J. Marion Sims: Pioneer of Medical Science Now Erased From History BY History

[toobfreak]

J. Marion Sims, often called The Father Of Modern Gynecology---- how many women's lives has he saved by his pioneering work? So much so that they erected a statue to him in Central Park where it has stood for ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY YEARS --- --- --- now gone.

Why?

Not just a general pioneer in the field of surgery, his most significant work was to develop a surgical technique for the repair of vesicovaginal fistula, a severe complication of obstructed childbirth. Sims conformed to accepted medical practices of the time, he performed surgery for a therapeutic result, and the women he operated on suffered what could be a catastrophic condition for their health and quality of life.

There is only one problem: medical science and techniques were still very crude and in their developmental stages back in the 1840s. Anesthesia was only then beginning to become available and not wholly accepted, and the standard at the time to try out new procedures was quite naturally: on slaves.

But these women all suffered from a medical condition and Sims helped them. Not only did they get helped and cured, for free, but they advanced the field of medicine. Back in the 1840s, this is how things were done. The man was a pioneer and a hero.

Now today though, he is being seen through the eyes of a world 170 years later hell bent on condemning all aspects of slavery. Despite all the good he did and his good intentions and standards for the day, none of that matters now. He operated on slaves as all doctors did in pioneering medical work back then, they were usually brought to him by their owners because they were very ill and it was hoped he could treat and help them, but therefore: VERY BAD MAN. His statue after 120 years has been removed from Central Park to cleanse the conscience of a PC world gone mad to forget its own history.

Once adorning the New York Academy of Medicine, his statue is now being moved to be hidden in shame in the cemetery near where he is buried. Until now, he was honored "for his service to suffering women, Empress and slave alike."

Central Park statue of gynecologist J. Marion Sims removed

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Neonazi book-burning democrats.

 

[BULLDOG]

J. Marion Sims, often called The Father Of Modern Gynecology---- how many women's lives has he saved by his pioneering work? So much so that they erected a statue to him in Central Park where it has stood for ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY YEARS --- --- --- now gone.

Why?

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Not just a general pioneer in the field of surgery, his most significant work was to develop a surgical technique for the repair of vesicovaginal fistula, a severe complication of obstructed childbirth. Sims conformed to accepted medical practices of the time, he performed surgery for a therapeutic result, and the women he operated on suffered what could be a catastrophic condition for their health and quality of life.

There is only one problem: medical science and techniques were still very crude and in their developmental stages back in the 1840s. Anesthesia was only then beginning to become available and not wholly accepted, and the standard at the time to try out new procedures was quite naturally: on slaves.

But these women all suffered from a medical condition and Sims helped them. Not only did they get helped and cured, for free, but they advanced the field of medicine. Back in the 1840s, this is how things were done. The man was a pioneer and a hero.

Now today though, he is being seen through the eyes of a world 170 years later hell bent on condemning all aspects of slavery. Despite all the good he did and his good intentions and standards for the day, none of that matters now. He operated on slaves as all doctors did in pioneering medical work back then, they were usually brought to him by their owners because they were very ill and it was hoped he could treat and help them, but therefore: VERY BAD MAN. His statue after 120 years has been removed from Central Park to cleanse the conscience of a PC world gone mad to forget its own history.

View attachment 188680

Once adorning the New York Academy of Medicine, his statue is now being moved to be hidden in shame in the cemetery near where he is buried. Until now, he was honored "for his service to suffering women, Empress and slave alike."

Central Park statue of gynecologist J. Marion Sims removed

You are absolutely right. The nerve of those ingrateful people who just didn't appreciate the medical care they received, and at no cost to them. Here are a bunch of other ungrateful takers who probably never even thanked the medical personell who experimented on them for free.

Nazi Medical Experiments — Photograph

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

J. Marion Sims, often called The Father Of Modern Gynecology---- how many women's lives has he saved by his pioneering work? So much so that they erected a statue to him in Central Park where it has stood for ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY YEARS --- --- --- now gone.

