history of mental illness. Both Harvey and Espinoza now claim that Harvey was supposed to create a diversion by firing his starter’s pistol while two other men attempted to shoot Carter. But investigators say they have no clues to the whereabouts of the alleged accomplices and are not even certain of their identities. Accordingly, the authorities have been careful to stress their doubts about the case.



This was back in the days before cable TV News however all three networks reported this story at least once on their respective evening news broadcasts.

CBS News:

Headline: Carter Assassination Try

REPORTER: Walter Cronkite

CBS Evening News for Friday, May 11, 1979

ABC News:

Headline: Carter Assassination Attempt

REPORTER: Frank Reynolds

ABC Evening News for Friday, May 11, 1979

NBC News:

Headline: Carter / Assassination Plot

REPORTER: John Chancellor

NBC Evening News for Thursday, May 17, 1979

Three Australian Newspapers also reported on the story:

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This story seems to have vanished shortly after it was first reported. Was the combined name Lee Harvey Osvaldo just a very strange coincidence or was somebody trying to send a not so subtle message to President Carter. Jimmy Carter first shook things up by winning the Democratic Party Nomination because he was the ultimate outsider indeed once elected he even further rocked the boat because he was doing things very differently than previous administrations had which is something we all know doesn't appeal to well to the Washington insider establishment.

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President Carter with members of the ALLMAN BROTHERS BAND who were major donors to his campaign and they also played at his Inaugural Ball

I often think about how things would have been so much better for this country if Ronald Reagan had never been elected President. President Carter was a far better President than is often portrayed in the Media. He was a real Christian not a fake like these Religious Right bastards who have hijacked a religion to enforce their narrow minded hate-filled agenda down the rest of our fuckin throats. Jimmy Carter made human rights an issue during his presidency he also cut ties with several Right Wing military dictatorships who had committed horrible human rights abuses. He also had plans to scale down the War on Drugs and move towards legalizing Marijuana.

amen to that.:clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2:


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President Carter with Willie Nelson

According to Wikipedia Raymond Lee Harvey was sentenced to life in prison for his role in the plot to assassinate President Jimmy Carter but the fate of his partner Osvaldo Espinoza Ortiz was quite different because he was simply released due to lack of evidence and he has apparently disappeared from the face of the earth.

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President Carter with Andy Warhol
 

whats really interesting is that the CIA obviously sent a warning to carter that he was stepping on too many powerful toes as kennedy also did. Carter like CIA also tried to get rid of the CIA. He came in and hired Stansfield turner who replaced the evil George Bush and Turner immediately cleaned house by firing all CIA covert operaters. the sheep in america have been brainwahsed that Reagan was such a great man ignoring he was corrupt as far back as his days as an actor in Hollywood working for unamerican activities committe and had many actors blacklisted and ruined their acting careers.He was a criminal as far back as then.

Reagan got in and got the CIA back to is corrupt ways again firing Turner and bringing in willaim casey who got the CIA back to its corrupt ways again.. America is STILL paying for the corruption of Reagan today.

very interesting isnt it who the the two people are what their names were who tired to kill carter isnt it?

713921839_cf3ec23433_o.gif


In addition to the New York Times and Time Magazine reporting on this weird saga Newsweek also ran a story on it.

Newsweek
5/21/79


At first it seemed just a bum’s boozy fantasy. When a grubby transient named Raymond Lee Harvey was arrested 50 feet away from Jimmy Carter at a Los Angeles rally two weekends ago, he claimed to be part of a four-man conspiracy to assassinate Carter. Harvey carried only a blank-firing starter’s pistol, and the Secret Service said at the time that he had "all the characteristics of a derelict." But investigators found new evidence last week that supported Harvey’s story—including a shotgun case and ammunition in a nearby hotel room—and once again raised the specter of a Presidential assassination plot.

