It's Unanimous: No One Likes the Ryan Budget

[Greenbeard]

Despite 235 House Republicans voting for the Ryan budget in 2011 and the 228 again supporting it in 2012, now that it's almost November 2012 they want to pretend it never happened.

Except those Republican candidates who are lucky enough not to have been in Congress to be called to vote on it, or the handful of Republicans (like Rep. Denny Rehberg, who's now running for the Senate in Montana) who were smart enough to vote against it--those folks are actively running against the Ryan plan.

Ryan’s Budget Proposal Is Pitting G.O.P. Troops Against Top of the Ticket

TAMPA, Fla. — Even as Mitt Romney and Representative Paul D. Ryan exhort Republicans to embrace their proposed Medicare changes and spending cuts, the party’s rank and file is growing less enthusiastic about the fight than the top of the ticket.

Republican lawmakers and candidates are distancing themselves from the Ryan budget plan, which helped make the proposed changes a national issue. Republicans say the party now belongs to the more senior — and historically more malleable — member of the ticket, Mr. Romney, and not Mr. Ryan, the younger conservative firebrand who has become the subject of repeated Democratic criticism.

One Republican political consultant working on House and Senate races admitted “the Ryan budget is well under water,” hurting Republican House candidates in California, Florida, Illinois, New Jersey and Virginia, as well as Representative Rick Berg of North Dakota, once considered a shoo-in for the Senate. Republicans can effectively counter the Medicare attacks by going after Democrats on the president’s health care law, the consultant said, but every moment tussling over health care is a diversion from the issue that Republicans say can win the race — the economy.

Democrats are happy to concur. “We left for recess in a fairly neutral environment, where nearly a month later, we have a good stiff wind at our backs,” said Representative Steve Israel of New York, chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. “That wind is mostly propelled by Paul Ryan and his budget."

Even the leadership isn't guaranteeing they'll move in the next session on the plan they've already passed twice:

This week, Speaker John A. Boehner of Ohio repeatedly declined to say that a Republican election victory in November would be a mandate to pass a Ryan-style Medicare overhaul, instead pointing to energy, tax reform and more generalized deficit reduction.

Of course, they can't be trusted, as that's exactly what they said two years ago in August 2010:

Representative John A. Boehner, Republican of Ohio, the minority leader, has praised Mr. Ryan but said the Roadmap would not be a part of the Republican agenda this fall.

“There are parts of it that are well done,” Mr. Boehner told reporters last month. “Other parts I have some doubts about, in terms of how good the policy is.”

Turns out Ryan's plan actually was part of the Republican agenda after they took back control of the House. It was the centerpiece of it, in fact.

And of course it will be again. It's good to see Democrats pushing back hard against this radical rightwing social engineering in races across the country. And just a bit bizarre to see Ryan has literally taking to hiding behind Mommy in a sad bid to insulate him from attacks against his assault on Medicare.

 

[GuyPinestra]

$716 BILLION....

Oblama attacks Medicare, the ONLY person EVER to cut the program.

 

[Dot Com]

$716 BILLION....

Oblama attacks Medicare, the ONLY person EVER to cut the program.

You should read a newspaper ocassionally before posting. Obama shifted that $. You know what Mitt/Ryan does for that same amt of $ from the same program?

 

[Katzndogz]

There is no such thing as the Ryan Budget. It's been scrapped, long ago.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Well at least we're not talking about some obscure non related topic in this thread. But I really don't think Ryan's budget is a winning issue for you all.

 

[Leweman]

How bout that Obama budget?

 

[Wry Catcher]

What is it you like about the Ryan Budget Leweman?

 

[Greenbeard]

$716 BILLION....

Oblama attacks Medicare, the ONLY person EVER to cut the program.

Ryan's budget contains the same cuts. Then a few years later, his budget starts dismantling the program. Will you now join your comrades-in-arms and run from it?

There is no such thing as the Ryan Budget. It's been scrapped, long ago.

It last passed the House about four months ago (for the second time).

 

[Dot Com]

What is it you like about the Ryan Budget Leweman?

yeah Leweman, we're all ears.

 

[GuyPinestra]

How bout that Obama budget?

You mean the one the Senate voted down 0-99?? THAT budget??

 

[GuyPinestra]

$716 BILLION....

Oblama attacks Medicare, the ONLY person EVER to cut the program.

Ryan's budget contains the same cuts. Then a few years later, his budget starts dismantling the program. Will you now join your comrades-in-arms and run from it?

There is no such thing as the Ryan Budget. It's been scrapped, long ago.

It last passed the House about four months ago (for the second time).

Run from it? Hell no, I won't run from it. It NEEDS to be dismantled.

The trustees currently predict the Medicare Hospital Insurance (HI) trust fund will go bankrupt in 2024, five years earlier than they estimated in last year’s report.
Medicare’s unfunded liabilities total $24.6 trillion under the current law baseline.

By the Numbers: 2011 Medicare Trustees Report | House Committee on Ways & Means

 

[NYcarbineer]

$716 BILLION....

Oblama attacks Medicare, the ONLY person EVER to cut the program.

You don't want Medicare costs cut? Your position is that Medicare costs should simply rise in accordance with the rate of medical cost inflation?

That's very socialist of you. lolol

 

[driveby]

Despite 235 House Republicans voting for the Ryan budget in 2011 and the 228 again supporting it in 2012, now that it's almost November 2012 they want to pretend it never happened.