Why?

View attachment 188678


Not just a general pioneer in the field of surgery, his most significant work was to develop a surgical technique for the repair of vesicovaginal fistula, a severe complication of obstructed childbirth. Sims conformed to accepted medical practices of the time, he performed surgery for a therapeutic result, and the women he operated on suffered what could be a catastrophic condition for their health and quality of life.

There is only one problem: medical science and techniques were still very crude and in their developmental stages back in the 1840s. Anesthesia was only then beginning to become available and not wholly accepted, and the standard at the time to try out new procedures was quite naturally: on slaves.

But these women all suffered from a medical condition and Sims helped them. Not only did they get helped and cured, for free, but they advanced the field of medicine. Back in the 1840s, this is how things were done. The man was a pioneer and a hero.

Now today though, he is being seen through the eyes of a world 170 years later hell bent on condemning all aspects of slavery. Despite all the good he did and his good intentions and standards for the day, none of that matters now. He operated on slaves as all doctors did in pioneering medical work back then, they were usually brought to him by their owners because they were very ill and it was hoped he could treat and help them, but therefore: VERY BAD MAN. His statue after 120 years has been removed from Central Park to cleanse the conscience of a PC world gone mad to forget its own history.

View attachment 188680

Once adorning the New York Academy of Medicine, his statue is now being moved to be hidden in shame in the cemetery near where he is buried. Until now, he was honored "for his service to suffering women, Empress and slave alike."

Central Park statue of gynecologist J. Marion Sims removed

You are absolutely right. The nerve of those ingrateful people who just didn't appreciate the medical care they received, and at no cost to them. Here are a bunch of other ungrateful takers who probably never even thanked the medical personell who experimented on them for free.

Nazi Medical Experiments — Photograph
View attachment 188684

Completely different eras and contexts. But leave it to a hateful bigoted lefty Marxist dupe like you to conflate them for your own bigoted purposes.

 

[toobfreak]

J. Marion Sims, often called The Father Of Modern Gynecology---- how many women's lives has he saved by his pioneering work? So much so that they erected a statue to him in Central Park where it has stood for ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY YEARS --- --- --- now gone.

Why?

View attachment 188678


Not just a general pioneer in the field of surgery, his most significant work was to develop a surgical technique for the repair of vesicovaginal fistula, a severe complication of obstructed childbirth. Sims conformed to accepted medical practices of the time, he performed surgery for a therapeutic result, and the women he operated on suffered what could be a catastrophic condition for their health and quality of life.

There is only one problem: medical science and techniques were still very crude and in their developmental stages back in the 1840s. Anesthesia was only then beginning to become available and not wholly accepted, and the standard at the time to try out new procedures was quite naturally: on slaves.

But these women all suffered from a medical condition and Sims helped them. Not only did they get helped and cured, for free, but they advanced the field of medicine. Back in the 1840s, this is how things were done. The man was a pioneer and a hero.

Now today though, he is being seen through the eyes of a world 170 years later hell bent on condemning all aspects of slavery. Despite all the good he did and his good intentions and standards for the day, none of that matters now. He operated on slaves as all doctors did in pioneering medical work back then, they were usually brought to him by their owners because they were very ill and it was hoped he could treat and help them, but therefore: VERY BAD MAN. His statue after 120 years has been removed from Central Park to cleanse the conscience of a PC world gone mad to forget its own history.

View attachment 188680

Once adorning the New York Academy of Medicine, his statue is now being moved to be hidden in shame in the cemetery near where he is buried. Until now, he was honored "for his service to suffering women, Empress and slave alike."

Central Park statue of gynecologist J. Marion Sims removed

You are absolutely right. The nerve of those ingrateful people who just didn't appreciate the medical care they received, and at no cost to them. Here are a bunch of other ungrateful takers who probably never even thanked the medical personell who experimented on them for free.

