It’s past time to go Nuclear

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    A few points of reference.

    Since the dawn of commercial nuclear power in the U.S. In 1953, there has not been a single radiation - related death. Not a single case of cancer. Not even a serious case of radiation sickness. Not one.

    What is erroneously referred to as "nuclear waste" and gives greenies nightmares is actually spent fuel, which can be reprocessed and used again, essentially forever. The decision not to use this proven technology was political.

    Small modular reactors are proven technology, but have not been proven commercially yet, but contracts have been awarded, and it's just a question of a year or two.

    Permitting the plants in Georgia and South carolina, if done expeditiously would have taken in the neighborhood of 15 years. The N R C recently modernized the process, expediting the operating permit process, and "shortening" the time frame to about ten years. (Have you ever seen what happens to a construction budget with years of delays, and late design changes to satisfy bureaucratic whims?)

    The advent of massive amounts of cheap natural gas has killed Nuke, from an economic standpoint. But if zero-discharge, clean power is the objective, Nuke kicks ass. If we can "afford" $25B for a wall, we can surely subsidize nuclear power and scale back regulations to a rational level, which would dramatically reduce the cost.
     
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    The problem is government and the electorate. Even a knowledgeable politician will not touch this political third rail.
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    Because of tree huggers like you...





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    We have ponds with five times the amount of spent rods in them that they were designed for. You really think that is a safe situation? Nuclear is dirty, in that we are not taking proper care of the waste. Nuclear is also very spendy. And nuclear requires large amounts of water. Solar and wind have none of these disadvantages. And they are cheaper, by the kw produced, than coal, gas, or nuclear.
     
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    You are on the same page as some of the world's premier environmentalists. INCLUDING James Hansen. The GodFather of GWarming. It's obvious. Only reason we don't is rejection of science by the eco-nauts. Could tear down the dams and coal plants. Free the salmon, be energy independent for longer.

    It's just that the greens are MORE afraid of nuclear -- than they are of GWarming or pollution..
     
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    0.7 ounces of waste per household per year. You CANNOT beat that. And if the govt had kept their promise, that spent fuel would have a safe repository.. OR recycled and re-used like elsewhere in the world. We've been hijacked by greeny weenies that are afraid of their shadows. That's the issue...
     
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    I'm not sure about nuclear, at the moment neither solar energy nor wind energy can't be cheaper than nuclear energy because at least solar energy and wind do not work "around the clock" and you are forced to use traditional energy. And I have special doubts about wind power, based on the numerous news about the bankruptcy of "wind power stations".
     
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    Going nuclear has been very effective in the past.

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    With grid scale storage, wind and solar are 24/7.
     
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    Ok, just how big of a battery will we need? Which state will you sacrifice to this fantasy?

    Batteries Need to Get Big—Like, Enormous—for Solar Power to Shine

    Perhaps Jack saw something on the cart next to the beanstalk seeds.
     

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