"I’ve been made the poster child for the failure of the stimulus program"

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    State mismanagement of U.S.-funded weatherization program is worse than previously thought | NJ.com

    $118 million. 7 "green jobs". Way to go. :evil:

    Maybe we need some more stimulus, eh?
     
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    Doubtless the same thing is occurring everywhere. Where is this money going? Mayhaps time for the FBI to get it in gear.
     
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    Yep.

    More Fraud In Stimulus-Funded Weatherization Program | Judicial Watch


    Fraud-Infested Weatherization Program Gets Billions | Judicial Watch


    Biden Touts Corrupt Welfare Program As Stimulus Triumph | Judicial Watch
     
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    It is amusing seeing all the whining about spending and when the Gubmint gets more carefull the same people whine about THAT!

    Apparantly some of you believe you can have it both ways. :lol:
     
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    Here in Maine the weatherization program seems to be going swimmingly.

    I personally know of at least three families whose homes have been weatherized in my town of 1000 homes.

    Now that doesn't seem like many, but remember these are just the people who I personally KNOW.
     
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    Who's whining about the government being more careful?

    And where is the government BEING more careful? :confused:
     
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    We bought our home in 1980, during the Carter Administration. Our home was built in 1968 and did not have any insulation. PG&E came in and did an audit and approved wall and ceiling insulation (but not floor). PG&E paid upfront for our walls and ceiling to be insulated and we paid them back, interest free, at $17 per month for five years.
    My point is, the idea is a good one, we have saved energy for over 30 years as well as money. Suggesting the stimulus program is a faiure today by pointing out several (likely criminal) examples does not tell the whole story.
    Much like medicare fraud, employee theft, worker's comp fraud and retail theft, $$$ billions of dollars are wasted in our country. When Wall Street Bankers and member of Congress wantonly steal (legally and otherwise) the example is set. Why should I, or you, behave honestly when those in power do not?
     
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    Good for ME editec. But why should the people in FL have to subsidize the heating bills of people in ME? Or line the pockets of crooks in NJ? The purpose of the stimulus was to "stimulate" job growth. Not to create govt jobs and provide entitlements. Or maybe it was...Maybe Mr. Biden was just being honest.
     
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    Maybe a bit off topic but worth considering is this article from 1985:


    "Budget Director David Stockman said it first when he unveiled the Administration's proposals for radical cuts in domestic spending. Treasury Secretary James Baker picked up the refrain in Senate testimony. But no one has voiced the argument against federal revenue sharing more often or more forcefully than Ronald Reagan. He said it again last week when he met with the National Governors' Association at the White House: "There's simply no justification for the Federal Government, which is running a deficit, to be borrowing money to be spent by state and local governments, some of which are now running surpluses."

    "As with so many of the President's sweeping pronouncements, his comparison of federal and state finances contained much appeal, some merit and considerable oversimplification. To be sure, the federal red ink is overflowing. The Congressional Budget Office predicted last week that even if the President gets all the spending cuts he wants, which seems highly unlikely, deficits will average about $185 billion a year for the next five years, rather than declining to $144 billion by 1988, as the Administration projects."

    Read more: The Drive to Kill Revenue Sharing - TIME

    Funny isn't it, when one goes to original sources how history changes.
     

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