Nazi Medical Experiments — Photograph
View attachment 188684

As always, in your own stupid way Bulldog, you either go out of your way to make an ass of yourself, or prove you only argue for the sake of arguing, even when your point is flawed. How dare you compare a legitimate doctor trying to help people and save lives by treating the sick brought to him ill who WANTED to get better with Nazi war criminals who took prisoners who weren't even sick and against their will, infected them with disease, glass, dirt and all other kinds of maladies you wouldn't want to do to an animal, JUST TO SEE THE RESULT. If you even bothered you read your own link or think past the level of a 5-year old, you'd see that.

 

[BULLDOG]

J. Marion Sims, often called The Father Of Modern Gynecology---- how many women's lives has he saved by his pioneering work? So much so that they erected a statue to him in Central Park where it has stood for ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY YEARS --- --- --- now gone.

Why?

View attachment 188678


Not just a general pioneer in the field of surgery, his most significant work was to develop a surgical technique for the repair of vesicovaginal fistula, a severe complication of obstructed childbirth. Sims conformed to accepted medical practices of the time, he performed surgery for a therapeutic result, and the women he operated on suffered what could be a catastrophic condition for their health and quality of life.

There is only one problem: medical science and techniques were still very crude and in their developmental stages back in the 1840s. Anesthesia was only then beginning to become available and not wholly accepted, and the standard at the time to try out new procedures was quite naturally: on slaves.

But these women all suffered from a medical condition and Sims helped them. Not only did they get helped and cured, for free, but they advanced the field of medicine. Back in the 1840s, this is how things were done. The man was a pioneer and a hero.

Now today though, he is being seen through the eyes of a world 170 years later hell bent on condemning all aspects of slavery. Despite all the good he did and his good intentions and standards for the day, none of that matters now. He operated on slaves as all doctors did in pioneering medical work back then, they were usually brought to him by their owners because they were very ill and it was hoped he could treat and help them, but therefore: VERY BAD MAN. His statue after 120 years has been removed from Central Park to cleanse the conscience of a PC world gone mad to forget its own history.

View attachment 188680

Once adorning the New York Academy of Medicine, his statue is now being moved to be hidden in shame in the cemetery near where he is buried. Until now, he was honored "for his service to suffering women, Empress and slave alike."

Central Park statue of gynecologist J. Marion Sims removed

You are absolutely right. The nerve of those ingrateful people who just didn't appreciate the medical care they received, and at no cost to them. Here are a bunch of other ungrateful takers who probably never even thanked the medical personell who experimented on them for free.

Nazi Medical Experiments — Photograph
View attachment 188684

Completely different eras and contexts. But leave it to a hateful bigoted lefty Marxist dupe like you to conflate them for your own bigoted purposes.

Really? The victims in both cases had no choice in the experimentation where they were regularly disfigured and/or died from brutal butchery with no anesthetic, and you consider it a plus that they weren't charger for their unwanted "treatment". That's just disgusting.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Anything and everything will be cleansed by leftists.

Their hatred is so deep and strong they can't see the good anyone has ever done, all they look at is the bad.

Ask any of them to say some good about America and all you will get is; obama

 

[AvgGuyIA]

We are experiencing modern day book burning.

 

[JoeB131]

J. Marion Sims, often called The Father Of Modern Gynecology---- how many women's lives has he saved by his pioneering work? So much so that they erected a statue to him in Central Park where it has stood for ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY YEARS --- --- --- now gone.

Actually, the statue was only there for 84 years, and it was removed because Sims performed experiments on slave women without their permission and without anesthesia. He sometimes bought them for the sole purpose of experimenting on them, while other doctors watch.

In short, 'Well, I can't do this thing on a white woman until I'm sure it works. Let's try it on Prissy first!" then you got some white dude screwing around in your hoo-ha while a bunch of other white guys watched.

 

[JoeB131]

Anything and everything will be cleansed by leftists.

Their hatred is so deep and strong they can't see the good anyone has ever done, all they look at is the bad.

Ask any of them to say some good about America and all you will get is; obama

You do realize that experimenting on people without their permission is bad, right?