The case is as bizarre and confusing as it is potentially serious. One curious twist is the names of the principals. Raymond Lee Harvey,who was held on $50,000 bail last week on a charge of conspiring to kill the President, and Oswaldo Espinoza Ortiz, who was held on $100,000 bail as a material witness. References to Lee Harvey Oswald and the assassination of John F. Kennedy were unavoidable. Officials have also indicated that Harvey has a history of mental illness. Both Harvey and Espinoza now claim that Harvey was supposed to create a diversion by firing his starter’s pistol while two other men attempted to shoot Carter. But investigators say they have no clues to the whereabouts of the alleged accomplices and are not even certain of their identities. Accordingly, the authorities have been careful to stress their doubts about the case.



This was back in the days before cable TV News however all three networks reported this story at least once on their respective evening news broadcasts.

CBS News:

Headline: Carter Assassination Try

REPORTER: Walter Cronkite

CBS Evening News for Friday, May 11, 1979

ABC News:

Headline: Carter Assassination Attempt

REPORTER: Frank Reynolds

ABC Evening News for Friday, May 11, 1979

NBC News:

Headline: Carter / Assassination Plot

REPORTER: John Chancellor

NBC Evening News for Thursday, May 17, 1979

Three Australian Newspapers also reported on the story:

717711648_7f42a9705f_o.jpg


717711866_e908c6f740_o.jpg


717711878_26356bc03a_o.jpg




This story seems to have vanished shortly after it was first reported. Was the combined name Lee Harvey Osvaldo just a very strange coincidence or was somebody trying to send a not so subtle message to President Carter. Jimmy Carter first shook things up by winning the Democratic Party Nomination because he was the ultimate outsider indeed once elected he even further rocked the boat because he was doing things very differently than previous administrations had which is something we all know doesn't appeal to well to the Washington insider establishment.

713605391_2b668c61fd_o.jpg

President Carter with members of the ALLMAN BROTHERS BAND who were major donors to his campaign and they also played at his Inaugural Ball

I often think about how things would have been so much better for this country if Ronald Reagan had never been elected President. President Carter was a far better President than is often portrayed in the Media. He was a real Christian not a fake like these Religious Right bastards who have hijacked a religion to enforce their narrow minded hate-filled agenda down the rest of our fuckin throats. Jimmy Carter made human rights an issue during his presidency he also cut ties with several Right Wing military dictatorships who had committed horrible human rights abuses. He also had plans to scale down the War on Drugs and move towards legalizing Marijuana.

amen to that.:clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2:


713605317_45d0b0970a_o.gif

President Carter with Willie Nelson

According to Wikipedia Raymond Lee Harvey was sentenced to life in prison for his role in the plot to assassinate President Jimmy Carter but the fate of his partner Osvaldo Espinoza Ortiz was quite different because he was simply released due to lack of evidence and he has apparently disappeared from the face of the earth.

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President Carter with Andy Warhol

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the professor here talks even more about everything everything i posted in that post.:beer:

 
I thought the second guy was named Rafael Cruz? I thought that had been proved?

Trump says Cruz is now 'Beautiful Ted,' but doesn't regret implicating his father in JFK assassination

In May 2016, Trump said to Fox News: "[Cruz's] father was with Lee Harvey Oswald prior to Oswald's being — you know, shot. I mean, the whole thing is ridiculous. What is this, right prior to his being shot, and nobody even brings it up. They don't even talk about that. That was reported, and nobody talks about it."

"I mean, what was he doing — what was he doing with Lee Harvey Oswald shortly before the death? Before the shooting?" Trump added at the time. "It's horrible."
 
I thought the second guy was named Rafael Cruz? I thought that had been proved?

Trump says Cruz is now 'Beautiful Ted,' but doesn't regret implicating his father in JFK assassination

In May 2016, Trump said to Fox News: "[Cruz's] father was with Lee Harvey Oswald prior to Oswald's being — you know, shot. I mean, the whole thing is ridiculous. What is this, right prior to his being shot, and nobody even brings it up. They don't even talk about that. That was reported, and nobody talks about it."

"I mean, what was he doing — what was he doing with Lee Harvey Oswald shortly before the death? Before the shooting?" Trump added at the time. "It's horrible."
At least a dozen people in this photo from Poppy's funeral know.
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