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    As for Samuel .... glad you brought him up. Point about Samuel is .... HE WAS ALIVE AFTER "DEATH" .... Having been a Godly man, I'm sure he was comfortable and well treated in the after-life. Obviously, for the witch to have called Samuel up .... means God allowed her to successfully do that. No problem.
     
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    Joe says: The Catholic Church picked what books ended up in the bible, and which ones ended up as apocrypha

    Naturally an Atheist must contend the Bible was produced by ONLY MEN. As opposed to God inspiring the human authors.

    But let me play along with Joe for a moment:
    Revelation 17&18 describes a "Great Whore" connected to a "city of 7 hills".

    For centuries all commentators (including RC one) agreed the "city of 7 hills" referred to ROME.
    RC commentators contended the Great Whore was prePapal Rome.
    For centuries nonRC commentators have (as I do) contended the Great Whore of Rome was the Vatican.
    A main battle cry of the Reformation era Prots was that the Vatican was/is the Great Whore.

    If Roman Catholics put the Bible together,
    they were certainly quite careless when they included a description of a Great Whore
    that in the opinion of millions for centuries is clearly perfectly fulfilled by the Vatican.
     
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    Have you actually checked Rubio's voting record? I'm saying it's pretty good. I've been watching him because..suspected globalist ties, but I think he's voted in a way that would make his daddy proud.
     
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    Here's the thing... ACTS is a lot of stories made up decades after the fact. You know, mythology. And the Church 300 years later picked up THAT group of myths as opposed to the other groups of myths

    Category:Apocryphal Acts - Wikipedia

    No less than 18 Apocryphal Acts of the Apostles

    So how do we know that is the correct one? See the problem here, Buddy?

    if you are going to argue that the later church got it wrong in the 4th century, the problem is, every other Christian sect also is getting it wrong, because we don't know what fake Epistles, Gospels, Acts and Revelations SHOULD be the right ones.

    They picked out the ones that supported the political goal of making a Church the Empire could get behind, before it started splitting up into factions arguing about whether or not Jesus was made of wafers.
     
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    Um, yeah. Here's the thing, if the Bible were inspired by a perfect God, then why did they get so much stuff wrong.

    Let's take an obvious one... why can't Luke and Matthew agree on who Jesus' ancestors were, where his parents came from, or when he was born? Instead, they both come up with literary devices to get him into Bethlehem, both of which are kind of ridiculous and not supported by other historical sources.

    yes, yes, yes... 2000 years of Catholic thinkers got it wrong, and Jack Chick, a guy whose art was so bad no comic book company would hire him, got it right.
     
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    Why would God allow that when he already decreed, "Thou shall not suffer a witch to live?"

    (Again, that bit of stupidity in the bible condemned thousands of women to horrible deaths)

    But in this case, God was going to let a witch have power over Samuel's ghost or whatever (the bible makes no mention of where Sammy was hanging out) so he could rub salt in Saul's wounds?

    Come to think of it, why did God pick Saul to be King to start with, when the guy was such an incredible fuckup?
     
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    But what has he done to help? We have all three branches of government and we can't seem to get anything done. He and the rest of them are sitting on their hands. What has Marco done to support the President?
    Not a damn thing.
     
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    We have just begun to fight!
     
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    You are contending "the Church" (empowered by Rome in 380 AD) picked a "myth"
    and that particular "myth" revealed the Church (sans pope and cardinals and not HQ in Rome) was born on a day the "myth" calls the "day of Pentecost."
    "Day of Pentecost" being the day the disciples were empowered by the Holy Spirit.

    Basically you are contending the Roman "Church" made into "scripture" a "myth" that undercuts the RC claim to be the "original Church"

    Joe says: "if you are going to argue that the later church got it wrong in the 4th century, the problem is, every other Christian sect also is getting it wrong, "

    All along I've contended that the 4th century Roman "Church" "got it wrong"
    and indeed all the Christianish sects that came out of the Roman "Church" also got it wrong and have it wrong.

    So where were the real Christians of history ? They were among those labeled "heretics'



     
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    The "Real" Christians are the ones who love their neighbors, treat people the way they want to be treated, and take care of the poor. You know, Just like Jesus said.

    That eliminates any hateful shit balls like you who read Jack Chick and think. "Yeah, hating Catholics and Jews and Mormons! That's what Jesus was all about."

    Arguing over who was a heretic or the true church is pretty much as silly as this.

     

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