 

[JoeB131]

As always, in your own stupid way Bulldog, you either go out of your way to make an ass of yourself, or prove you only argue for the sake of arguing, even when your point is flawed. How dare you compare a legitimate doctor trying to help people and save lives by treating the sick brought to him ill who WANTED to get better with Nazi war criminals who took prisoners who weren't even sick and against their will, infected them with disease, glass, dirt and all other kinds of maladies you wouldn't want to do to an animal, JUST TO SEE THE RESULT. If you even bothered you read your own link or think past the level of a 5-year old, you'd see that.

except that's not what happened with Sims.

People didn't bring their slaves to Sims for treatment. They SOLD sick slaves to him so he could do procedures that weren't tested or proven on them.

Maybe Bulldog is being a bit over the top, but not by much.

 

[JimBowie1958]

We are experiencing modern day book burning.

The left is Americas version of the Taliban.

 

[JoeB131]

Okay, to put the reason why this Sims guy is getting his statue torn down....

J. Marion Sims - Wikipedia

In Montgomery, Alabama between 1845 and 1849, Sims conducted experimental surgery on 12 enslaved women with fistulas in his backyard hospital[10], who were brought to him by their masters. Sims took responsibility for their care on the condition that the masters provide clothing and pay taxes.[9] He named three enslaved women in his records: Anarcha, Betsy, and Lucy. Each suffered from fistula, and all were subjected to his surgical experimentation.[4] From 1845 to 1849 he conducted experimental surgery on each of them several times, operating on Anarcha 13 times before the repair of her fistulas was declared a success.[8] She had both vesicovaginal and rectovaginal fistulas, which he struggled to repair.[5]

Although anesthesia had very recently become available, Sims did not use any anesthetic during his procedures on Anarcha, Betsy, and Lucy.[4] According to Sims, anesthesia was not yet fully accepted into surgical practice, and he was unaware of the use of diethyl ether.[5][9] Ether as an anesthetic was available as early as the beginning of 1842.[9]

In addition, a common belief at the time was that black people did not feel as much pain as white people, and thus did not require anesthesia when undergoing surgery.[11] One patient, named Lucy, nearly died from septicemia. He had operated on her without anesthetics in the presence of twelve doctors, following the experimental use of a sponge to wipe urine from the bladder during the procedure.[8] She contracted septicemia because he left this sponge in her urethra and bladder.

You know what, Bulldog. I take it back. Comparing this guy to Mengele isn't that far off the mark.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Mao called his cleansing of Chinese history "cultural-revolution"

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

The Taliban erasing history.

 

[JoeB131]

Mao called his cleansing of Chinese history "cultural-revolution"

Which has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. Statues of fairies that never existed aren't quite the same thing as a torturer we know did awful things.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

J. Marion Sims, often called The Father Of Modern Gynecology---- how many women's lives has he saved by his pioneering work? So much so that they erected a statue to him in Central Park where it has stood for ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY YEARS --- --- --- now gone.

Why?

View attachment 188678


Not just a general pioneer in the field of surgery, his most significant work was to develop a surgical technique for the repair of vesicovaginal fistula, a severe complication of obstructed childbirth. Sims conformed to accepted medical practices of the time, he performed surgery for a therapeutic result, and the women he operated on suffered what could be a catastrophic condition for their health and quality of life.

There is only one problem: medical science and techniques were still very crude and in their developmental stages back in the 1840s. Anesthesia was only then beginning to become available and not wholly accepted, and the standard at the time to try out new procedures was quite naturally: on slaves.

But these women all suffered from a medical condition and Sims helped them. Not only did they get helped and cured, for free, but they advanced the field of medicine. Back in the 1840s, this is how things were done. The man was a pioneer and a hero.

Now today though, he is being seen through the eyes of a world 170 years later hell bent on condemning all aspects of slavery. Despite all the good he did and his good intentions and standards for the day, none of that matters now. He operated on slaves as all doctors did in pioneering medical work back then, they were usually brought to him by their owners because they were very ill and it was hoped he could treat and help them, but therefore: VERY BAD MAN. His statue after 120 years has been removed from Central Park to cleanse the conscience of a PC world gone mad to forget its own history.

