It's worse than we thought...

[Old Rocks]

I see. So what you are saying is that since the resources they have at present is not adaquete to do a complete job, you would withdraw those resources completely. And that would make the situation better? jc, you are an idiot.

 

[mamooth]

Notice neither CrickHam or Mammy can answer WHY this hasn't been done..

Poor flac doesn't realize the stations he thinks are missing are actually there. What's not there is a long historical record for those stations, hence they're not part of the GHCN network, where the "H" stands for "historical".

So, he's proposing spending money on something that's already been done, because his conspiracy theory led him astray again.

 

[jc456]

I see. So what you are saying is that since the resources they have at present is not adaquete to do a complete job, you would withdraw those resources completely. And that would make the situation better? jc, you are an idiot.

nope, isn't what I said and you can apologize anytime.

 

[jc456]

Notice neither CrickHam or Mammy can answer WHY this hasn't been done..

Poor flac doesn't realize the stations he thinks are missing are actually there. What's not there is a long historical record for those stations, hence they're not part of the GHCN network, where the "H" stands for "historical".

So, he's proposing spending money on something that's already been done, because his conspiracy theory led him astray again.

Since the oceans are the biggest area of the planet, it doesn't look like much area is captured.

 

[flacaltenn]

I'm seriously considering a crowd-sourced project to fill in the gaps.. Let them try to ignore the hundreds of new stations we could build..

If Global Warming IS an imminent disaster -- you could easily raise $10 or $15M to fill in the surface measurement gaps.

Notice neither CrickHam or Mammy can answer WHY this hasn't been done..
ANYBODY ????

Were it even suggested, the Teabaggers in the Congress would go ballistic. However, you are correct, we should be investing ten times that for monitoring of our planet.

See ---- now that's a completely reasonable answer to a question that hasn't been asked.. I assume you'd shell out $20 bucks to monitor the fever of the Planet right O-Rocks??

Other than that unwarranted jab at teabaggers who would probably VOLUNTARILY kick in a few bucks as long as it wasn't a biased govt appropriation..

Pt to O-rocks..

 

[flacaltenn]

Notice neither FiCTion nor Bulemic Bob address why there are gaps where there are gaps nor show any evidence to support their contentions regarding the motivations for these adjustments nor make any attempt to refute the justifications the dataholders have provided.

You say neither of us "can" answer why this hasn't been done. Neither of us has been asked to do so and neither of us has made any attempt to do so. Thus neither of us has failed any attempts and thus there is zero evidence that we are unable to do so. So, what I notice is that, once again, you do not seem to even desire evidence to support the contentions you choose to make.

Well that's a totally LAZY ASS response. The Gaps are obvious and well documented and the question hasn't been asked because your heroes are HAPPY with the status quo of inventing data over 60% or more of the Earth's surface. Stop whining and start THINKING and exploring a bit..

 

[flacaltenn]

In fact, Flacaltenn, look at the people here that want to totally defund NOAA, and any other agency that monitors the weather and climate. They would shut down the satellites that monitor the sea ice and snow cover.

I don't want to defund NOAA or NASA -- I want the political appointees OUT and the bias OUT and the Congress in charge of the oversight of these agencies.

 

[flacaltenn]

Notice neither CrickHam or Mammy can answer WHY this hasn't been done..

Poor flac doesn't realize the stations he thinks are missing are actually there. What's not there is a long historical record for those stations, hence they're not part of the GHCN network, where the "H" stands for "historical".

So, he's proposing spending money on something that's already been done, because his conspiracy theory led him astray again.

Yeppers. CrickHam CantReadaChart disease is running rampant here. NO massive holes in the coverage that require invented data in that picture.. Damn -- you're stupid..

Hadley requires a 50 yr record of adjacent urban/rural stations to do UHeatIsland corrections. How much of Africa. S. America, Africa or the poles have that kind of coverage??

 

[mamooth]

So flac, you're admitting that your suckitude at chart reading is part of your general incompetence on this topic?

Now, tell us more about the "gaps", and how they affect temperature. That is, aside from your fervent faith of the true believer, what makes you think more coverage would make warming look smaller? After all, when the USA reduced the number of stations used, it made the warming look _smaller_.

(As a general rule, the deeper you go, the stupider any denier conspiracy theory looks.)

And by the way, lying by declaring "estimating" is "inventing" may play well with the other cultists, but most people recognize it as lying. The choir loves you, but nobody else cares about your preaching.

 

[Crick]

Notice neither FiCTion nor Bulemic Bob address why there are gaps where there are gaps nor show any evidence to support their contentions regarding the motivations for these adjustments nor make any attempt to refute the justifications the dataholders have provided.