Except those Republican candidates who are lucky enough not to have been in Congress to be called to vote on it, or the handful of Republicans (like Rep. Denny Rehberg, who's now running for the Senate in Montana) who were smart enough to vote against it--those folks are actively running against the Ryan plan.

Ryan’s Budget Proposal Is Pitting G.O.P. Troops Against Top of the Ticket

TAMPA, Fla. — Even as Mitt Romney and Representative Paul D. Ryan exhort Republicans to embrace their proposed Medicare changes and spending cuts, the party’s rank and file is growing less enthusiastic about the fight than the top of the ticket.

Republican lawmakers and candidates are distancing themselves from the Ryan budget plan, which helped make the proposed changes a national issue. Republicans say the party now belongs to the more senior — and historically more malleable — member of the ticket, Mr. Romney, and not Mr. Ryan, the younger conservative firebrand who has become the subject of repeated Democratic criticism.

One Republican political consultant working on House and Senate races admitted “the Ryan budget is well under water,” hurting Republican House candidates in California, Florida, Illinois, New Jersey and Virginia, as well as Representative Rick Berg of North Dakota, once considered a shoo-in for the Senate. Republicans can effectively counter the Medicare attacks by going after Democrats on the president’s health care law, the consultant said, but every moment tussling over health care is a diversion from the issue that Republicans say can win the race — the economy.

Democrats are happy to concur. “We left for recess in a fairly neutral environment, where nearly a month later, we have a good stiff wind at our backs,” said Representative Steve Israel of New York, chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. “That wind is mostly propelled by Paul Ryan and his budget."

Even the leadership isn't guaranteeing they'll move in the next session on the plan they've already passed twice:

This week, Speaker John A. Boehner of Ohio repeatedly declined to say that a Republican election victory in November would be a mandate to pass a Ryan-style Medicare overhaul, instead pointing to energy, tax reform and more generalized deficit reduction.

Of course, they can't be trusted, as that's exactly what they said two years ago in August 2010:

Representative John A. Boehner, Republican of Ohio, the minority leader, has praised Mr. Ryan but said the Roadmap would not be a part of the Republican agenda this fall.

“There are parts of it that are well done,” Mr. Boehner told reporters last month. “Other parts I have some doubts about, in terms of how good the policy is.”

Turns out Ryan's plan actually was part of the Republican agenda after they took back control of the House. It was the centerpiece of it, in fact.

And of course it will be again. It's good to see Democrats pushing back hard against this radical rightwing social engineering in races across the country. And just a bit bizarre to see Ryan has literally taking to hiding behind Mommy in a sad bid to insulate him from attacks against his assault on Medicare.

Another liberal using medium sized words he doesn't understand.

Ryan's two budgets received a total of 463 votes.

Obama's two budgets received a total of 0 votes.

It's unanimous: No one likes the Obama budget.....

 

[Greenbeard]

Ryan's two budgets received a total of 463 votes.

Oh, I don't think anyone's going to be allowed to forget that. In every race where one of those Republican yea votes is on the ticket, it'll come up.

Hence the uneasiness of the candidates, as described in the OP.

 

[auditor0007]

$716 BILLION....

Oblama attacks Medicare, the ONLY person EVER to cut the program.

You guys tell us we need to make $10 trillion in cuts, but you don't want to cut spending on defense, and you now say you don't want any cuts to Medicare even after supporting Ryan's original plan that would have cut much more from Medicare. Either way, where are you going to make the cuts? All of a sudden, you cons are acting like liberals who don't want to cut anything, or are you just going to make all the cuts to welfare programs since the poor don't need any help anyway?

If a Democrat tries to cut spending, Republicans will tell us how bad this is. You can't make this shit up, it's fucking hilarious.

 

[driveby]

Ryan's two budgets received a total of 463 votes.

Oh, I don't think anyone's going to be allowed to forget that. In every race where one of those Republican yea votes is on the ticket, it'll come up.

Hence the uneasiness of the candidates, as described in the OP.

With that logic, every pissy pants democrat can't run away from Obama fast enough, correct?......

 

[NYcarbineer]

There is no such thing as the Ryan Budget. It's been scrapped, long ago.

Yes, even Paul Ryan repudiated the Paul Ryan budget, realizing, slowly but surely,

that his fevered ideologically extremist views were the political equivalent of a toxic waste dump.

 

[Stephanie]

$716 BILLION....

Oblama attacks Medicare, the ONLY person EVER to cut the program.

You should read a newspaper ocassionally before posting. Obama shifted that $. You know what Mitt/Ryan does for that same amt of $ from the same program?

ya gotta love it...only for Obama IS
robbed BILLIONS from Medicare now called, shifted
and flip flopping is called, EVOLVING

 

[NYcarbineer]

$716 BILLION....

Oblama attacks Medicare, the ONLY person EVER to cut the program.

You are quite the stupid little man, or should I say, what passes for a man in some circles.



PolitiFact | Romney: Obama 'only president' to cut Medicare

 

[Greenbeard]

With that logic, every pissy pants democrat can't run away from Obama fast enough, correct?......

It's not logic, it's empirical observation: the Ryan budget has become politically toxic in downticket races. Those Republicans who aren't on record as voting for it are actively campaigning against it, those that did vote for it are hoping Romney-Ryan will shut up about Medicare and maybe the issue will go away, and the House leadership isn't saying whether they'll try to pass it for a third time if they keep the chamber.

Most voters don't actually want to end Medicare.