View attachment 188680

Once adorning the New York Academy of Medicine, his statue is now being moved to be hidden in shame in the cemetery near where he is buried. Until now, he was honored "for his service to suffering women, Empress and slave alike."

Central Park statue of gynecologist J. Marion Sims removed

You are absolutely right. The nerve of those ingrateful people who just didn't appreciate the medical care they received, and at no cost to them. Here are a bunch of other ungrateful takers who probably never even thanked the medical personell who experimented on them for free.

Nazi Medical Experiments — Photograph
View attachment 188684

As always, in your own stupid way Bulldog, you either go out of your way to make an ass of yourself, or prove you only argue for the sake of arguing, even when your point is flawed. How dare you compare a legitimate doctor trying to help people and save lives by treating the sick brought to him ill who WANTED to get better with Nazi war criminals who took prisoners who weren't even sick and against their will, infected them with disease, glass, dirt and all other kinds of maladies you wouldn't want to do to an animal, JUST TO SEE THE RESULT. If you even bothered you read your own link or think past the level of a 5-year old, you'd see that.

Just another Marxist dupe rationalizing the agenda.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

J. Marion Sims, often called The Father Of Modern Gynecology---- how many women's lives has he saved by his pioneering work? So much so that they erected a statue to him in Central Park where it has stood for ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY YEARS --- --- --- now gone.

Why?

View attachment 188678


Not just a general pioneer in the field of surgery, his most significant work was to develop a surgical technique for the repair of vesicovaginal fistula, a severe complication of obstructed childbirth. Sims conformed to accepted medical practices of the time, he performed surgery for a therapeutic result, and the women he operated on suffered what could be a catastrophic condition for their health and quality of life.

There is only one problem: medical science and techniques were still very crude and in their developmental stages back in the 1840s. Anesthesia was only then beginning to become available and not wholly accepted, and the standard at the time to try out new procedures was quite naturally: on slaves.

But these women all suffered from a medical condition and Sims helped them. Not only did they get helped and cured, for free, but they advanced the field of medicine. Back in the 1840s, this is how things were done. The man was a pioneer and a hero.

Now today though, he is being seen through the eyes of a world 170 years later hell bent on condemning all aspects of slavery. Despite all the good he did and his good intentions and standards for the day, none of that matters now. He operated on slaves as all doctors did in pioneering medical work back then, they were usually brought to him by their owners because they were very ill and it was hoped he could treat and help them, but therefore: VERY BAD MAN. His statue after 120 years has been removed from Central Park to cleanse the conscience of a PC world gone mad to forget its own history.

View attachment 188680

Once adorning the New York Academy of Medicine, his statue is now being moved to be hidden in shame in the cemetery near where he is buried. Until now, he was honored "for his service to suffering women, Empress and slave alike."

Central Park statue of gynecologist J. Marion Sims removed

You are absolutely right. The nerve of those ingrateful people who just didn't appreciate the medical care they received, and at no cost to them. Here are a bunch of other ungrateful takers who probably never even thanked the medical personell who experimented on them for free.

Nazi Medical Experiments — Photograph
View attachment 188684

Completely different eras and contexts. But leave it to a hateful bigoted lefty Marxist dupe like you to conflate them for your own bigoted purposes.

Really? The victims in both cases had no choice in the experimentation where they were regularly disfigured and/or died from brutal butchery with no anesthetic, and you consider it a plus that they weren't charger for their unwanted "treatment". That's just disgusting.

Your dishonest deflection from context is disgusting. You have more hate than those you accuse of hate.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

J. Marion Sims, often called The Father Of Modern Gynecology---- how many women's lives has he saved by his pioneering work? So much so that they erected a statue to him in Central Park where it has stood for ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY YEARS --- --- --- now gone.

Why?