You say neither of us "can" answer why this hasn't been done. Neither of us has been asked to do so and neither of us has made any attempt to do so. Thus neither of us has failed any attempts and thus there is zero evidence that we are unable to do so. So, what I notice is that, once again, you do not seem to even desire evidence to support the contentions you choose to make.

Well that's a totally LAZY ASS response. The Gaps are obvious and well documented and the question hasn't been asked because your heroes are HAPPY with the status quo of inventing data over 60% or more of the Earth's surface. Stop whining and start THINKING and exploring a bit..

You admit the question hasn't been asked. Thus you admit that your charge is false.

 

[flacaltenn]

Notice neither FiCTion nor Bulemic Bob address why there are gaps where there are gaps nor show any evidence to support their contentions regarding the motivations for these adjustments nor make any attempt to refute the justifications the dataholders have provided.

You say neither of us "can" answer why this hasn't been done. Neither of us has been asked to do so and neither of us has made any attempt to do so. Thus neither of us has failed any attempts and thus there is zero evidence that we are unable to do so. So, what I notice is that, once again, you do not seem to even desire evidence to support the contentions you choose to make.

Well that's a totally LAZY ASS response. The Gaps are obvious and well documented and the question hasn't been asked because your heroes are HAPPY with the status quo of inventing data over 60% or more of the Earth's surface. Stop whining and start THINKING and exploring a bit..

You admit the question hasn't been asked. Thus you admit that your charge is false.

WTF dude.. Are you brain damaged? Explain the logic of your last post to me. How "because the question hasn't been asked" that it SOMEHOW in your adled brain means there are no serious gaps in surface temperature coverage. And how that relates to folks NOT WANTING to fix them..

 

[jc456]

So flac, you're admitting that your suckitude at chart reading is part of your general incompetence on this topic?

Now, tell us more about the "gaps", and how they affect temperature. That is, aside from your fervent faith of the true believer, what makes you think more coverage would make warming look smaller? After all, when the USA reduced the number of stations used, it made the warming look _smaller_.

(As a general rule, the deeper you go, the stupider any denier conspiracy theory looks.)

And by the way, lying by declaring "estimating" is "inventing" may play well with the other cultists, but most people recognize it as lying. The choir loves you, but nobody else cares about your preaching.

who are most people?

Edit: Do you have a poll?

 

[Billy_Bob]

Notice neither FiCTion nor Bulemic Bob address why there are gaps where there are gaps nor show any evidence to support their contentions regarding the motivations for these adjustments nor make any attempt to refute the justifications the dataholders have provided.

You say neither of us "can" answer why this hasn't been done. Neither of us has been asked to do so and neither of us has made any attempt to do so. Thus neither of us has failed any attempts and thus there is zero evidence that we are unable to do so. So, what I notice is that, once again, you do not seem to even desire evidence to support the contentions you choose to make.

Then there is idiot CRICK... he doesn't give a dam about real data and real evidence he is content to believe what ever his masters tell him...

Tell me Crick... why are you opposed to real empirical evidence and real data?

 

[tinydancer]

If one understands that Merkel's adviser is the man advising the Pope more things make sense.

 

[skookerasbil]

Notice neither CrickHam or Mammy can answer WHY this hasn't been done..

Poor flac doesn't realize the stations he thinks are missing are actually there. What's not there is a long historical record for those stations, hence they're not part of the GHCN network, where the "H" stands for "historical".

So, he's proposing spending money on something that's already been done, because his conspiracy theory led him astray again.

Who cant love these goofball c o l o r f u l phony graphs that use these deep shades of red to spook people and meanwhile it is representing miniscule temperature increases. Progressives always use this fake stuff.........note there is no temperature context on the graph.


s0n....did you get deballed at some point? All your presentation is so fucking feminine then you throw in that ghey cat.........whats up with that?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

The Pope's visit has sent many deniers over the edge for good.

Sometimes fans of a losing sports team riot out of rage and frustration and disappointment. Deniers are like that now.

Yes, he called that wicked chart satanic.

 

[Billy_Bob]

And just as the left is getting lambasted with the revelation of 31.5 million in fraud by their cream of the crop alarmists at George Mason University out comes the Guardian with another flat out lie and defamation of Dr Willie Soon. Even thought the links they purport, again, have been shown lies repeatably, they engage in outright defamation of character and deceptive misdirection, but it wont help deflect from their own lying sacks of excrement.

The Guardian is nothing more than a poo flinging monkey..