It's Very Simple The Democrats Want Santorum

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The reason:
Who is he going to turn off?
Women, Moderates, Independents, Latinos and fiscal conservatives.

Who is going to support him and keeping him in the race?
Social conservatives (the backbone of the GOP)

Who will Romney appeal to?
Women, Moderates, Democrats worried about the economy, Latinos worried about the economy, Independents who don't see him a social conservative extremist (as everyone will see Santorum) and all AMERICAN'S worried about the economy.

Who is beating him up and not voting for him in the primaries?
Social conservatives (the backbone of the GOP). They are not voting for him, they are keeping Santorum alive. However, they WILL vote for him in Nov. You can guarantee it.

Who is voting for Romney allowing him to remain the lead in primaries?
Independents, right leaning moderates, fiscal conservatives and not your classic GOP votes. Romney is winning in swing states and liberal states. This is where the election will be won or lost. The red social conservative states that Santorum is winning, will be won by Romney. Those purple and even blue states that Romney is winning are the states necessary for a GOP victory. National elections are won and lost by the independent vote. If you can't appeal to them you lost. The party base can only get you so far.

Santorum appeals to the base, Romney appeals to the independents!
 
Every election cycle the same sad song is sung by the Conservatives! "The Democrats/Liberals/Moderates chose our nominee." McCain, Dole, Bush. Some unknown force, some secret conspiracy is responsible for the selection of the Republican nominee.

Well, there's no bogeyman, no cabal, no conspiracy to name the Republican nominee. the cold hard fact is there simply are not enough far right wing Conservative wing nuts to make the Republican party chose someone they feel good about. The Conservatives are a minority within the minority party.

Sure, you're loud. Sure you have magnificent mouthpieces you genuflect to (see Limbaugh, Coulter, Hannity, Beck). But apart from that, you are too few in numbers to name a nominee, let alone win a national election with a Conservative candidate (like Li'l Ricky Santorum)

But none of that stops the whining, the weeping, the wailing, the gnashing of teeth and tearing of hair. It's pitiful and hilarious at once, this quadrennial complaint from the wing nuts.
 
Every election cycle the same sad song is sung by the Conservatives! "The Democrats/Liberals/Moderates chose our nominee." McCain, Dole, Bush. Some unknown force, some secret conspiracy is responsible for the selection of the Republican nominee.

Well, there's no bogeyman, no cabal, no conspiracy to name the Republican nominee. the cold hard fact is there simply are not enough far right wing Conservative wing nuts to make the Republican party chose someone they feel good about. The Conservatives are a minority within the minority party.

Sure, you're loud. Sure you have magnificent mouthpieces you genuflect to (see Limbaugh, Coulter, Hannity, Beck). But apart from that, you are too few in numbers to name a nominee, let alone win a national election with a Conservative candidate (like Li'l Ricky Santorum)

But none of that stops the whining, the weeping, the wailing, the gnashing of teeth and tearing of hair. It's pitiful and hilarious at once, this quadrennial complaint from the wing nuts.

that's because, like paulians, the self-professed conservatives (who are really reactionaries) think they represent mainstream thought.

then they believe, when their dearth of numbers is proven, that there must be some type of conspiracy at play.
 
Well can you blame them? I'd love for Obama to step down and let Maxine Waters run as the (D) nominee but that's because I'm a conservative libertarian.
 
Take some personal responsibility for your party and admit that it is not the unified GOP of yesteryear and is in fact now factional, paralyzed by contradictory goals and hamstrung by ideological zealots. Not going to hide the fact any longer that the social conservatives only mattered every two years, took them long enough to realize that the establishment GOP is not their friend.
 
Romney is not the answer to the economy. I wish he were since he's the GOP guy. But he isn't. So any fiscal conservatives with a half a brain will not support him.

Santorum is the pick for Dems because the guy is a menace and Obama will defeat him with ease. Of course Obama is gonna win anyway so the whole "choose the one he can beat real easy" stunt isn't quite necessary.
 
No. No no no.

The liberal Democratics want ROMNEY. The biggest campaign issue will be overturning ObamaCare.

The one candidate least capable of convincingly arguing against ObamaCare is Mitt.
 
Every election cycle the same sad song is sung by the Conservatives! "The Democrats/Liberals/Moderates chose our nominee." McCain, Dole, Bush. Some unknown force, some secret conspiracy is responsible for the selection of the Republican nominee.

Well, there's no bogeyman, no cabal, no conspiracy to name the Republican nominee. the cold hard fact is there simply are not enough far right wing Conservative wing nuts to make the Republican party chose someone they feel good about. The Conservatives are a minority within the minority party.

Sure, you're loud. Sure you have magnificent mouthpieces you genuflect to (see Limbaugh, Coulter, Hannity, Beck). But apart from that, you are too few in numbers to name a nominee, let alone win a national election with a Conservative candidate (like Li'l Ricky Santorum)

But none of that stops the whining, the weeping, the wailing, the gnashing of teeth and tearing of hair. It's pitiful and hilarious at once, this quadrennial complaint from the wing nuts.

that's because, like paulians, the self-professed conservatives (who are really reactionaries) think they represent mainstream thought.

then they believe, when their dearth of numbers is proven, that there must be some type of conspiracy at play.
Of course they believe that they are in the mainstream of political thought. How else could they rationalize such self destructive policies? But what I find puzzling is how they think they're a large enough group to effect the political process. I think they are exposed to their own echo chamber too much. They listen to Rush, read Coulter, watch Fox and then believe that there are enough like-minded people to elect a president.
 