View attachment 188678


Not just a general pioneer in the field of surgery, his most significant work was to develop a surgical technique for the repair of vesicovaginal fistula, a severe complication of obstructed childbirth. Sims conformed to accepted medical practices of the time, he performed surgery for a therapeutic result, and the women he operated on suffered what could be a catastrophic condition for their health and quality of life.

There is only one problem: medical science and techniques were still very crude and in their developmental stages back in the 1840s. Anesthesia was only then beginning to become available and not wholly accepted, and the standard at the time to try out new procedures was quite naturally: on slaves.

But these women all suffered from a medical condition and Sims helped them. Not only did they get helped and cured, for free, but they advanced the field of medicine. Back in the 1840s, this is how things were done. The man was a pioneer and a hero.

Now today though, he is being seen through the eyes of a world 170 years later hell bent on condemning all aspects of slavery. Despite all the good he did and his good intentions and standards for the day, none of that matters now. He operated on slaves as all doctors did in pioneering medical work back then, they were usually brought to him by their owners because they were very ill and it was hoped he could treat and help them, but therefore: VERY BAD MAN. His statue after 120 years has been removed from Central Park to cleanse the conscience of a PC world gone mad to forget its own history.

View attachment 188680

Once adorning the New York Academy of Medicine, his statue is now being moved to be hidden in shame in the cemetery near where he is buried. Until now, he was honored "for his service to suffering women, Empress and slave alike."

Central Park statue of gynecologist J. Marion Sims removed

You are absolutely right. The nerve of those ingrateful people who just didn't appreciate the medical care they received, and at no cost to them. Here are a bunch of other ungrateful takers who probably never even thanked the medical personell who experimented on them for free.

Nazi Medical Experiments — Photograph
View attachment 188684

Completely different eras and contexts. But leave it to a hateful bigoted lefty Marxist dupe like you to conflate them for your own bigoted purposes.

Really? The victims in both cases had no choice in the experimentation where they were regularly disfigured and/or died from brutal butchery with no anesthetic, and you consider it a plus that they weren't charger for their unwanted "treatment". That's just disgusting.

They were dying a particularly painful death as it was. They received treatment and went on to live healthy lives. How disgusting is that?

The procedures were performed with no anesthetic, but procedures were performed with no anesthetic all the time. It was before anesthesia was widely used. Do you know that WHITE MEN had legs cut off with no anesthetic at all?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Okay, to put the reason why this Sims guy is getting his statue torn down....

J. Marion Sims - Wikipedia

In Montgomery, Alabama between 1845 and 1849, Sims conducted experimental surgery on 12 enslaved women with fistulas in his backyard hospital[10], who were brought to him by their masters. Sims took responsibility for their care on the condition that the masters provide clothing and pay taxes.[9] He named three enslaved women in his records: Anarcha, Betsy, and Lucy. Each suffered from fistula, and all were subjected to his surgical experimentation.[4] From 1845 to 1849 he conducted experimental surgery on each of them several times, operating on Anarcha 13 times before the repair of her fistulas was declared a success.[8] She had both vesicovaginal and rectovaginal fistulas, which he struggled to repair.[5]

Although anesthesia had very recently become available, Sims did not use any anesthetic during his procedures on Anarcha, Betsy, and Lucy.[4] According to Sims, anesthesia was not yet fully accepted into surgical practice, and he was unaware of the use of diethyl ether.[5][9] Ether as an anesthetic was available as early as the beginning of 1842.[9]

In addition, a common belief at the time was that black people did not feel as much pain as white people, and thus did not require anesthesia when undergoing surgery.[11] One patient, named Lucy, nearly died from septicemia. He had operated on her without anesthetics in the presence of twelve doctors, following the experimental use of a sponge to wipe urine from the bladder during the procedure.[8] She contracted septicemia because he left this sponge in her urethra and bladder.

You know what, Bulldog. I take it back. Comparing this guy to Mengele isn't that far off the mark.

The barbarian! Why didn't he use a laser scalpel? Much more sanitary and faster.