So far, all the Clown Car Candidates have done everything they can to "turn off" just about every segment of our society, including right wingers. A said above - its that way every 4 years. Heck, poor McSame was so desperate, he tried to force a total ditz on us but the voters saw right through that debacle.

I don't think it will matter much who the final Clown is because they all seem to be working undercover for the Dems.

Not to mention that President Obama has done everything the pubs can't - more than 4 million jobs while the pubs filibuster against jobs, economy, bin Laden ... you get the picture. He's not perfect but at least he's working for the United States instead of for foreign banks and foreign businesses.
 
No. No no no.

The liberal Democratics want ROMNEY. The biggest campaign issue will be overturning ObamaCare.

The one candidate least capable of convincingly arguing against ObamaCare is Mitt.

And the lucky residents of Mass who continue to be very happy with Romney Care.

And Hawaii because they also have a variation of Romney Care and, as a result, they're insured, get better care and pay less for it.
 
No. No no no.

The liberal Democratics want ROMNEY. The biggest campaign issue will be overturning ObamaCare.

The one candidate least capable of convincingly arguing against ObamaCare is Mitt.

And the lucky residents of Mass who continue to be very happy with Romney Care.

And Hawaii because they also have a variation of Romney Care and, as a result, they're insured, get better care and pay less for it.

Blather.

Not unexpected from muddly.dullwit.

Even IF what you said had a speck of truth in it, there is still no validity to passing legislation that violate the Constitution.
 
No. No no no.

The liberal Democratics want ROMNEY. The biggest campaign issue will be overturning ObamaCare.

The one candidate least capable of convincingly arguing against ObamaCare is Mitt.

meh if Romney can make it out of a GOP primary with the Romneycare bullseye painted on his chest then it shouldn't be a make or break issue for him in a general election. The only way it hurts him is if conservatives simply don't vote for him because of it. If that were to actually happen, the GOP at that point would be left with few options other than reinventing its entire platform so as to restructure its voting base.
 
There's no way we want Sanitorium to get the nomination.

Reason: there's a chance, however slim, that he could win.

Stranger things have happened.
 
No. No no no.

The liberal Democratics want ROMNEY. The biggest campaign issue will be overturning ObamaCare.

The one candidate least capable of convincingly arguing against ObamaCare is Mitt.

See? Any of them would be great. I really want to see a brokered convention though.
 
No. No no no.

The liberal Democratics want ROMNEY. The biggest campaign issue will be overturning ObamaCare.

The one candidate least capable of convincingly arguing against ObamaCare is Mitt.



Wrong. Mitt is THE one to do it properly, and he will... :thup:

Health Care
 
Of course rabid Obama Supporters want Santorum. A Citizen's United powered Obama campaign will chew him up and spit him out. He has no money, no organization, and seems more than willing to piss off anyone that is even close to being a moderate.

The only advantage Santorum has on Romney is that Romney is a proven pro-Mandate guy, so it takes the Mandate off the table as an election issue. However, the truth is the Mandate is likely to be a non-issue in the General regardless as the SCOTUS will probably end up throwing that out. Once that happens, people will likely want to keep Obamacare on the books. A lot of the pre-existing condition stuff is actually pretty popular.
 
When will the far right realize they are so out of touch with main stream Americans their candidates will never fly or get the national nominations. A politician like Santorum can not get in touch with the centrists as in independents. He would need to do that because that is where elections are won and lost. The far right and the far left will consistently vote their way. The center swings both ways and someone as far to the right as Santorum is dead in the water with his campaign. It's a good thing.
 
Every election cycle the same sad song is sung by the Conservatives! "The Democrats/Liberals/Moderates chose our nominee." McCain, Dole, Bush. Some unknown force, some secret conspiracy is responsible for the selection of the Republican nominee.

But none of that stops the whining, the weeping, the wailing, the gnashing of teeth and tearing of hair. It's pitiful and hilarious at once, this quadrennial complaint from the wing nuts.
....And, they'll end-up with another four-years of whining & crying (to display their political-acumen; legendary....since the Black-dude got elected), or they'll go back to where they belong....NASCAR.​
 
No. No no no.

The liberal Democratics want ROMNEY. The biggest campaign issue will be overturning ObamaCare.

The one candidate least capable of convincingly arguing against ObamaCare is Mitt.

SCOTUS will overturn the Mandate. Once that's done, the rest of Obamacare is pretty popular. The Pre-Existing Condition clause, the extended coverage for young adults, the exchanges, etc. All of that is stuff people generally support when you get down to the nuts and bolts.

Obamacare won't be an issue once the Mandate is off the table, and there is absolutely no way in H-E-Double Hockey Sticks that the Supreme Court is going to allow the Mandate to stand.

If that's the only reason you think Mitt is a weak candidate, you have literally nothing to worry about. In a post Citizen's United world the only GOP candidate with a chance of beating Obama and the crazy Super PAC stuff he's going to bring is Romney.
 

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